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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 11:54:05 AM | Here's is my take on your question:
1) Women who seek "Godly" men probably do so due to the belief that if a man loves God then he will be able to love his woman with the love that emanates from God.
2) I doubt they look for the super religious as there is a difference between being religious and having a relationship with the Creator. As far as being a "wildchild" that sounds like an opinion.
3)Don't know and no love lost there.
4)It has a lot to do with compatibility. Our faith or lack of faith help frame our beliefs and perceptions the same as life experiences, cultural background etc. It's not impossible just more difficult to have relationships when certain areas are out of harmony.
We are human...we are always engaged in some sort of conflict, whether it be conflict of interest or whatever...it is just the nature of how we live. We don't always see clearly and hindsight is alway 20/20. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 12:04:55 PM | I'm spiritual but really put off by the whole term "god-fearing"...Fear has no place in relationships, Godly or otherwise, so this is an immediate turn-off. I purposely tried engaging a woman on here once who made "Must Fear God" a stipulation of her relationships, and ya know what? She was very shallow and money-oriented.
To the point, I think people put the whole God issue at front and center because they aren't meeting people in the traditional places they hang out, because let's face it, alot of people at church are married and quite traditional. Despite the rep, it's an awful place to meet single people. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 12:18:27 PM | You just can not win when you ask questions about God. Too many viewpoints on who God is, too many ideas on how to worship this entity, etc., etc. Most claim they have the right god, and know the right way to worship. Some truly believe this. Others are hypocrites using religion to gain what they want and need from it.
I researched so-called "Christianity" ( I was raised in one of those many Christian ways) and found Christianity is shot so full of holes by deletions of the "Scriptures", and so many interpretations, and it has been infiltrated completely with "paganism, that the whole idea of any TRUE Christian, based on TRUTH just doesn't exist anymore. And all these mixed up beliefs in this world, have people hating one another and killing over such beliefs. Now that is just plain STUPID! So I decided I will be agnostic, and until anyone can tell me some facts to chance my mind on the whole process, I will stay so. My mind is always open to hearing new thoughts. But it will take a lot to change my mind, since it took a lot to change it to where it is now.
I have more to say on the topic, but it would be totally wasted here.
So OP, pick careful and do what you need to do for YOU! It really doesn't matter one bit what others think or how they worship, of who or what they worship, or any of their beliefs. What truly matters is who you are, and if you like YOU. If you do, then find someone who is willing to love you for who you are, and someone you are willing to love for what they are. Have a happy life.
In the end we all die. FACT. Other than that, there are no FACTS, but beliefs. All MY opinion of course! 
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 12:24:03 PM | Hi Hopeful: I will attempt to answer your question from my experience in relationships with and without God. Believe me, the relationships with God are infinitely better when you know God's plan for your life and He leads you to the partner He has picked out for you. The Bible is very specific (Ephesians and other books) about the roles each play in a Godly love between a man and a woman. I don't blame young women who are allowing the Lord to lead them to want a God based marriage. Another passage in the Bible states that a Christian is not to be yolked to a non-believer because of the strife it will cause in the union. We must be on the same page with our values for the union to have a chance of surviving with God's guidance.
I pray that this will help you understand where we are coming from.
Blessings
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 12:48:40 PM | Well there's no way in "hell" (huuhuhuhh) that I'm reading this entire thread.
I just wanted to chime in and say that if a person lists a religion, I don't automatically exclude them. I personally feel agnostic, with a lot of skepticism towards organized religion. If a woman says she puts God high up on her list, or she regularly goes to church, I know that at that point, they've lost their open mindedness and will either only date people with faith, or they'll try to 'convince' you to have faith... Either way, I'm going to avoid the trouble.
As far as I'm concerned, there isn't much of a difference between the Religious and the atheist/agnostics. Our values determine how we're going to live our lives. Now whether you say "I did it because it was the right thing to do", or "I did it because it was God's will"... either way, you did it because you thought it was right.
