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Posted: 12/14/2005 8:49:15 PM | THESE SICK ANIMALES SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED OUT OF PRISON THEY SHOULD CASTERATE THEM AND ALSO THERE IS A KNOWN ONE ON PAL TALK THIS PERSON SPENT 20YRS IN PRISON HE MOLESTED 20 BOYS AND GIRLS , HE RAPED HIS GRANDMOTHER AND HE WAS IN BEASTALITY, WA STATE LET HIM OUT HE DRAWS A SS CHECK HES 38 THIS SICK PIECE OF GARBAGGE COST MY MARRIAGE HE WAS MY STEPSON HIS DAD BELIVES HES FINE HE WILL NEVER OFFEND AGAIN ALL THE SIGNS THERE AND HES ON THE COMPUTER STALKING ALL THE TIME MY HUBBY DIVORCED ME BECAUSE I FOUND LITTLE GIRLS PANTYS AND BRAS IN THE WASH OF HIS SON HIS SON GOT MAD THROWED A FIT AND LEFT AND WOULD NOT COME BACK TILL I WAS GONE, AND THE ONES OUT NOW SHOULD HAVE A CHIP PUT IN ALSO A ANKLE MONITRING DEVICE . ALSO PAL TALK SHOULD MONITOR AND PLENTY OFFISH HE HAS 2 PROFILE AND HE IS REGERSTERD IN NEBRASKA I PITTY ANYBODY WHOS EVER INVOLVE WITH HIM ITS A DANGEROUS SITUTION  | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 12/15/2005 6:01:22 AM | But........what of NAMBLA?
NAMBLA receives support from many of our "free thinking" socialist Brothers in the Movement and seems to be an accepted part of "Gay Outreach" Programs funded by many public school systems.It seems to be somehow, un-PC, to trample on the sexual rights and sophistocated needs of NAMBLA members in our zeal to protect children from somthing that many NAMBLA members consider a "Natural series of events."
What of NAMBLA's "rights?"
What happened to "Embracing Diversity?" | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 12/15/2005 7:03:50 AM | the interesting thing is right here there is another thread that discusses if a woman who married a 15 year old boy should have been charged with something,...according to the law in her state any child of any age does not require parental conscent even to marry if there is a pregnancy involved,...
in this case the 37 year old WOMAN is very pregnant from her 15 year old husban who was most likely at least 14 when this IMO molestation began,...
and it's now perfectly legal,....way to go eh?
stupidity?,....absurdity?.....molestation?,.....but deffinately abuse,....and,.....legal,.....sheeesh
So I guess Mary Kay Laterno's mistake was living in the wrong state,.....
seems to me you have 50 countries with very different laws all living under one flagg,.....
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| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 12/15/2005 10:55:06 AM | | I always though castrating them with a rusty tin-can lid seemed reasonable. For the ladies, hmmmmm....doesn't really happen that often so I haven't given it much thought. I'll ponder it and come back with a suitably vile punishment for them as well. | |
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Posted: 1/1/2006 6:20:07 PM | i believe life in prison w/o the possibility of parole would be great. it would rid my neighborhood of over 100 sexual offenders within a 3/4 mile radius and my area isn't the worst.
here in CA, they release these criminals in the area they committed their crime... makes a whole lot of sense huh? real smart... let's let these men (in 99.9% of cases in my area) out in the same area their victim lives, where schools, parks and teen centers are all over the place. what happened to not allowing people like this live within a certain distance from these areas?
if they kept them in jail, that would obviously keep them off the streets where they are able to prey on another child. life is what the child raped or molested gets in the form of memories of these horrible events, why not punish these type of criminals with the same in prison. | |
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| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 1/1/2006 8:05:38 PM | | Here in NS it is the same way. A buddy of mine though administered some vigilante justice. When he was 17 a pedophile tried to rape him the pedophile failed thank God. So when the pedophile had to do some short jail time (not for trying to lure my friend into his house but an incident in which he exposed himself to a young girl, (he was a biped liked boys and girls)) my friend decided to get revenge. He first asked around the neighbourhood just to get a feel for what ppl would think. He said in a store "oh i see "Chester the molester" has moved in to the neighbourhood" and ppl would say "yep and we arent pleased about it" and my buddy says "wouldn't it be a shame if someone burnt down his house" they said (sarcastically) " oh my it would be a terrible shame (laughing). nothing that good ever happens." Well a few days later the pedophiles house went up in smoke and they had to keep him in jail because he had no place to live. He was on house arrest by the way for another sex crime. he ended up spending a year or two in jail. not good but it was one year he was off the streets and my buddy probably saved the virginity of dozens of children. I would nominate him for citizen of the year. | |
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| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 1/1/2006 9:06:59 PM | i could never condone vigilante style retaliation. what sucks about our system is that once you've done the time for your crime, that's it, you shouldn't be punished any further. what your friend did/didn't do, was no better than what the pedofile did... arson is just as much against the law as child molestation, they just carry different weights in societies mind.
