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Posted: 5/14/2008 1:42:40 AM |
I laugh at some of these responses....
First off, prostitutes are safer than the majority of people engaged in sexual encounters because they are aware of the risks and use absolute protection. Unlike most of you that don't.
Secondly, it seems like some of you are extremely closeminded as well as ignorant and think that prostitution means sex..once again, slightly wrong.
If more people took care of their partners, there would be no need for a hooker.
Now, it is extremely rare to find a woman that doesnt "sell" it in one form or another...the wife that decides to put out for her hubby because it's the night before payday and she wants a new couch...the chick that decides to give her old man some head because she just has to have those new shoes...or the dude that gives his woman some face so he can get her off and she wont bug him when he wants to go to the game with his pals....the list goes on.
The only difference between a hooker and you is she is blatant about the price.
Also, there are many paid ladies that do not even engage in sex or else are limited in what they provide, ie: cuckolding, domination, strictly fellatio...once again, the list goes on.
One more thing, before you look down your nose at someone that provides a service that is sexual in nature..odds are, someone you know was sexually inappropriate with a young female and took away her value system about her body, thus making it easier for her to sell it. Also, more than likely, someone you know has sold it and paid for it and in your objections to it, you're merely perpetuating the myths and the stereotypes.
Don't be so quick to judge.
If you were a better companion, lover, communicator, you would be everything to your partner and thus eliminating the need for the occupation.
Spider I'm laughing at your post because I want to know where are your studies that show prostitutes have such low amounts of STD's compared to the rest of the population. I dont think I've heard a more ignorant statement in a long time.
You are thinking of the high end brothels; which most prostitutes are not a part of; that are regulated and they HAVE to be safe or they get closed down. Drug use is very high among prostitutes and HBO special series about prostitutes have followed them around for years and showed their EXTREMELY dangerous sexual behavior. Most prostitutes are NOT regulated and when you get desperate due to meth or other drug use, or other circumstances, you are young and you just dont think it will happen to you.
Look at all the young girls under 30 that think its cool to have unprotected sex with so many young guys even thought these guys screw anything that walks. Promiscuity is now in, and the STD rate among teens in the U.S. is now 25%, some 50-80% higher than most industrialized nations. But the good thing is we're very cool!
I know girls gone wild is so cool; I know being a prostitute; a high end one is oh so in; but I'm sorry; I'm not exposing myself to every guy this girl has had sexual contact with, along with all of their partners too. And I'm sorry, I've never had someone so classless as to sleep with me for me to give them something. I'm glad we dont live in the same world. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 3:45:45 AM | Get educated...you're describing 5% of the females involved in prostitution.
Glad to see you allow tv to influence you so easily as opposed to actually being global and looking at the real world.
Another thing, they're not called STD's anymore..not for a couple years..nice to see you haven't gone in to get tested recently. Leukemia is a disease, chlamydia is an infection.
Once again, educate yourself. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 4:12:06 AM | Hi Valla,
I think it could be possible ,if the prostitution was in the past.I have no problems with prostitution,if it is a life style choice,and both people involved are getting what they are both looking for. Sex for money.
Personally speaking,I could never go with a prostitute,or a married woman simply because I think too much of myself to share a woman,but that's just me,and I know a lot of people feel different. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 8:26:20 AM | | Jeff Foxworthy said it best. "Going to a house of prostitution looking for a wife is like buying a car from a rental company......Anything that has been driven that hard by that many people is not something you want to put your key into." | |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 10:17:29 AM | "Zian, did you read all the posts? I don't care if someone disagrees with me. It's more entertaining when they don't. Lol. "
Obviously you do care if you didn't you wouldn't take the time to respond and you wouldn't feel the need to be so defensive you would simply state your opinion and moved on. This is not the case.