Now, with that said, I feel people who filter people from their lives merely because of religion are extremely prejudiced and hard headed. We could be a perfect match except for our faith, and other beliefs in the unknown. Personally I feel that this could become a great discussion point and learning experience for both parties, but some people just don't care about you or your beliefs and don't care to ever know/change/learn.
Plus... I'm not going to church, unless it's a really social church with a very relax worshipping policy. So if God is a bit part of a girl's life, and she goes to church all the time, then I don't think I would be capable of that. My mind is way too open and hence closed to people trying to lock me off from the rest of the world. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 12:56:34 PM | Listen, and when I say LISTEN I really mean HEAR because there is a difference in listening to something, letting it go in one ear out the other and HEARING, which means when you really HEAR something even if you don't agree right away you let the words be seeds in your thinking and further direction in life to where you really start to understand who and what you are.
Not very many people can say they know who they are, what they want and what direction their life is headed.
You have two choices in life. One sure have some fun but realize to over do it, have no morals, no cares, respect for yourself etc does have some serious consequences later in life! You can't party forever, we all grow older, you can't be careless when dealing with serious relationships as though you are always going to find another etc. One day reality hits! And it hits hard!
That is why you find and trust me I have COUNSELED MANY friends about this who I've known since my teens and have seen their lives unfold for the worse in the end. Yes, even people I would party with back then and I feel so sad for them and all I hear them say to me is, IF I could do it ALL over again.....
Get ready for some hard reality! Ready? I'll answer your question in more ways then one and hopefully it's gonna sink in. One person I know VERY attractive girl, grew up with her has misued herself for so long with the let anything go attitude, live life have fun attitude and she had fun! Until she realized damn! These are her words and I DO gladly qoute....."I'm 34 still attractive, banging body and have no one! I realized when I thought about how many men I've slept with either for one night or thinking it was going to lead to something, and when I sat down to think about it for the first time I could not believe the NUMBER! All, my friends are now married, kids, sure they have problems like any other relationship but they got something I've never had, that stability knowing I've got someone for life, not having to run around anymore, we can be as freaky as we want with eachother in the bedroom, without being desperate for a quick hook up, night out at the bar, club whatever....we can go places etc TOGETHER... "
Many years talking to her about changing how she represents I was met with, "I can have fun!" Nothing wrong with it! Blah, blah, blah and I'm sure when most have been confronted with really what it takes to get their act together they say the same thing and more! Well, truth is it catching up so to hear her years later cave in and finally get it is a valid point! It will happen to ALL. Now she has a reputation of being used goods, every bar or club she goes to everyone knows her and it's like a fashion show hey! Look who's here whoa let the party start...why? Because people know what they can get from her and she was enjoying it to when she realized how used up she got! Same for you guy's out there.
Which is why you are finding MORE and MORE women talking about God/sprituality!ANd it's a VERY GOOD thing because it keeps someone accountable and straight with themself-true. Why? Because if you sat down and researched enough connected to it, means someone who is grounded, not into doing all the wrongs thing's, living careless etc...Most think because you have faith the party ends....Um, reality check your life is saved and basically the party to celebrate a LONG LIFE begins....
Waiting to have sex is part of that faith...Oh, sorry for those who want their life to end pretty quick...lol And say where's the fun in that? A women who adds such a post is seeking SUBSTANCE! How they dress, I couldn't say haven't seen such posts. However how they live is the truth in what they say. Also, most guys who are looking to get it on and SWAER they want something serious get turned off NOT because someone is forcing their belief on them, but because THEY know to believe that way means they would have to change some way's they been accustome to and look at themself and where they are headed in life.So, yeah it's usually people who want to continue doing whatever whenever who don't like this.
Ok, let's get back to the sex, partying, anything fun and goes right? Well, meet Collette had the same mind set as the girl I mentioned above who say's now she will never have a husband or know what it's like to be a mother etc....She's always alone, except for when she goes to a bar and a club but all of a sudden that's not even working for her anymore as she feels like a fixture there because it's done so much to try and feel good!