was anyone ever prosecuted for the arson? had he not heard of protesting outside this guys house, sending letters to his city council members, posting flyers around his neighborhood, doing anything he possibly could to make this guys life miserable without breaking the law? burning his house down was a step over the line, imo. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 5:35:25 AM | | maybe it was a bit risky but it kept the molester off the street so kudos do the arsonist. if the police did their job then he wouldn't have had to burn down the pedophile's house. Let's just say that the police didn't investigate this crime do heavily. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 12:28:59 PM | | lol. As long as you aren't a pedophile you have nothing to fear. People in nova scotia are actually quite nice. most ppl wouldn't go to that length but hey the guy was a pedophile so he got what he deserved. Unfortuately hes back out again and this time he is in an apartment so the townspeople can't smoke him out again. i wish he would just leave glace bay, there is no place in canada for pedophiles. there is really no place on earth for them actually. | |
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| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 1/2/2006 12:51:02 PM | nope, i'd have nothing to fear other than vigalante style retribution if i ever did do something wrong. that mentality scares me because it doesn't just happen to pedophiles... you piss the wrong person off and that could be it if vigalante style retaliation is overlooked by the police and socially accepted.
unfortunately, this particular pedophile did his time and when he got out... he had to live somewhere... just as the over 100 pedophiles/sex offenders that have been released into a 3/4 mile radius of my home. all i can do is protect myself and my child and spread the word about these folks who live near by. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 1:03:51 PM | | Pedophilia is one of the worst crimes you can commit. If someone tried to rape me i would probably burn their house down too. If you rape a child you should get life in prison. Since the police won't do their jobs (or maybe its the courts our justice system is pathetic) the citizens administer their own brand of justice. Pedophilia is really the only thing that is universally condemned around here. We have other criminals like drug dealers and no one burns their house down. Besides you don't look like a criminal Nova Scotia is not a bad place. Children have a right to grow up in a molester-free neighbourhood. It is a basic human right. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 4:10:48 AM | Ugh ... what a hard topic. Please forgive the "hypothetical" nature of this post, as I cannot in good conscience speak of actual events of this nature that have occurred to my family/friends.
Re: The Age of Consent in Canada
Years ago I read the rules on Age of Consent and was surprised at the fact that children under 14 could not be charged with a sexual assault, even if they "raped" a child of 10 or even younger. This rule appears to have been changed since I last read the rules, but not much.
Now, the age of consent for everyone is pretty much 14 years old. To this, there are allowances for a child of as young as 12 years old being able to "consent" so long as the "partner" is not more than two years older and not in any position of authority.
There are some allowances for not knowing someone's age. E.g., an 18 year old meets someone who says they are 15 ... they have sex, but then it is discovered the younger person was only 13. So long as the 18 year old can show they made a reasonable effort to determine the child's age, they would get off.
The thing is, there is no legal difference (in Canada at least) between an 18 year old and someone who is 65 (or even older). If there was, that would be age discrimination, which is protected by the Bill of Rights. Thus, while the law is intended to protect against unnecessary prosecution of young people engaging in teenage sex, the result is that 14 is basically the age of consent in Canada.
Re: Sentences for Sexual Crimes against Children (under 14 or under 18)
Sexual Interference: (Sexual Contact with someone under 14) Max 10 years
Invitation to Sexual Touching: (Enticing Sexual Contact; Under 14) Max 10 years
Sexual Exploitation: (Sexual Contact; Under 18; Person in Authority) Max 5 years
Incest: (No age specifications) Max 14 years
Anal Sex: (No age specifications, but some exceptions) Max 10 years
Bestiality: (No age specifications) Max 10 years
Distribution of Child Pornography: (Persons under 18) Max 10 years
Possession of Child Pornography: (Persons under 18) Max 5 years
Okay, so tell me this: Why is Incest, which could occur between two consenting adults (no provision is made for age), assigned a maximum of 14 years in jail potentially for both participants, and yet Sexual Interference, which is against someone under 14 has a maximum sentence of only 10 years? Does anyone else see an inconsistency here?
I am not saying we should reduce the penalty for incest, but should not sexual crimes against children carry a greater weight than what happens between adults? Admittedly Incest between a parent and a child would be most heinous, but at the same time, that would still qualify as Sexual Interference and would receive the higher sentence when the age difference warrants.
Also, in Canada at least, distribution of Child Pornography carries a maximum 10 years. Note: this is not the creation of Child Porn (although it could be), this is the distribution of obscene material without necessarily involving a child. That gets you up to 10 years, which well it should (granting certain exceptions). But for actually touching and molesting a child (Sexual Interference) a person gets the same maximum (10 years)!
While I hear everyone who says “kill them”, the fact is the Laws of Western Society do not even come close to this. I have heard of Life sentences when a criminal is given a “Dangerous Offender” status, but to get that, most of these monsters have to have committed multiple crimes.
When less egregious crimes receive the same or greater sentences than the most egregious, something is wrong, or at least not consistent in the law. It seems to me that here is where we can make some kind of positive change.
