| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/22/2004 1:38:45 PM | Hey, alura, would you cut off a woman's tits who f**k over her own son? Or maybe slice off her clit? It seems to me that the only peole who truly get to hear about - and deal with professionally - the atrocities commited by women on children are social workers and therapists (my former occupation). Hey, how about the woman who placed her 8 month old son into a pot of BOILING WATER cuz he wouldn't shut up? What punishment does she deserve? I got a million of 'em , folks!
There is a wealth of research out there - if you look - that will tell a sorry tale about the crimes commited by women towards children and youth. mutilations/infanticides/sexual predation/horrible emotional abuses... the list is huge!
An eye for an eye is emotionally satisfying, or so it seems, but... | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/22/2004 1:51:00 PM | Oh, one more thing... the research shows that woman have a tendency to abuse MALE children at a greater frequency rate than female kids... now whats up with that, eh?
I don't have answers to this sickness ... there are male AND female perps in on this planet and it makes me sick .. all I know is that find it difficult to live in a world where any one person can be considered disposable... | |
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joe333
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/23/2004 5:04:23 PM | The punishment that they get is nothing compared to what they have done. I dont believe that they could be reformed. I cant really say what I think realisticly they should get, but in my mind I think the chinese torture thing would work great, hang them by there tally whackers for a few years.
The victims/survivors not only go through the torture and pain of being molested or raped, but they have to live with the thoughts and scars of it for the rest of thier lives. While the devil that done it gets to go to prison, get an education while they r there, and free medical benefits, pretty much whatever they can find to do with thier time, right on hand for them. After they serve their time, they r free to go with nothing to worry about with it ever again. Sure they have to register, but how would u know if one lived right next door to u? How much trouble is it to mail in a letter to verify where u live?
My daughter was raped in March of 03, nobody paid for her visit to the hospital, or the therapists that she has to go see. No one gives her a free education.
He is in prison now, to serve 10 years. He gets credit for the time he served in jail, and only has to serve out 80% of his time. He plead down to 3 degree rape and sodomy, but not until the last minute. We were all in the court room ready to go to trial, when he decided that he would take a plea. So he will serve 7 years for something that he done on his own free will, and get out and carry on with his life as if nothing happened. My daughter will suffer for the rest of her life, because of something that she had no control over, and have the scars to prove it.
Why should they get to be in a different cell, so they dont get what they put out. So what if they get thier a** beat, and used liked they use thier victims? So what if they get killed? They made the choice to violate, why shouldnt they be violated? | |
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joe333
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Joined: 9/21/2004
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/24/2004 11:35:21 PM | forthebeauty
Geez I read that and my blood started to boil.
That plea bargain crap for those predators should be constitutinally outlawed.(sh*t I can't even type that stuff upsets me).
ah there was a lot I was gonna say the hell with it, mandatory death penalty with no plea barganing. They only get out and do it again, why the hell let them get another opportunity.
I just hope time will heal your pain.
I know some one who lost his daughter to one of those sickos he ain't the same, but he is a bit better. And thats been 15yrs I think. | |
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Posted: 10/25/2004 5:32:55 AM | Thanks for the thoughts joe. I agree. The state attorney asked my daughter and me if we would agree to it, but we didnt have to for him to accept it!!! So much for victims rights. My daughter agreed as long as he didnt get probated and not have to serve any of it. So that was the one and only condition!!!! He can be parolled early if they see fit. He is from panama and is suppose to be sent back over there after he serves his time but I am a little leary on that one happening. Sorry folks I think I need to vent about this stuff!!!! The hospital screwed up the evidence, and even though I seen it with my own eyes, the state attorney said because of the evidence and so many people calling wolf, that it would not be so easy to get the jury to convict. I always said I would killl some one if they ever did this to any of my kids(I wish daily that I would have or could have) but when I came in on it, all I could do was scream. Just goes to prove that u react differently in a time of crisis.
I am so sorry for ur friends loss. Did they get the guy? I would almost bet that it wasnt his first time. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 11:57:33 AM | Well I've read the whole of the post relates to this and I wish I hadn't,I don't get upset and teary eyed and have read these things before in the paper and news but some of these post really get to you.I'm boiling inside and my eyes are actaully starting to water.
FORTHEBEAUTY:I hope and pray that your daughter can get on with her life and not let that monster win any more than he has already.What he got was a discrace,I just hope that justice is served in another way.in prison and hopefully when he get out and something traumatic happens to him(you'd need feeling for that and these people don't have any).
Rehabilitate? My @rse!! Re-offend yes!! And that's what it comes down to.Why try and rehabilitate them? The damage has already been done.
Very slow torture is the only way,inject them with something that slowly rots their limbs.Let them watch/feel their hands and feet rot and drop off so they can feel the pain that they put people through.Let it last as long as possible and let them beg the people they've done these disgusting crimes to give the authorities permission to end their lives.That way you have the satisfactoin of letting them rot in prison.
Right I'm gettig off this forum quick and I'm gonna look for something a little more uplifting.
For anyone else that this is happening or happend to tell,tell,tell,keep telling people untill something done and these people are taken off the streets so it doesn't happen to anyone else.