"How many prostitutes do you know personally? Are you a pimp and know this from experience? There are probably prostitutes that do practice safety as much as possible in that line of work. That's good. But there are those that i hear about that don't. Some are drug addicts,etc. And it's very sad. I don't blame them for taking drugs so they can perform. I can imagine the type of johns they get. I'd be on drugs too. "
LOL a pimp? No... where I live prostitutes don't need pimps since 95% of them operate independently most of them make good money to. unless you've spoken to a sexworker what you're saying doesn't hold much weight I'm afraid. I know of two prostitutes personally one is retired from the bussiness and now works for a large advertising firm in Toronto. (She's in her fifties now she decided to leave and persue another line of work after her looks started fading) She's now married. The other only sees regulars and she to plans to leave the sex industry once she's finished her MBA. She even has a bf who is aware of what she does for a living. Both of these women never got one STI throughout their entire careers and they despise drugs and anyone who takes drugs. I would imagine the sex industry has a high turnover rate. There isn't much job security no pension plan no retirement plan and it can take it's toll both of these women both physically and emotionally. I admit it's not a glamourous job but then again neither is working in fast food. Is there an ugly side to the industry? yes there is. The prostitutes who take drugs and don't take care of their health. The ones you are refering to are usually streetwalkers and most honest johns want nothing to do with a streetwalker. The escorts the ones who operate out of luxary condos the ones who insist on using protection and don't do drugs they are the ones who get clients who aren't a risk we're talking powerful bussinessmen, doctors, lawyers etc. many of which are normal men some of them even good looking men.
"And your opinion is meaningless to me too. "
Right sure, you're posting for another reason is that right? That's okay, most women I encounter are usually poor liars anyway. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 11:28:06 AM | | Nope. Couldn't date one. Couldn't marry one. Legal or not legal. And the reason is simple, to me. When times get rough people tend to revert to something that they know how to do very well. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 1:58:24 PM | When times get rough people tend to revert to something that they know how to do very well.
they never stop seeing regular's..sort of like an overdraft at the bank we fall back on .. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 1:52:05 PM | Spider I'm laughing at your post because I want to know where are your studies that show prostitutes have such low amounts of STD's compared to the rest of the population. I dont think I've heard a more ignorant statement in a long time.
Perhaps because you made it up. What Spider said was:
First off, prostitutes are safer than the majority of people engaged in sexual encounters because they are aware of the risks and use absolute protection. Unlike most of you that don't.
I can back that statement from personal experience. Escorts generally insist on using condoms. I've had civilians get pissed off when I've insisted on using condoms. Many civilians have the notion that they would never sleep with the type of guy who would have an std.
You are thinking of the high end brothels; which most prostitutes are not a part of; that are regulated and they HAVE to be safe or they get closed down.
Brothels are not ``high end.'' I've paid 2k/night for independents and that is only on the high side of average for a reputable independent. Most escorts don't work in regulated brothels because (1) most escorts don't live in Nevada, (2) working in a brothel is not coducive to choosing one's clientele.
Drug use is very high among prostitutes and HBO special series about prostitutes have followed them around for years and showed their EXTREMELY dangerous sexual behavior.
I guess if it was on HBO, it must be true? You are talking about drug addicts who resort to prostitution to pay for a drug habit, not the average run of the mill escort. Do you really think a drug addict could command a rate of 1500.00 to several thousand a night (which is a typical rate, not ``high end'')?
Most prostitutes are NOT regulated and when you get desperate due to meth or other drug use, or other circumstances, you are young and you just dont think it will happen to you.
Most are not regulated because (1) as mentioned before, most don't live in Nevada, (2) being regulated means having one's occupation as prostitute entered into public records, (3) reputable escorts get tested regularly without government intervention.
Look at all the young girls under 30 that think its cool to have unprotected sex with so many young guys even thought these guys screw anything that walks.
Doesn't that contradict your argument that prostitutes are less safe? Prostitutes certainly don't think it's cool to have unprotected sex and in general won't even see a guy under 30. If you ask for unprotected sex from a prostitute, you are most likely to get thrown out and have your name circulated as someone to avoid.
And I'm sorry, I've never had someone so classless as to sleep with me for me to give them something.
So, when you list your occupation on your profile, do you think that it helps you to find a date? If so, then you're just deferring the financial arrangement and paying a higher price.
I'm glad we dont live in the same world.
I agree. I've spent my life trying to overcome my preconceptions and not stereotype people with caricatures of who they really are. I've met a lot of interesting and wonderful people because of it. I've had a lot of experiences most people will never have because most people can't see past the caricatures they've invented to denigrate those who are different from themselves. The last thing I want to do is go back to a world of preconceptions and stereotypes. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 5:32:48 PM | I dated a prostitute for a few months and we had a good time. She was very careful about condoms and always got checked. Being witness to that world was strange, it turned out that her and friends were really some pretty grand people.
I was especially sensitive towards this girl because obviously I wasn't pushing for sex because she had been working. She told me the sex with me was different and was more loving and I sensed this, I knew she was warm in my arms, she'd even cry sometimes.
