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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 5:22:54 PM | If I may. I know I am late to this thread, but I have been touched by this issue in the past week. Started a relationship with a lady about three weeks ago. She clicked a religion in her profile, but that was about it. On a one of our dates, we went to eat then to a movie, the car talk turned to divine intervention in our daily lives. I do not believe, she does.
We had an at length conversation the next day about this subject. She, mostly asking questions, me mostly answering them. I already know the Bible, and tend to respect peoples beliefs, so I don't have a lot of questions. It was a very good talk to, or so I thought at the time. She asked questions, some of them were a little odd (no I never scoffed or laughed), about what keeps me from stealing, killing, robbing, or otherwise what keeps me doing "the right thing". Other than her Wow Factor responses I thought it went pretty cool. Then she cuts the relationship off because, to her, religion is an important issue. I wasn't buying her a damn ring, or inviting her to move in!
For all of you believers out there who think atheists are all running around planning your demise, you will be disappointed. I make decisions on how I treat my fellow man based on a basic concept of human decency. I try to do right by people because it is the correct behavior in a civilized society, not because of the fear of some heavenly being who is judging my actions.
FOr some of you who have posted, a BIG issue with me: The Bible was not written to be a literal interpretation of historical fact. It is a group of "stories" that are meant to be a guide for living a good life. Ask a Jewish friend (like some of you would even knowingly speak to a Jew) and they should tell you the same thing. Why so many of you have decided to hate, or worse pity, me for my beliefs is beyond comprehension to me. I have read this entire thread and I can honestly say, I pity you for your close mindedness.
ps: This country was founded by men who firmly believed that what goes on between you and your religion is your business, not someone else's. ESPECIALLY not the government's. You really don't want to get started on that discussion, you will lose. | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 6:33:28 PM | Sounds to me if she was ignorant enough to think everyone who doesn't follow a "god"
is so brain dead that they instantly become rapists, murderers and thieves you should have dug a hole and asked her to jump in because people like that are taking up valuable oxygen that someone with a brain may need. Last time I checked it's usually the other way around when it comes to belief. Worship of a diety is usually just an excuse to commit disgusting acts in "god's" name, then walk away guilt free. It takes more decency to be moral and have no "god" because you have to take responsibility for your own actions. No excuses. | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 6:40:37 PM | Post 142:
The sad part is that many of you on this site just don't understand what it means to know the Lord.
The really sad part is too many peeps did too much LSD back in the 60`s
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 8:01:26 PM | Why do you listen to women?? Don't.
Just nod your head, and agree. When the important stuff comes up, then get serious, until
then, treat them like the little children that they are. Women are not logical, that is why you must not listen to their crap. Delight in them, but don't take them seriously.
Remember, change a womens mood, NOT her mind.
So, if she says "you must believe in God"
lie, because, the lie is actually GOOD for her, and say "yes, I am not openly religious, but I do believe in God"
Done. Over. Does your not believing in Santa Claus cause problems with your children??
Of course not...if it means a lot for your child for you to believe in Santa Claus, and it upsets them if they don't?? what are you going to do? stick your guns? that would be selfish. You say to your child "of course there's a Santa Claus honey"...and you enjoy your relationship with your child.
Here's Richard Dawkins on "God". Very very funny and brilliant man
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=qR_z85O0P2M&feature=related | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 8:08:33 PM | Hopeful said:
I do pass by the people who make a big deal out of this, obviously. That wasn't my original point. What I was asking was why I had to? Why so much close-mindedness? Again, I guess I must just surround myself with more liberals & intellects than I realized, because among the people Ive known in life this is just a hypocritical & downright dumb issue to filter a potential mate with.
You know, there are a lot of people speaking out on this thread that are saying some really offensive things about Christians and about Christianity. Most of these things are incredibly stupid. In fact, most of these comments are so very ignorant that they just don't bear my getting agitated or upset about so I won't bother to respond at length to the lot of them. I will say this though to you, Hopeful, in response to your particular comment since you started this little jewel of a thread.