Huggs and kisses to ALL the decent people in the world and hope all you CUN*S rot in hell for eternity.!!! | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/26/2004 2:04:59 PM | An appropriate punishment for these scummy b*stards would be to chop off there penis with a rusty bread knife(this increasing the chance of them getting an appaling STD) cover the wound with some vinegar leave him to rot in a cell for about a week with no food or water. Then tie him to a pole and let the wa*kers victims loose on him for half an hour to an hour with bats. Cut him loose then the old hung, drawn and quarterd, obviously cut him down before he dies so he feels the pain of the horses pulling at his body from all limbs.
Yeah im quite a nice non aggresive guy by the way
Rapists and Peadofiles are the skum of the earth and desrve to be treated in any inhumane way that canbe thought of!!! | |
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joe333
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Joined: 9/21/2004
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/26/2004 10:13:20 PM | forthebeauty
Hey vent all you want..... its ok.......
As far as catching that creep, and no it wasn't his first time.
No he split, and the trail got cold and the police can only do so much.
Last time I talked to my ex.. she mentioned that they figured the creep died.
She mentioned something about we'll say Jim wanted to get his body exumed
and a DNA check. But something to do with samples and getting a court order and all that
was a problem or obstacle.
I just hope his death was horrible.
Anyway..... so many victims of repeat offenders.... is why I stand by my earlier post of how to deal with them. | |
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Joined: 10/18/2004
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/22/2005 3:17:38 AM | Very angry mob type mentality in here
Perhaps the subject matters merits that
Perhaps it doesn't
Death Sentences will never be given to Paedophiles and Child molesters unless their actions caused death
Lets look at this more logically for a moment
Rehabilitation does not work
Chemical Castration does not work
Perhaps this would work
Sentence then whatever prison term
After the term is served fix location bracelets to them forever
This is the only viable scenario I can come up with
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/22/2005 4:13:41 AM | MEN! Thank you for feeling comfortable enough to share your experiences with us. All too often, men will take this secret to the grave. There are many men who are sexually abused. I voulnteered as a group counselor for these "victims", victims of ALL ages and both genders. It takes a lot of strength to talk about it, for both genders.
I always thought castration was the answer, but as mentioned before it does not stop the abusers. Maybe the tracker on the ankle would be a good start along with NO priveleges in society, just work and supply your household needs and live like the animal they are. I ALSO think there should be some sort of tattoo on the forehead that all can see, and an order to remain bald so the tattoo will be visible at all times. A drug that removes the desire. Prison clothes at all times, and a lot of monitoring, Priosn with inmates that hate them and WILL give them a taste of thir own medicine.....if this fails, DEATH! Women abusers too, I say they should go through the same punishment.
My abuser eventually died, and it wasn't until then that I was set free along woth a LOT of Faith in God to help me through and to live a normal life. GO FORWARD is my motto as a survivor. Thank you BYRD for your openness. | |
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| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/22/2005 7:47:00 AM | Some people who are rapists and child molesters have no choice but to be that way. Their condition is a genetic one that they'll never overcome.
Unfortunately, we other humans don't know which ones are like that and which ones can be rehabilitated, and for the fact that all of us come from ancestors who killed as a survival tactic, we feel compelled to take calculated risks that if they've exhibited this behavior on one or afew occasions without taking a life, that they can overcome their compulsions to commit crimes like this.
If we could look into a person's mind and determine who those individuals amongst us were who would not be able to overcome those traits, we should kill them.
Unfortunately, we don't have that kind of knowledge at this time, so we're forced to do what we're doing...which is to find a solution somewhere between taking the person's life and/or making them a lifetime habitual criminal or trying to rehabilitate them while at the same time protecting society as much as possible.
I really think criminologists and social scientists should take a closer look at what methods work best in achieving these goals. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 1:13:41 PM | There is no answer to these because, the laws are forever changing.............who can judge anything, while abortions are still being performed legally.......all of these things have been happening for thousands of years. What,....suddenly-we're going to finally do something about them?
We all have our opinions..........but, still no one has an answer. | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/22/2005 5:13:41 PM | | While I would love to see every child molester put to death since they are worthless pieces of trash...I opt for life in prison with the general population. Even the hardest of criminals hate violence against women and children...let them deal with them. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 5:31:36 PM | Appropriate punishment fot this is death, flogging, castration,,,,,you guys are right, but the real question s what is a legitimate solution for these deviants. Sadly society is weak on crime.
And this is crime. It's not a disease, or a condition, or a syndrome, or any of the buzz words society uses to decrease the liability that these losers have to escuse the fact that they like to fvck little kids.
The reality is that there is no real way to accurately assess the recidivisim potential of pedophiles. It's all guesswork and a tragically flawed guesswork at that.
My personal take on this is that for the sake of the protection of society the death penalty should be liberally applied on child molestors, and that life sentences in prison are the norm for sexual offences against children. The conditions of imprisonment should be reasonably humane, yet reflect the reality that this imprisonment has no corrective intentions, it is merely society protecting its self by warehousing dangerous criminals. This imprisonment should be devoid of the wasteful and bloted excesses that currently define sex offender treatment and reabilitation in psychiatric settings. No psychologists, mental health professionals, counsellors, programs or other taxpayer funded do gooders. Nothing but walls, guards, and oblivion. | |
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