| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 7:27:37 AM | the fact that they are still considerd to be humans even after what they do to our children.. when this happened in my family I called the police .. yes I wanted him arrested and put in jail.. but guess what you have to do .. prove it.. and then the effect it has on the child to have to relive it over and over again.
even with councling it is still hard for the child to get past it.. all I can say is the man that did this. in no longer around .. | |
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xchuck
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Joined: 8/8/2005
Msg: 177 | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 7:55:57 AM | and have you or anyone who knew this man warned the next state?
like I said before anyone who knows and does nothing is as responsible,....
sorry but that includes you if you have done nothing,....since you clearly KNOW!! dixlyn
so how fine is it with the family of his next victims,....
In your country he has 50 whole states to go through,....
what if each is just happy he's not in theirs????? and leaves it at that,....
letting the next guy worry about something he doesn't know is coming is not fair,...
infact down right irrisponsible,.....sometimes it doesn't just take a villiage to raise a child,...
it takes one caring enough to raise one safe,...
Some years back when I was in my twenties I lived in a small,...adult only appartment building,....and one night I was awakened by the sounds of a baby crying,..crying in pain,...
For a while I had that worked into my dreamstate but once I awoke,...I went to see where this crying was coming from,....turned out to be an appartment down the hall,...
I bannged on the door demanding to know what was going on,...the meek voice of what I assumed was the mother appologized and said she was visiting there and her baby was fussing she was doing her best to settle her down,....
Now many people would have left it at that,...I am not many people,...and I know the difference between fussy and pain,...so I told the young woman she had two options,...open the door for me so I could verify this for myself,..or open the door for the police a few minutes later,....she went for door number one,...
The baby was indeed in pain,...from teething and this young mother had no idea what to do,...so I took the baby from her,...(with her permission,..I'm not that pushy,...) ,...made her a cup of tea,...and walked the little one a while untill she calmed down,..then I went to the pharmacy for baby anusol for the teathing that she was suffering from and some gripe water for the colic which ensued from the crying,...all of us were sound asleep 2 hours later,...and this was a very small thing to to to solve this situation,...but when we just sit behind our doors or computers and do nothing but complain,....nothing is acomplished and everybody looses,... sometimes it's not so bad being a busybody,..the variable is the intent,.... | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 8:16:34 AM | | well when I knew he moved to Denver yes I made a call and when I heard he moved to OC i also made a call.. but as of now I have no idea where this monster is at.. and yes sometimes we need to be busybodies as long as we don't over do it.. and at the time this happened there was no law that they had to register with the city or state they lived in.. I just remember the nite we found out what had happened and how we felt.. I called his wife to warn her.. I called my friend that is a counsler and I called the police .. then my ex and stayed up all nite waiting for the monster to react or come back.. he did call our house one nite while the kids was with a babysitter and wanted to talk to our son.. which the babysitter said no.. as he was only 5 at the time and the man wouldn't say what it was about.. then we got home she filled us in on what happened and what he said.. which was nothing that would make her think it was a bad call.. well anyways.. I hope he rotts in hell .. | |
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xchuck
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Joined: 8/8/2005
Msg: 181 | |
| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 8:17:11 AM | | That all sounds good...but in fairness i do beleive Dixie said she called the police and nothing was done..what other options are there for her...reporting him to another state means nothing because he had'nt been convicted of anything | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 8:34:48 AM | with all the smart people we have out there surely something can and should be done,...there are many options,....one is being more vigelant with our children,....
do you know how many women and men who stay at home with theirs and wind up looking after half the neighbours kids there are left
and how that merely staying home and raising your own kids instead of going out to earn enough money to pay some stranger to do it for you are looked down upon,...as lazy gadabouts who don't work,...etc,...etc,...etc,...
first we have to value something enough,...to do all we can to look after it......
babysitters,...nanny's,...day care workers even regular school teachers have always been among the lowest paid group out there...... why? until that changes,...wich I don't see happening anytime soon,....
And then there's putting presure on politicians to put pressure on police,...and so on and so on and so on,...are you a part of youor neighbourhood watch??,...
but to say well,...that's all we can do,.....
sounds like giving up to me,...do we value our children or don't we,....
I know we love them,...but how about they get one nintendo less and more care instead,...
there are always options,.....all that's required to find them,...is the desire to settle for nothing less,... | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 3:11:23 PM | What I find worrying is that this teacher is explaining the excesses of the 60's in relation to a couple of 12 year olds and passing it off. THe 60's are not a good example to follow nor can they be an excuse for child abuse so just pack that line of thought in.
THe thing is that 12 is NOT the legal age of consent.....so as a teacher.....a more responsible attitude should be forthcoming.
So any man/woman making the assumption that....oh I think this girl/boy has been there before....so its ok....no its NOT OKAY!
You could end up saying that about anybody.THen why stop at 12 year olds?
Is nothing sacred any more??
And you know.....adults should behave like ADULTS and respect under age children.
If you are not man or woman enough to relate to someone of your own age.....you need help....get it. TODAY.
THe other point I want to mention is working mothers.Thats a big issue here.Inflation and cost of living here is amongest the highest in the world so a woman needs to work as well as a man ,to make ends meet.
I won't work.....I just decided whats important for me.....family.My MIck is of the same mode so he has to work just that bit harder to keep us in clover...it can be done.