Collette is HIV positive, never thought it would happen. Now she suffers because hearing someone say they are clean is enough, dating someone for years who is not committing was enough...Hmmm? No, committment anything goes, no test taking which by law should be done before marriage all that was skipped! And in one night of lust her long time partner destroyed the lenght of time they have here.
The second choice is have fun, knowing what you want, NOT compromising, not disrespecting yourself with random hook ups/flings, swearing this time it IS real when you don't know where you are yet or have any peace where you are with your self at all, and worse off who you end up with because you want to rush etc. Realizing while you may not be perfect it doesn't mean you have to go out get wasted, drugged up whatever the opposite lifestyle is....from having a good lifestyle where you have healthy fun, relationships and plenty of time to enjoy it all!
So, for all the bashing and the women who are doing it right stick to it! Don't compromise! And for the men out there who feel threatened by a gilr like that, who may truly be seeking something deeper and awesome how much are you willing to give up for something that good? Ask yourself that. Because no self-respecting women is going to be with anyone less. And even though most you men don't want to confess it and EASY girl is not someone you want to or end up marrying so just let it go already!
And if not then girls who have some sense will make it clear from the start where they stand and if that scares the wrong one's away then, heck....mission accomplished!\
TOO LIFE AND LIVING IT TO THE FULLEST, NO MORE NO LESS! | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 1:07:42 PM | Miriam... that's what's called a stereotype. I knew a girl who went to church, her father was a minister, yet she slept around on her fiance, and even attempted to get a male mistress!
I've never been religious a day in my life, yet I've always head myself accountable for every move I make. In fact, now that I think about it, many of the big partiers I've hung out with have been religious.
On the other end of the stick, I know a lot of great guys who aren't religious, who have all been with the same girl for years , are young, married (or engaged), and are having a happy life.
The problem is that religion teaches people that you need to be religious to be good. And the religious wonder why they have a bad rap! Ever hear people ****ing about the closed mindedness of an agnostic person? (I count atheism as the anti-religion, but as a set faith, which can be just as bad) | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 1:11:00 PM | To add to that last post, your friend was a skank. I don't see how that story added to the conversation about women that require the love of God. She made mistakes, Religion or not. Her values werent there.... this has nothing to do with faith.
Organized religion tells you what values/morals to have and tells you the reason for it. Many people are fully capable of learning those values themselves, and have a much better understanding of the importance of those values. They've experienced the mistakes. Some religious people haven't experienced anything! | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 2:11:49 PM | | Hopeful 73 ...You asked why women stated it and several have answered you. There have been some on here that stated that they do not want religion shoved down their throats...okay, I can understand that, but at the same time, we really do not want their beliefs shoved down our throats and THAT is why we look for only Christian men. If someone asks you a question, we should feel free to answer without being attacked. Who wants an argument to go on in their home every day of their life? | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 2:19:02 PM | People, Christians and non-Christians alike are filled with sin. The reason anyone points a finger at another is people in general hold others to a standard of perfection while allowing themselves plenty of lee way to act any way they want. It's called "justification". People believe those that believe like them are right, while those that don't, aren't. That's called judgment.
For me, I would love to find a godly woman. I saw one poster on here say she takes her faith seriously yet not one mention of her faith or relationship on her profile. I don't say that in judgment but in observation.
Christianity isn't about beating others over the head with a Bible. It's about the relationship I have with God thru Christ. That relationship is very tangible. It's not a mental image or wishful thinking. God is very much a living God, not something imaginary that came and went. If you don't see Him around you, that's ok. I didn't either. It's a matter of our hearts. We're not the great people we think we are. That's called pride.
The Bible is not to make you feel terrible, it's His love letter to us. It's about relationships. Want to know where your beliefs are messed up and why? It's in His word. Want to know what real truth looks like? It's in His word. Want to know what real love looks like? It's in His word.
May all of you enjoy one another's fellowship on this board in peace and being peacemakers.
