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Posted: 5/10/2008 11:33:43 PM | I've always had a rather bizarre amusement that the plural of thesis... theses... rhymes with feces.
I wouldn't fault anyone with putting their education or occupation on their profile... it is an opportunity for you to self-select. Some will be turned off and others turned on. | |
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Posted: 5/10/2008 11:49:27 PM | That's right, "here he goes again"
IMO, Colleges core your brain of common sense and decency, and bulldoze in a bunch of useless crap, while handing you an accredited diploma which you lovingly and painstakingly mount,frame,hang on a wall, and forget about while said diploma earns your salary for you for the rest of your life.
I'm not kidding when I say sh:t for brains; I used to deliver packages to two types of people,migrant workers and college grads. Migrant workers, with a third-grade spanish education at best, got their package every time within 5 minutes of me hitting town; guess which ones didn't have the brains to properly fill out a delivery order.Brag about your PHD all you want, I'm not impressed. Keep up with that. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 1:16:25 AM |
"Yes I have a Ph.d, so I'd like someone that can keep up with me" Thats a tad snooty if you ask me,
Ok, so you assume they are snobs and they assume you're a dummy.
You're both ***holes. Give peace a chance. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 5:46:07 AM | | Where are these Ph.d men? I have not read one profile which stated having a Ph.d and the only one I met from this site who did have a Ph.d did not have it on his profile. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 7:05:41 AM | Comparing yourself is a sign of low self esteem. You will always find someone to come up short. It's a very bad habit. It's not good for you and it's not good for the person you put on a pedastal to knock down.
I concur with a study conducted long ago that there are two types of the seven personalities which thrive well in schools or institutions while the other five struggle. There are different kinds of intelligence and different learning styles. Of course, book learners do well at school. I have seen the book worms at awe with the grease jockeys and vice versa. Theory is of little value without application. "Those gifted in spirit always meet with violent opposition from medicore minds" - Albert Einstein.
I believe your final statement in the OP is quite similiar to the same observation. It is on to something more important and on which all types can agree. Love and respect for yourself as well as for all others is much more important. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 9:46:51 AM | | Judge a person not by their title but by the smiles on their childrens faces. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 9:52:04 AM |
Judge a person not by their title but by the smiles on their childrens faces.
And if they have no kids?
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Posted: 5/11/2008 10:29:52 AM |
And if they have no kids?
Then I guess by whether their cat is purring or not. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 10:40:46 AM | ^^^Uhhhmmm.... I have no cats... or dogs... but, palmetto bugs that enter my home seem to be happy.
Does that make me a good person?
Ph.D. - Palmetto Harbouring Damsel
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Posted: 5/11/2008 10:43:14 AM | | Well, i think they will inherit the earth after we're gone so i guess developing a proper working relationship is in order. (actually Tardigrades can withstand more abuse than a roach....and theyre much cuter!) | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 11:40:31 AM | While there are those who don't brag about it, you will find your choices limited by not going through college. I still hear to this day from friends and people I work with how they refuse to date much less marry anyone who didn't go to college. As college education becomes more the norm and less about a choice financial or otherwise, it will only become more of a limiting factor.
Now of course there will be exceptions such as if you are successful and/or running your own company. If you are only getting by day to day though, expect it to be an uphill battle. At least that is my experience.
One note of interest is several of my friends are MDs and they never insist on people calling them Dr. At the same time the people they see who insist on being called DR, whether MD or otherwise, are usually the worst to deal with. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 3:47:38 PM | A lot of the comments have been right about having a Ph.D. I might get one, but I rather get married and have a family first. Ph.Ds take along time and are expensive, but they are getting easier and easier to get in a lot of fields. I am considering one in literature or the classics. Universities and colleges are making loads of money off these programs. They are making tons of money off MFAs too. If a person told me ten years ago he or she had a Ph.D, I would have been impressed, but not today. Unless it is a hard science or mathmatics. Ditto for Masters and MBAs
College educations are pretty mandatory for getting a decent job. How many good jobs do you see that do not require a BA or BS? If you're like me with an English degree, a Masters is almost a given to get a job. I have a minor in Art History so hire me at your own risk!
My last boyfriend was a professor and he was wonderful for me. We were on the same page on a lot of things. Too bad he didn't want children. I hope to snag another Ph.D, but I want an economist, I love economics and find then fascinating.
You are feeling insecure if it bothers you that someone posts their Ph.D on their profile. Unless that person never lets you forget they have a Ph.D., then that person is insecure. I had a spanking new professor who had a brand new Ph.D from Cal Berkeley and he never let his students forget it. He was a good professor, but he was insecure. He was also dyslexic and it was understable he was insecure about being a professor. Everyone has something they are insecure about.