Everyone has an Representative in Government at the level which makes laws like this. Contact them. Send a letter stating clearly that you feel the sentence does not fit the crime. Someone else mentioned how petty theft gets the same sentence as molesting a child. Let the Government know that that is not acceptable. That to protect out children, the crimes against children must receive greater sentencing, even graduated sentencing (i.e., adding offences together for longer terms, so that someone who abuses a child might get up to 20 years for that, but if they are ALSO a person of authority when they do it, they get another 5 years tacked on top).
I would love to see child molestation be a capitol crime, yet personally, I know that would never fly. But I can see the discrepancies in the law right now. If we will give 14 years to consenting adults, it should not be difficult to justify giving that much or more to child molesters. (I would like to see the max raised to 20 years or more.) Also, I think making child pornography involving real children should be a separate crime or qualify as Sexual Interference and receive the same (20+ year) maximum.
And I have expressed these concerns to my local representatives, who seem to be in agreement, but because of Party Politics, unless the Government changes, the laws will probably remain the same.
One anecdote for those who might be interested:
Conversation between two people I knew: a woman concerned about her child’s welfare and a Criminal Lawyer friend.
Woman: “If anyone ever raped my daughter, I would take a shot gun and blow off his kneecaps.”
Lawyer: “If you did that, you would go to jail, but if you killed him, you would get off.”
Woman: “How would I get off if I killed him? Isn’t that worse?”
Lawyer: “Sure it is, but if he is dead, then you and your daughter are the victim, and the jury will sympathize with you. If you only wound him, then he will be in the court room and the jury will consider him as the victim.”
Sad, but true.
Good Luck!
P.S. Just in case I have misinterpreted any of the Criminal Code, you can check the law here: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-46/42339.html | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 5:20:52 AM | Much longer prison terms than are currently being given out -- along with an end to all bans on publication of offenders' identities. The "scarlet letter" treatment might be going a little far but if you commit this type of crime you have forfeited your right to "privacy" for the rest of your natural life. The right of decent citizens, women and children to be protected from this kind of criminal far outweighs any right that such offenders may claim in this respect.
I don't know how things are in America; my understanding is that prison sentences are generally harsher than in Canada. Here, sentences for all types of crimes are often ridiculously lenient. Recent newspaper stories have chronicled how even persons who commit violent sexual offences are in many cases getting sentences that do not even involve any prison time, only "house arrest". I would call this a joke -- if it wasn't so sickening. Judges and legislators who abdicate their responsibilities to protect women and innocent children should face judgment themselves. I am certain that they will one day but perhaps not in any earthly court of law. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 6:16:45 AM | | art... i live in the US and have no idea what the prison sentences are for sexual offenses. i do know that we have the "megan's law" web site to turn to in order to look up the number of registered sex offenders in any given area. you can see a picture of the person, the nature of the offense committed, their address, and whether or not they are properly registered as a sex offender. it's helpful information but hard to use when you're surrounded by so many of them in one neighborhood. it would take quite a few people from our neighborhood to stand up and do something to rid our area of these predators and unfortunately... the majority of people in my neighborhood probably couldn't care less. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 6:27:24 AM |
id go after him and castrate him...shove his****down his throat and watch him die.I dotn give a damn if i go to jail..you hurt me or the ones i love ill kill you.
Exactly right. I've used these same words for years.
Porn may play a role in this sick behavior, but molestation and rape have been around a lot longer than porn has been available to the masses. Some people are just perverts. It is about power and control. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:16:54 AM | | This will piss off a few, but I think they need fixed where they can't get hard no more. Knowing that was going to happen when they get caught, they might think twice about doing it. It wont stop all of them, because they would use other things, but it sure would cut the number of them doing it down. Yes i know that wont ever happen, but I think it should. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:32:30 AM | @ sammysalt1
Wasn't that the purpose of using saltpeter? And didn't they use that a while back with prisoners? Maybe they still do, I don't know. The OP said it's about power and control and I agree with that statement. And you're right, Sammy, they would still use other things. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:45:11 PM | I am submitting this post at the behest of someone who e-mailed me to do this,..not sure why he wishes not to submit this under his name but ,...
Basically the problem is,..that a close family member,...he recently found out was molested by 2 individuals when she was very young,...her abusers have both since past away and he is,...(understandibally so ) angry enough to want to dig them up and kill them again,...
An impulse many can relate to on a visceral level but would in fact serve no purpose,...
hence he desires to be put down for,...kill the SOB's 
***on a personal note the woman who was abused by people who should have been there to protect her from such monsters,....is dealing with what sounds like to me repressed memories that are surfacing,...perha0ps by the death / funeral of the offenders,....I have no facts to base this on,.....however,....the main focus from both of these people the concerned relative and the victim,...need to understand that this is something she is going to have to work through hopefully with professionals,....all the relative can do is be there for her,...and listen if she is at a point where she can share what happened,....
Being as the offenders are dead and some states actually have a statute of limitations for prosecuting the offenders,...some actually didn't have the appropriate "criminal" laws on the books at the time of the offence,...and therefore also can't be dragged into court,...
I dare say the frustration and depression upon learning this fact from the standpoint of the victim,.....may far outweigh the frustration this individual feels currently whith the notice that these particular offenders death,....at least they can't hurt anyone ever again,....
not so,..... for someone who's above ground and won the game of,... beat the clock,....
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