Blessings,
John | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 2:41:46 PM | Believe me, the relationships with God are infinitely better when you know God's plan for your life and He leads you to the partner He has picked out for you.
No disrespect intended. I have nothing against anyones own belief but it is this kind of mindset that I just don`t get...... "Gods plan"..... and how he "leads you" ........... how he "picks one out" for you....... which comes down to giving the almighty credit when something goes well but not holding the same almighty responsible when things go bad... be it relationships, priests molesting little boys, innocent kids starving to death in 3rd world countries....... take your pick. You can`t have it both ways. Either he is responsible for everything or he is responsible for nothing at all. Cant` just be responsible for all the good stuff and get cut slack for all the bad stuff.
If he has the power to "lead" you and to "pick" one out for you..................what the hell was he doing when Father Sicko was fondling lil Johnny ? Couldn`t he have "led" Father Sicko to walk in front of a bus that was doing 50 mph. Couldn`t he have "led" lil Johnny to go to another church.
Yea yea, I know........ he "led" that nice woman Mary from the congregation to "meet" wonderful William from the same congregation to have a truly wonderful marriage. It was, after all, Gods "plan" for them....... but for lil Johnny.... tough break kid..... God obviously had other "plans" for you.......
Denial is such a powerful force to reckon with........ and it sure ain`t a river in Eygpt.
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 2:44:48 PM |
So as a non-religious person my questions are these:
1) Whats up with the incresing number of females seeking "Godly" men lately?
2) Why are you looking for someone who's super religious but at the same time showing the world what a wildchild you are?
3) How many men see the mention of God in a profile and immediately move on, as I do?
4) Why is it so important to anyone of any faith that someone theyre dating believes along the same lines as you so strictly?
here are my answers....
1 - i'm not seeking godly men but if he goes to church that's fine just don't expect me to go.
2 - i'm not a wildchild, i'm down to earth and that's what i'm hoping to find as well...someone down to earth.
3 - i'm not a man but once i see in men's profiles...."must be a god fearing woman" then i immediately push the back arrow button to get off of his page.....sorry, no can do!
4 - methodist, lutheren, catholic, or what have you.....there really isn't much of a difference since everyone preaches to the same god but only under a different name. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 3:27:43 PM | WOW!!! Can everyone just take a deep breath here? 
Looooooooooong Inhalation............
Looooooooooong Exhalation...........
repeat as often as needed until you are relaxed
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Sending out a HUUUUUUUUUUGE amount of love to all of you on this forum...its soooooooooo needed.....gonna be praying tonight for many of you....it cant be fun to be so full of hate and anger like that and the sad thing is that life doesnt have to be lived like that....
You are all valuable, gifted humans who have the incredible gift of LIFE and the ability to LOVE eachother....also the ability to communicate our thoughts in an insightful and respectful tone without going over the edge and being hurtful to others, which is the lamest trick in debate, as some of you already know.... SO, what the heck are we doing to one another on here?????? Lot Lizard, love to you, honey...
I also forgive: 4dutyandhumanity, sweetness one (think you're the only one who was confused by my post, girl)...microchip....and anyone else I didnt remember....
Love, love love to all of you....the kind of love that can only come from above...
Christ's love.....big enough to cover all of you and all of our sins, should you choose to accept it....
I think we need to step back and simply realize there are a TON of different views about spiritual beliefs and repsect that everyone has the RIGHT to believe in how they choose.....they have the RIGHT to advertise for what they want in their profile...why are we even questioning this?
OP, I still dont get why you posted this thread...several have responded that you should just move on if somone it too "zealous" for you....did this thread even need to be started? Also curious why was it gender biased against women? Why not gender neutral?
However, I am soooooo delighted to see there are so many attractive, wonderful, CHRISTIAN men loooking for the same in a woman and posting or writing me abot it.......perhaps that was one good thing that came out of this...