You say you surround yourself with more liberals and intellects than you realized. You allude that these people aren't close minded. Well, Hopeful, if they are anything like the people on this thread who have insulted and denigrated those of us who are Christian, then I have to point out to you that they are far more close minded and ignorant than we could ever be. We do have some simple preferences that we desire in a future mate. And it's really not any of your business or anyone else's for that matter, why we desire what we do. It's not your place or anyone else's on this thread to give us trash about those preferences. Regardless, that is what ignorance tends to do, so no matter. It's really no skin off my patooty.
I will say just one more thing. I recently graduated with a master's degree, Hopeful. I am far from ignorant or stupid. And I'm extremely far from close minded. The sad reality is that the really stupid people are the one's who incessantly stereotype others to the degree that has occurred on this thread and furthermore though we may believe that Jesus said "turn the other cheek," I don't think that means that any of us must become a doormat for abuse. As far as I'm concerned, if you've a problem with us then please, by all means, do pass us by. We appreciate it, far more than you will ever know!
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 9:16:43 PM | I have to agree with southernlass: just because people/we believe in a loving creator, does not mean we left our brains behind in the dust! I have faith in God. If a man is truly offended by any mention of God in my profile, then really... it's better that he turns and goes away.... Obviously we would not get along anyway, since God is a part of my life daily and I don't have issue discussing it. The thing that concerns me, is that we are all emotional, physical, spiritual beings... but so many don't realize it, or deny it, or something!
As far as intelligence and belief goes... really, if a person reads and understands the Bible... it takes "more faith to NOT believe it" than it takes to believe it, because of so much truth there. I think often it is an issue of..."ignorance is bliss!"
Yes, I have experienced zealots...and those who speak "big medicine," who are nothing but words. These situations can certainly be a TURN OFF. But it's also a turn-off when individuals criticize people who speak of their spirituality openly... as those criticizing HAVE left their brains behind in the dust!
I am very tolerant of those who have no religious beliefs per se... or a religion that is very different than mine... or a religion that is the same as mine, but a little "different" I will say. The key is to "allow" others to be individuals, regardless of their beliefs. Don't criticize, or tear down someone, just because their belief is different than yours; that is illogical since it cannot be proven. I see far too much immaturity here, considering this is supposed to be an adult community.
I am thankful that I can openly say that I will only consider a long term relationship with a man who loves God. Of course, I will have friendships with men who don't have the same belief (as me) as well. But anyone who says hateful things, just because I believe in a Higher Power/God (particularly for my relationship future), is purely ignorant and immature, seeking to create strife.
Who needs strife based on ignorance? It's just noise.
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 9:19:39 PM | The worst relationship I ever had with a man I met the man in church.. the best relationship I ever had with a man I met in a bar.
I think that these woman want men who understand the importance that a belief in God is for them and they want compatable people.
I am very strong in my faith.. but I try to soft peddle it. I have found many people who claim to be strong in their faith actually are not. But I do try to put elements of my faith into my profile because I would like to attract a man who is similar to me in the desire to find a mate who will be compatable with their faith. That is very important to me so I try to put buzz words in my profile that they will pick up on.
Now, as far as dating to just be dating I will go out with anyone no matter what their beliefs are. I just finished a great.. dating relationship with a gentleman who was non-religious. We got along great because we focused on those things that we had in common. We talked a little bit about our views on faith but generally tried to steer away from it. He did something very sweet for me Easter by buying me a corsage for me to wear to church on Easter Sunday. He was not marriage material for me and I was not for him either because of our differences in faith issues but he was an awesome friend and a great man.. generous and kind. | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 9:21:17 PM | How many men see the mention of God in a profile and immediately move on, as I do?
I would have no problems with a strong religious woman, unless she tried to shove her beliefs down my throat. | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/11/2008 11:56:57 PM | My statement of being surrounded by intellects was not meant as a swipe to religious fanatics being dumb. But the reactions & assumptions that I WAS calling people ignorant only further proves the close-minded point Ive been trying to get across. The instant someone "thinks" & forms an opinion of your beliefs that isnt favorable, he's judging you. If you go back and re-read any of my posts, Ive been clear time & again that Im not out to bash anyone's beliefs.
But see, because I question your views and think too logically to have the sort of blind faith you do, Im now a bad person because Im "wrong" in the eyes of your scripture. THATS the hypocrisy. "Im a God-Fearing Christian and accept you all...so long as you agree with me. Otherwise take a hike because youre on a Long Black Train to hell". Give me a break!