The difference sexually between us was glaring. I am a seducer, I work towards it slowly, whereas she attacked when the time was right, LOL. If I was talking brilliantly or showing off in some way, she'd go for my zipper. She once tried to do this in a room full of people but I refused, she had a crazy past and was no stranger to public sex, but I'm a bit more reserved.
She was nice, but damaged. She had been sexually abused. And she was all about the money. That's the only reason she did it. She made 5 grand a week, or could, if she worked hard enough, and was all about make-up, and hair, and clothes, and partying and furniture and what she considered "good" art LOL. I'd say, let's go fishing, let's travel, learn something, and she wasn't really into that side of life. Very business-minded. Usually I get some kind of grip on my partners, but I couldn't with her. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 6:32:51 PM | when looking up some stats last night i found that a whopping 10% of the sexual outlet of unmarried men involved prostitutes and only 1.7% for married men.
i guess there's lots of prostitutes out there... and men who want the easy fix for a high price. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 10:18:25 PM | We should just make prostitution legal.....................wait a minute, that would add $20-$30 tax on to the price. Never mind. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 10:43:48 PM | | Hey honey, how was your day at work? ... | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 11:11:06 PM | Look like dating and marrying the prostitude are the cheapest way to have this hard worker one as a life partner | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 2:27:08 PM | "It must be true cuz it was on TV!" " It must be true cuz someone wrote about it on da Internets!" I can only shake my head at people who formulate their views and beliefs on suspect sources.
I'm in 100% agreement with everything abelien stated. I personally know girls who escort. While I wouldn't date one who *does*, I wouldn't hesitate to date on who *did*. Many of them did not have sordid pasts that led them into it and are just doing it as a means to pay for school or other bills. They're in it for a short time and never return.
After reading through the entire thread, it struck me - this is very similar to another scenario - would you date someone with a disability? Many (most?) would say no, just based on their preconceptions, as alluded to above. I won't expound on that as there are other threads on it. However, I will leave you with this:
"Everyone has some kind of disability, it's just that some kinds are more visible than others." Guess who told me that? An escort. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 2:32:54 PM | i think i'll change my profile to : " willing to help struggling young women get through college".
this way i can get some prime stuff that ordinarily only want to be with the football players. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 9:41:07 AM | Legalized prostitution?
If looked like MS Dupre, despite my proffession you might have a relationship with me? Or not?
Just because I look like a Barbie doll ....I can get away with things an ugly girl cannot?
Will it be a new commodity on the Stock Market?
Sales tax in many states is 6 to 7 percent
Unless in Ohio we have sin tax on alcohol and cigarettes
Advertising said commodity?
Will it be as common as children's cereal commercials?
Or targeted to wrong age market? Like the cartoon Camel cigarette commerical?
Ms Dupre as a spokes model?
Doesnt media have enough examples for young girls learn from?
How to look and act like a woman thru the media?
How did plastic surgery become so popular? Or for some women necessary to live?
Dare not say yet another reality show? Good God I hope not.
Buy a book Ms Dupre writes? Or for that matter OJ Simpson? Nothing really common in both examples except..
I would not buy into something that further financially supports their choices in life.
Not to judge anyone else.
I know a 15 year old girl and it shocks me what she thinks about males in general and sex. I cannot believe her parents are teaching her these values.
She wants to be a grade school teacher. I advised her to rethink her myspace page and to maybe present herself differently to others. Once release thru the internet ,it cannot be taken back . Just the same as words or actions.
Now what if she decides to fund her college thru prostitution.
Or if she ended up teaching the young children of the clients she used to entertain?
Can anyone say Aukward? What in the world are we teaching our Children?
Also picking up women . prostitutes from another country?
Bring them the USA and treat them like you the women are treated here and feed them the American diet and what will you get? How much is peronsal choice and how much is product of the enviroment? Also think goodness not all men think as he does.
Legalize prostitution?
What would that have done to Sptizer's career? Did he not earn his living and political status breaking up the very same sex rings he become a part of?
It is like telling our children "Do as I say and not as I do" ?
No wonder children as soo confused as to right and wrong here
no more 10 commandements or laws .. are they not inplace to protect people?