Also, thank you for the ton of supportive emails that were sent to me!!!....(ok another great thing sent from this thread.... :I will respond by end of this weekend, just have to get off this computer now !!!!LOL...
Its a GORGEOUS day outside and its time for beach volleyball!!!!! (Well be down on Ave A in South Redondo, if any locals wanna drop by (its COED).....well start in about 1/2 hour) please bring some water or whatever you like to drink....we'll have lots of cut fruit....
Let's see.....which bikini shall I wear????  
here's a hug for each of you that want one:
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Go and love one another!!!!
Peace, Blessings,
SurfDancer | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 3:52:53 PM | History? The Founding of the Nation? Everyone's Personal Preachings?! AAARRRRGGHHHH!!!!!
No offense, people, but WTF does this have to do with my original post?! If you want to debate that crap then go to the Religion Forums. Im not interested in these long-ass posts and I doubt most people are reading any of it either.
To those who have managed to answer on-topic...THANK YOU!!! At least someone out there is reading before they type a novel!! | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 3:59:09 PM | Maybe when they meet the right guy the say," Oh God,OH God, OH GOd, OH GOD, JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...........
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 4:49:21 PM | | Are you people in the US for real?? I read through this, then i looked through some profiles, and it is true - women and men do that! Shouldnt you Hopeful try some European women? I mean, even the distance and the hassle of relocating would be better than putting up with with a third party in a relationship :). | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 5:25:25 PM | intenselyfond:
You know, some of the best responses Ive seen, as well as some of the best profiles, have been from women across the pond. (A few from Canada too.) Im beginning to think about getting a Passport. Maybe Id have better luck!! | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 6:50:20 PM | Warmth and Passion....your post 5/17/2008 at 4:52a.m.....page 11....that was one of the most wonderfully written pieces in here..You write well.
The younger people on here have no idea what is being lost in this country. Like you said...they have been taught for years by the huminist.
You are right....the very system..that was set up by Christians is the very system that allows them their freedom.. If only they could see that before its too late.
No country with weird Gods is very successful...never have they ever been. Only Christ based countries.
Someone show me an athiestic nation....or a nation with a different religion that there is equality and safety like there is here in America.
We have been protecte by Our Lord and Savior.
Hark....listen.....the time is coming....probably sooner than we all think. The world can not keep going the way it is and at this pace. . It just cant. | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/17/2008 7:09:46 PM | Very good HootnHoller:
Bottom line is this.....no matter what.....when this nation had God in schools....and people went to church every week......It was a better nation.
television...anyone could watch anyshow with out offense.....billboards were clean instead of some woman acting like shes getting all horney just eating a hamburger.. Disgusting to me. Kids are seeing this...Our little girls know as much as prostitutes by the time they are 18.
We didnt have 3rd generation welfare families using drugs ....children falling into that lifestyle.......
rampant drug use that now affects even our most educated peoples
dishonesty is rampant....manys bottom line is the almighty dollar instead of helping his neighbor....like our jobs shipped overseas.....buying foreign made items....boycott those items.
We didnt have rampant pornography.... more tittie bars. than ever....filth shops everywhere etc.
regarding porno....people have even lost what Lovemaking is. That kind of sex has nothing to do with love. Not even one thing at all. Its dangerous. Like Geoffry Dahlmer said...."When you took God out...then dont I get to make my own rules? Why not.." There are many many Dalhmers out there.....fueled by the lack of Godly rules and principles.
We didnt have to worry about where our children were playing cause back then...it was rare that children were abducted....people controlled theirselves.
We didnt have all this horrible divorce
We didnt have mothers and fathers dressed like they were 20 again...dating...more worried about dating instead of taking care of their children...
You just cant tell me things are better. Our wrongs that we did have , many now have been turned around.