Don't let it bother you unless you are involved with one. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 9:23:07 AM | I have a Ph.D. and it does show it on my profile, but I am not a snob, I do not care if the person I talk to has a degree or not, BUT I do not want to waste my time w/ idiots! If you can carry a conversation that is great! I am not going to talk about physics or anything, I just want someone that can have a nice conversation without the constant..." eeeh,...aaah...eeeh..."
Well got to go,
Sxy1 | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 10:43:26 AM | | Having a doctorate tends to be a social barrier. I don't mention my graduate degrees in my profile because I would not want someone with much less education to feel intimidated about talking to me. My mother never went to college and my father only completed the equivalent of 8th grade, although both of them are very smart. I grew up in a working class family and am comfortable with all sorts of people. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:53:02 PM | " I don't mention my graduate degrees in my profile because I would not want someone with much less education to feel intimidated about talking to me. "
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Not to pick on any one person, but THIS attitude--that someone would be "intimidated" by you having enough money to go to college, is a ridiculous statement. Show of hands: Is anyone out there "intimidated" by another's education? I know I am not--I work at the university, and there are plenty of highly-educated idiots here (most seem to be in charge  ). Just because you have the money, time and perseverance to get a PhD doesn't mean you are smarter--it means you are more dogged -- and prolly haven't had much of a life for those few years. I am extremely intelligent, but "only" have a couple of degrees. Because life is a better teacher than university profs. I can learn without others "teaching" me--I have the skills to read and comprehend, what more does anyone need?
I think the "value" of a college degree is diminished, anyway, now that pretty much ANYONE can go to college. It's no longer the creme of the crop, it's every middle class and upper kid in USA, and a lot if not most poorer kids, too.
Put your hands down now. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 1:02:13 PM | OP: I do believe one should be proud about one's accomplishments. However, if you come across as a "holy than thou" because you have "this" and have "that"....arghhhh...total turn-off!!!
I wouldn't let these people get to you. Remember, the world is comprised with all sorts of people.
I don't agree that holding degrees from XYZ universities makes you a "better" person, but it does afford you many oppties. Furthermore, there have been many who barely made it through high school and became quite successful enterpreneurs and such.
So everyone has their own story and successes, but we should maintain some sense of humility as no one gravitates towards arrogance.
Best,
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Posted: 7/8/2008 1:03:33 PM | High end education = knowledge, not intellect.
Consider it as an in depth training tool towards a career rather than a symbol of intellect.
So many people these days have misguided views on further education. I know many people who've only finished h/s yet are pretty smart. Intelligent people are everywhere no matter what title they hold. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 1:20:07 PM | I am not a Ph.d, but I do belong to Mensa. I have quit telling men about this, though, as it seems to be terribly intimidating. They will start prefacing sentences with, I know you will probably think this is dumb. I tend to feel the same way around someone with a Ph.d. But, it is also a social standing thing. I believe.
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Posted: 7/8/2008 1:56:20 PM | Having an Elmer Phud degree is something to be proud of, some people worked very hard for it. Some people have had parents pay their entire way and they got the ivy league family backing to keep them in school even through misbehavior and poor grades and the do finally finish. It's impossible to know which kind, though the former is the most common. It has been awhile since my two years at college, but I have only met two Phuds with any real intelligence outside the books they learned from.
Educated idiots who often couldn't hold a job worthy of their degrees.
The thing is, I sit down for an intelligent conversation with a Phud and I get all excited because I can pull out the nerd in me and turn her loose, and I find: SURPRISE! He just wants a booty call.
Dumazz. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 1:58:42 PM | | PHD candidate? If they are around 30 years old that to me is like saying "Hi, I'm Marcy and I've never held a job!" | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 2:12:02 PM | I agree that intimidated may not be the right word, but it can certainly be a barrier that reduces the likelihood that some people will talk to me. I grew up in a community and a family where many did not complete high school, and college for kids my community in the late 70s was not the norm. I suspect that plenty of people here would be less likely to contact me because of assumptions they may make about my approachability.
I worked my way through college and grad school.
" I don't mention my graduate degrees in my profile because I would not want someone with much less education to feel intimidated about talking to me. "
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Not to pick on any one person, but THIS attitude--that someone would be "intimidated" by you having enough money to go to college, is a ridiculous statement. Show of hands: Is anyone out there "intimidated" by another's education? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 2:19:04 AM |
That said, a doctoral degree is not a B.A. Someone with a doctorate has (with few exceptions) been in university for at least six years, earning his or her Master's, then a further two to twenty-thousand years getting that Ph.d. That person is an academic, scholarly type...it doesn't mean that he or she is a pedant or a know-it-all...but it means that he or she probably risks seeming that way. Bluntly, a person who has spent an unbelievable amount of time and money on her education is probably not going to be totally compatible with you; it's not because you're stupid, it's because your priorities are different and your experiences are different.