Especially children that are too young to choose for themselves? | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 3:33:10 PM | | Most prostitutes are ultra-hygenic because their body is their product for sale and also because they have to be so careful about disease. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 7:30:29 PM | I have learned this from my doctor and I also donate blood.
When I advised I was beginging to date and wanted info about getting std tested
Best thing to do is get tested and then get tested another 6 months after
Especially for things like Aids.
Best way to keep for getting std is to Abstain.. 2nd is managoumous relationship
If you are with multi partners you are exposed to everyone that you partner has also been exposed to
If I have sex with someone 5/1/08 and get tested 5/2/08.. If I had been infected on 5/1/08 .. chances are it will not show on the test on 5/2/08
So how can a Prostitute guarantee that a condom doesnt fail or guarantee she is clean ?
How often do they test? Do they abstain from sex long to guarantee their health and results from their test? | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 10:26:16 PM | | It wouldn't bother me in the least! I am confident in myself. If I were to marry I would be confident in them. It isn't like a bar of soap that, the more you use it, it disappears. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 10:41:10 PM |
Best way to keep for getting std is to Abstain.. 2nd is managoumous relationship
If you are with multi partners you are exposed to everyone that you partner has also been exposed to
If you are counting on monogamy to keep you safe, then you are doing something an escort would never do - count on a partner to not be infected. An escort is going to assume a client has unprotected sex with others and act accordingly to protect herself. Since the majority of men who visit escorts are married, for the most part, those men's wives mistakenly think they have a monogamous relationship with their husbands.
If I have sex with someone 5/1/08 and get tested 5/2/08.. If I had been infected on 5/1/08 .. chances are it will not show on the test on 5/2/08
If you are just now learning this, I rest my case regarding what I said about escorts generally being better informed.
So how can a Prostitute guarantee that a condom doesnt fail or guarantee she is clean ?
How can anyone else do that? (This is a trick question.)
How often do they test?
The ones I've known personally (but not all of them necessarily intimately), get tested every one to two months. And yourself?
Do they abstain from sex long to guarantee their health and results from their test?
Is that a rhetorical question or are you really asking? | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 10:50:59 PM |
then again i wouldnt mine being one, think of all the women paying me for sex , tho i wouldnt expect any of the punters asking me to marry them.......the punters would all be married women any way.......................lol
The irony in this thread is that if there was a job opening for a man to get paid $300.00/hr to have sex with women, the line of applicants would stretch for miles and few if any of those applicants would expect working a few years to come back and haunt them. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 3:11:16 AM | This all comes back to the morality issue, what parts of a body are 'allowed' to touch what parts of another person's body. I go to get my hair washed, I get their hands going through my hair, massaging my scalp. But I can't go and get my d!ck washed and have someone massaging my d!ck. All made up morality, and to each person their own. I don't have anything against prostitutes. And yes, I could marry one much more easily than I could marry a manager who screws their employees out of hard earned money and benefits. Prostitutes bring joy and pleasure, something not a lot of people can say about their job. The people who 'suffer' and say their feelings are hurt because of the prostitute's job, well, they can all just go screw themselves. Mind your own business. And if your spouse or lover is 'stepping out' on you with a prostitute (or anyone else, for that matter), then it's pretty apparent that you aren't taking care of business at home. No one who's sexually exhausted is going to be out screwing around.
It's all about 'owning' the rights to another person. Traditional women like to 'own' all the rights to the man they're involved with; they barter sex for his companionship, love and usually some degree of financial support, and often make it difficult for him to 'earn' her sexual 'rewards'. She becomes threatened when he can obtain his sexual gratification elsewhere without putting in all the time and effort, not to mention the 'commitment' that she demands of him. And heaven forbid he ever gets any of that sexual gratification elsewhere, even once. She'll divorce him and take every cent she can get. Now, THAT's prostitution (maybe that's why it's called the oldest profession).
A smart man can 'sell' an employer his knowledge and ideas. A 'strong' man can sell his labor. A 'technically skilled' man (say, a machinist or other tradesman) can sell his skills for an excellent price. Why can't a 'sexy' woman sell the enjoyment of her beauty and sexual skills?
A toast to prostitutes. At least they're doing honest work for honest pay, and at the end, everyone involved went into it willingly, and is happy with the result. If I knew any, I'd be proud to call them my friends. Cheers! | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 3:38:43 AM | I couldnt be involved with someone like that ... No way ...  | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 3:46:10 AM | | My ex is with one doesn't seem to bother him. | |
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