To try and deny these things is dangerous. Reality is reality. Things now that they have taken God out of everything is definately ruining this nation.. When it falls...it will be too late...cause once despots take over...its almost imposible to get back.. Ask the Somalians....ask the Chinese....ask the people of Communism...ask the Sudanese people. Look around you. People...we are throwing away our beautiful nation...our future is to live in fear and poverty. When people are in power that answer to their own whims... instead of Godly rules and principles and morals. Things that are good for all people. we are in trouble. This is what is coming to America....poverty, hungar, no love...because we have thrown God out....he is no longer willing to protect us. He gave us free will. We kicked him out of our schools and then wonder why kids are shooting each other. So very sad.
Its evident here that there are many educated in the humist era. Is there hope? I laugh when I hear about how mean the Christians are. If we express our opion...were mean...cause we do not believe in other Gods. Isnt that our right? Christians do alot of good in this world. ....Its just that the media never talks about that so huminist people have a distorted view of Christians. What else is new. LOL
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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:50:01 PM | It's not a surprise to me that we have "religious" people in this society who see themselves as strongly religious but aren't really setting any kind of exemplary standards for society to follow, hence the images of religous people partying at the bar, and showing off sexiness as if advertising one's body is a way to allure the attention of other God loving males. Religion has people on both ends of the spectrum : people you would love to be around, and people you would never want to be around.
Ofcourse everyone has a right to choose who they date, but what I don't agree with is restricting the people you date or marry by religion. The Bible does not demand that Christians only marry Christians, and so when a believer demands this of themselves, they are imposing a non-Christian belief on themselves. Christian teachings come from Christ alone. Not to say they don't have good reason to do it; I'm just pointing out that Christ himself saw no need in making the restriction.
As for putting God first in one's life, what does "God" mean? If God is only an abstract concept then the result of putting him first will reap only abstract results. But considering God is in everything, for example in creation as a whole, then when we put our family first, we are infact putting God first. Everyone has the right to interpret God for themselves, so if putting God first to you means loving your partner, no one has the right to tell you that you have put God second, because to you, your relationship is part of God. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 10:10:30 PM | MusicianFriend,
I got into this because of the false assertions of historical fact in one of your prior posts. I had already answered the OP.
The only comment I can make to your non-rebuttal is res ipsa loquitor, the thing speaks for itself.
Given the history, it seems to me perhaps we haven't been taking God out, rather, we've been putting one particular flavor of God in, to the detriment of all the other flavors.
If you really want to have this discussion then open a thread somewhere more apropos, and let me know. I'm happy to have a civil discussion, but there's no reason to hijack this thread further. I'm sure you can cite references to back up those broad evils you state and link the causation to a lack of God in government?
In peace,
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Posted: 5/18/2008 6:30:22 AM |
1) Whats up with the incresing number of females seeking "Godly" men lately?
Have you noticed that we're living in a culture of instant gratification and perversion and exploitation of all things that were once highly regarded as chaste and traditional? Have you noticed how vain, self-centered, and heinously behaved people society has enabled people to be? Just look at what's going on around us; twenty years ago the most popular shows on tv were about families. Today, "Reality TV" is conditioning the perspective of society to indulge in pleasure of sin and perverts the consequence and desensitizes the demise of indulging. For those of us who have faith in God and desire ultimately to arrive at living in His perfect will know that a relationship has too many obstacles to face in these times to exclude FAITH from finding a life partner.
2) Why are you looking for someone who's super religious but at the same time showing the world what a wildchild you are? Ultimately we want someone who will make us into better people; who will be a witness to our individual life as we grow older and will love us through who we began as through who we grow into.
3) How many men see the mention of God in a profile and immediately move on, as I do? I personally don't reveal much of what I want in my profile because I want to be able to recognize that a person is right for me by who they are naturally-- not by who they will be to get with me.
4) Why is it so important to anyone of any faith that someone theyre dating believes along the same lines as you so strictly? Faith affects the way important life decisions are formed and how people react to the adversity they will encounter in life. Faith is not a moral; it is not a code of conduct, it is not chemistry, affection, consideration, commitment. It is faith-- conviction that your vision will come to pass. Who can expect a good future with another person who does not have faith in common? | |
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