As someome who spent those two to twenty thousand years in school, I beg to differ on what you think those of us expect. I will say that I know a hell of a lot about a hell of a lot, but I can appreciate ANYONE who who has enough interest in ANYTHING to be an expert. Not all education is obtained in school and the ONLY reason to go to school is because school is where what you are interested in learning happens to be taught. If one is interested in becoming the world's best machinist, going to graduate school is probably not the best way to go about it. If have a great deal of respect for anyone who rises to the point of mastering what they do to the extent of being innovators. I can converse with anyone at any level and I love having someone teach me something I don't know. (In fact, I've become a very good machinist that way.) One does not need to spend his or her life in school to be completely fascinated by what they do. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 2:22:18 AM |
Not to pick on any one person, but THIS attitude--that someone would be "intimidated" by you having enough money to go to college, is a ridiculous statement. Show of hands: Is anyone out there "intimidated" by another's education?
I can tell you from personal experience that telling someone you do experimental nuclear physics will kill a conversation faster than you can believe. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 5:51:32 AM | "I have learned and read more on my own then I ever did in school".
(Some literacy and grammar, would be nice)
Dear Fish Out Of Water,
When I first read this I considered not replying to it at all, but I have decided that it ,in fact, did warrant a reply. I believe it is okay to boast about your education because it is a measure of competence and inner will to accomplish a great achievement. In fact, most people strive to find someone with the same educational background because the mind needs even more stimulation than the body-- I'd say.
Dropping out of high school in the ninth grade is the dumbest move you can make in your lifetime. Even your own government deems you unworthy to serve your country. How can you have a meaningful conversation with anyone without the very basic education. Without Literature, Life Science, Mathmatics, Physical Science, History, English, Writing, Economics, Psychology, Accounting, Law, Engineering, Chemistry, Physics, Finance,Marketing, or countless other educational avenues; you cannot and will not understand the topic of conversation of the masses.
This makes you socially inept-- a social dimwit- if you will. For example; In a year of big change for our country, politically, you are not able to make a decent decision on who you want to run your country, because you have no understanding of economics or marxism or socialism or communism or liberalism or capitalism. You are doomed as a follower, a lamb in the company of Wolves.
And to think it irritates you that other fish in these waters boast about their education!
Education beyond the high school level is not merely a measurement of your individual committment, but a measure of achievement, persistance, scholastic aptitude, and an unselfish willingness to share your knowledge with other eager minds.
Let them boast!
Furthermore, you need basic writing, science, reading and math skills to do many jobs today-- like Carpentry, Timber cruising, Mechanic work, Plumbing, HVAC, Welding, Farming, Ranching, and even keeping your checkbook.
I get irritated when I see people, like you, who complain about others that have pursued a lifetime goal. Here you sit in judgement of others- when you yourself have done nothing with your own life --- to date. What have you done little lamb?
For myself I plan to boast just for you................... I didn't have the opportunity to go to college early in life as I had to help my family on the farm/ranch. I did achieve many things while learning to farm and raise cattle- like Cattleman of the Year at age 25 in 1986; Master Welder in 1988; Land ownership in 1989; Purchased my first home in 1990 and Traveled to four Countries for horsemanship competitions over the years (Australia, England, France and Venezuela). I have driven a truck over the road, rodeoed in five countries, performed in a symphony, ridden a horse from Texas to Alberta, Canada, (twice), written a book, driven a Covered Wagon (with two Belgian Horses and an Australian Shepherd) across Missouri, Been a horse wrangler in the movies, volunteered my time in Missions in Haiti, traveled to Europe, South Africa, and OZ -------all before walking into a college learning environment.
I did, however, go back to school at age 34 and graduated with honors (magna cum laude) with a BS in Wildlife Science. I later went to Grad School and achieved a MS in Reproductive Physiology and graduated with honors (magna cum laude) with a 3.97 GPA. Currently, I am attending Med School and plan on specializing in Pediatrics.
Glad we had this chat--- enjoy! | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 6:29:54 AM | I don't think that having/obtaining a PhD is boastful. There are certain people who are boastful - with or without PhDs.
I am currently working towards a PhD, but it's not on my profile. And I also don't expect anyone I date to be as formally educated as I am. I'm not doing it because I think I'm better than anyone. I just really like school, and I really love what I am studying. Not everyone is the same, and I think that's great. I like talking about what I am studying, but I also like talking about a lot of other things. | |
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