I stand by my comments. And in response to someone who says they can be religious but still have tits...thats what motivated me to ask these questions in the first place. Its the ultimate tease..."look at my cleavage but you can only touch if you will pray The Rosary with me". LMAO!!!! | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/12/2008 5:12:25 AM | To fullonpro,
No wonder you are single, with the attitude that women are "little children...not logical...etc" The rest of your diatribe is not worth quoting as it just proves how "well" you know women, and how little you think of them.
By the way, your suggestion to lie to a woman is utter BS, as any man who has tried to lie to me about having any sort of faith or relationship with God has been found out - by me!!!!
You are entitiled to your opinion, your beliefs - or lack of same, just as I am entitled to mine. My choice to be with a man who truly shares my values is not going to be swayed by those who don't agree with me.
To Genuine Hope: I couldn't agree with you more. Stand for what you (we) believe in! | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/12/2008 8:43:31 AM |
I stand by my comments. And in response to someone who says they can be religious but still have tits...thats what motivated me to ask these questions in the first place. Its the ultimate tease..."look at my cleavage but you can only touch if you will pray The Rosary with me". LMAO!!!!
Idiots looking for other idiots, simple as that!
More like intelligent adults knowing that you should connect on more levels than just the physical level. Anyone stupid enough to think that a belief in God and Jesus boils down to a rosary really is ignorant! Anyone that doesn't want to be able to fully communicate with a partner is an idiot!
Please educate yourselves and learn that the Bible isn't as scary as you think it is. Be good to your fellow man. Help those that you can. A person that doesn't believe in those two major teachings in the Bible aren't worth knowing. Education cures ignorance. Seems like you are afraid of what is written in there and are afraid of women that believe in the teachings because you don't want to connect on a mental level, only sexual. | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/12/2008 9:31:22 AM | I don't expect anyone to believe in the things that I do or in my religion, but if he has some sense of commitment toward any religion it is good for me because he would have some sort of conscious to the shit he does in his life.
I am religious and not angelic my no means. Sometimes. I don't want a super religious person but someone that has a conscious and know that there is something that is higher and more powerful than he is that may help dicate his actions. I just want a balanced person.   | |
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/12/2008 9:45:16 AM | This is very evident - Why a person who is spiritual/religious would desire someone with similar religious beliefs......Obviously, someone that does not believe in a God will have major issues with someone who is religious or has some sort of belief/God.
If a couple marry, this will be a problem - How will the ceremony will take place and how the children will be raised, etc.....For some it may not be an issue, but we all know that religion brings a whole new set of issues to be considered.
I don't know what you mean by "super" religious. lol This is a conflict if one of the parties does not have any beliefs and the other one does. Hence, it may be a deal breaker for many.
It's just another element to take into consideration when dating. Just like kids, financial stability, wanting/not wanting kids, smoking, drugs, etc......are. Nothing different or out of this world.
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| Why Do So Many Women Require That I Must Love God?
Posted: 5/12/2008 9:45:22 AM | just em,
You state that we need to educate ourselves. Lady, I have been through your Good Book more deeply than you can imagine, and you are deluding yourself with this safety net you call your faith. You need to quit listening to the ministers who are attempting to soften the blow. They are mostly driven by your money and will lessen what the book says to keep those dollars rolling in.
You people who think you can do whatever you wish, then claim forgiveness because you have "accepted" Jesus Christ as you Lord and Savior. It is not simply words, it is in your actions. You are the true hypocrites. Not those of us who just want to live our lives without being judged by you.
This thread was started by a guy who claims Christianity, and you believers have attacked him. Who is in the wrong here. He asked why does religion have to come before basic human forms of attraction and compatibility?
He was told because you are less likely to be abused by a Christian man. Well my dear, statistics say differently.
Because a non-Christian man can not have the moral compass without a magical sky wizard. Wow, just wow.
I know I am picking your name out of the list of people who have done this, but if you return to the beginning and read this thread from there to now, in an objective manner, you would see this.
And, yes, there are a lot of obnoxious atheists who just wait to jump on an issue like a pit bull on a postman. They piss me off just as I am sure they do you.
I wish all you hypocrites truly can look yourselves in the mirror with no guilt. BUT, if you read you Bible, you will realize that, if you are right and I am wrong, I will see you in Hell. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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