MY parents had to work because there were 8 of us but luckily we all looked after each other.....my brothers were golden.....keeping tabs on us girls....very protective .My Mam had us quite regimented.....she was there....even when not there.....I must laugh....she would say to us.......if any of us....bought home ANY DISGRACE......she would disown us AND leave the country..................its not come to that!
THe LEGAL age of consent should be 21 at best......18 at worst.
Its not for any individual to assume its ok to have any close encounters with children under the legal age of consent. YOu have NO RIGHT to do that....... Legal or moral. | |
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jimb77
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Joined: 8/30/2005
Msg: 184 | |
| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 3:40:28 PM |
If punishment for rapists were death what would stop him from killing me and getting 20 to life instead of death ... Why not kill the only witness? That is just my option.
I am sure you mean opinion. So, why not just let them go free, then they will never kill a victim? that is what you are saying. 20 year to life instead of death? what are you talking about, you know you make no sense at all. | |
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Tinkle
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Joined: 11/2/2005
Msg: 185 | |
| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 3:52:21 PM | | Let scientist do experiments on them rather than animals. That way we benifit from their existence and kill less innocent animals. Plus, it is a better test subject since it's part of our species. If they grow a huge tumor on their ass and die from some super powerful hemoroid, good. | |
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| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 4:06:02 PM | They did that once to a convicted criminal in the US. After his death they froze his body and shaved it slice by slice to completly document the entire human body. His name is with held due to the refusal to allow him any 'fame'. The information has been very useful to the medical industry.
So there is precidence and there should be more of it. I understand he volunteered for it because he 'Found God', what ever reason it is fantastic information. | |
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weriz
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Joined: 9/12/2005
Msg: 187 | |
| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 4:23:45 PM | it is so simple it boggles my mind!!..first offence..some jail and some rape in there themselves,with a STERN warning repeating over an over on this first offence on whats to come should there be a second offence..the second..two options..
#1.A new planet of their choice
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#2.loss of both of thee 'ol testis/ovaries
..what the hell is the hold up..are the liberals running the country or something? | |
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xchuck
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Joined: 8/8/2005
Msg: 189 | |
| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/24/2005 6:03:55 PM |
THe thing is that 12 is NOT the legal age of consent.....so as a teacher.....a more responsible attitude should be forthcoming.
So any man/woman making the assumption that....oh I think this girl/boy has been there before....so its ok....no its NOT OKAY!
You could end up saying that about anybody.THen why stop at 12 year olds?
Is nothing sacred any more??
And you know.....adults should behave like ADULTS and respect under age children.
If you are not man or woman enough to relate to someone of your own age.....you need help....get it. TODAY. You nailed it Mary...good job i agree with all that and i think that is a first for us
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| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 11/25/2005 5:12:38 AM | in fact a teacher is bound by LAW,...
to notify the authority if he/she suspects any abuse of any child,....
and sex with an underage child IS against the law and ultimately abuse,...
regardless of the response or lack ther of from the child involved,...
reason being an underage child does not have the legal right to say yes,..to anyone,...
that's why when they commit offenses they are treated as children not adults,..
which in my opinion is as it should be ne matter how manny times this is thrown out and disregarded,.... | |
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| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 12/14/2005 8:15:00 AM | Life without parole.
Sterilization simply means they can not impregnate anyone..Castration usually means chemical castration and they do not stay on the medication..How many do not even regsiter, or see the parlole officer?. In some instances where chemical or actual castration was used. (removal).. The individuals were still violent.and some used objects, instead.
There is nothing definitively known way to to "cure" a rapist or pedophile...so life.
Jmo J | |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:43:04 PM | Having known adult survivors of child sexual abuse, I say that their debt to society and to the victims should be life-long.
They KILLED the souls of these young innocents for their perversion and sexual gratification.
They deserve no quarter.
Send them to the nether regions of the world to dig for land mines. | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 12/14/2005 3:45:44 PM |
This is touchy subject.. As a person that is close to someone that was molested as a child.. the first thing you want to do is find the scum and kill .. but no you can't do that.. the thing is they take away from the child .. his childhood.. and how dare they .. you love your child and pray to God that they will be ok ,, do everything in your power to make sure this never happens again to them or anyone else you love or know.. and it makes it hard when the molester is someone you know.. as most are.
This almost made me cry, knowing adult survivors myself.
If anyone - and I DO MEAN ANYONE (from relatives of mine and friends) - ever hurts my babies, I WILL go vigilante.
I would not hesitate to hire a goon to do damage, and I know some scary goons out there who would do the honours for nothing more than the price of a cup of coffee when we meet to discuss the 'problem'. | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 12/14/2005 4:03:20 PM | I would not hesitate to hire a goon to do damage, and I know some scary goons out there who would do the honours for nothing more than the price of a cup of coffee when we meet to discuss the 'problem'.
Who knows how often this actually happens? It's not something that would have stats......
I believe it happens, though I don't know of any specific occurances, .... | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 12/14/2005 8:15:32 PM |
Then they should be buried alive with rats.
why punish the rats???
As a victim/survivor of a child molester.. All I can say is if I had it my way.. i'd of done away with him a long time ago..
what did the legal system do after he was reported.. nothing.. he walks scott free while all his victims have had issues do to his abuse..
over 15 victims who I know of.. in a 20 year time span.. not including what ever victims he's gotten to who I don't know of.. | |
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