| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/30/2008 10:37:14 AM |
I have been on POF for about 3 months. I have noticed that mabye half of the profiles that I visit either have a blank for profession or some cute saying inserted. At first I wondered, "What else are they hiding?" Now I really want to hear from guys as to why this is blank.
First of all its about privacy; 99% of people on internet social sites are flat out clueless as to what hackers can do on your account. I personally am not going to let the world see everything about me including my job. If they want to know they can talk to me or get to know me. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/30/2008 11:34:30 AM | | I sure isn't hiding nothin'. What ya see is what ya gets wi' the old garbageman. I guess I might be suckin' in the beer belly in the pic though. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/30/2008 6:54:33 PM | mthomjmark, When a man is handsome, tall, and articulate like yourself its probably not that important to most women whether they have anything else incommon with you. For a guy thats maybe height disadvantaged, or not a "pretty boy" women need to be attracted to them for their character, humor, and also for things they have in common such as education and career. I like to believe there is someone out there for everyone but maybe they need to form that initial attraction with more than their handsome face. Just as I'm hoping there are men out there not just looking for young, blonde and thin! LOL.
PS... I wish you could meet my neice. She's 29, beautiful, and a dancer and assistant choreographer for a cruise line in Los Angeles. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/30/2008 7:15:35 PM | | The blank job section, is personal choice, I don't think it's anyone's business what it is that I do, afterall aren't you supposed to be here looking some the person, not what they do for a living and how it can benifit you? | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/30/2008 11:02:43 PM | | It doesn't bother me if people leave that section blank. If I start communicating with a guy and he seems interesting otherwise, I'll likely ask about it. I'm just not interested in dating the unemployed. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/30/2008 11:18:18 PM | It's not only the profession slot I see not filled it, there are plenty of profiles where other sections are left blank. What is there to hide exactly? If you can't be honest on a dating site, then go home.
As if, what was I thinking?
Pink | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 12:46:20 AM | If someone hacked into your account and you've simply said 'medical'...'sales'...'construction'...'own my business'...'customer service'...how in any way, shape or form is that going to aid a hacker or a stalker? No one is asking to see the company you work for, the department, where you park your vehicle or what bus number you take.
A profession can be ambiguous...it at least gives the reader an idea of what field you're in...if you are employed...if there's a commonality. Sorry, but I see no reason why this should be left blank. It's much more intrusive asking about salaries or heights and weights (I know weight isn't on this one). | |
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| Queen of the universe Posted: 5/31/2008 1:58:20 AM | I am proud to state what I do for a living. I consider myself very fortunate to have fallen into a wonderful 'n worthwhile way to make a living that I started at the age of 22, thirty four years ago. My work has afforded and blessed me with fortune, health, a positive attitude, zest, and a massive amount of free time as I've aged. Certainly well beyond my simple dreams as a teen. Never would I have believed as a young man, that I was capable of all this.
Having said that, the 'cutsie' and 'flippant' remark filled-in space some leave, is a 100% turn-off to me. I can't change the page fast enough, having wasted the time spent reading that far on their bio. To me, it's a sure sign of further deception to come from that person.
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 7:27:42 AM |
PS... I wish you could meet my neice. She's 29, beautiful, and a dancer and assistant choreographer for a cruise line in Los Angeles.
Well I'm sure if he wanted to he could now, you just gave him all the information he needs to find her... | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 8:50:39 AM | | Actually spaz there are more cruiselines, dancers, and choreographers in Los Angeles than there are TVs in all the homes in Oklahoma. I don't think he would find her that easily. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 10:45:26 AM | As a guy who puts stupid things in there, it's because I only want to meet people who don't care about it. Anyone who judges people based on that is someone I don't even want to know - and that includes the girls who's first question about someone's new guy is what they do for a living.
Everyone successful or in a good career on here that I know downplays what they do if they're looking for a relationship. I'm a "Crazy Old Man" - self-made 26 yr old multi-millionaire who runs 3 companies in his spare time. You never know what you're going to get with those empty fields. :) | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 10:56:49 AM | | Till you really meet the person and get to know them, would you believe what profession they put in there anyway? They could say a doctor and could be making it all up, or they could be a doctor and say street sweeper cause they did not want to be liked because they had money. Who knows, who cares, forget the profession, it does not matter. I met a nuclear scientist once and he was one of the creepiest guys I ever met. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 10:57:06 AM |
I don't think
Best think a little harder, but of course in order for me to dispute your post I would have to explain how to do it. So I'll be nice, and I won't... | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 11:22:08 AM | When I see nothing listed in the profession slot, I wonder why there isn't any. It makes me wonder if the guy is a professional bum (LOL I dated one of those and don't want to again! AND he is on this site! you oughta see what his slot says LMAO).
I understand there are many non-conformist jobs and that's ok though. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 12:07:31 PM | | Personally I like to know what a guy does. Best example is that I don't want to date a cop. Too dangerous, too many worries, just not something I want to involve myself with. But I certainly won't pass a profile by just because that's blank. I agree with the money thing. Some men are worried about the gold digger part, and I can't blame them. It works both ways though. I dated a guy recently that was all about me working and him staying home... so it's not just women that look at money. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 1:49:05 PM |
Personally I like to know what a guy does. Best example is that I don't want to date a cop.
Just curious, my father was with law enforcement before he retired, how far do you project that fear? Fire fighters, coal minors, pilots, highway workers, loggers, steel workers, roofers, Electrical power linemen, Oil rig workers? Hispanic workers died at a rate 11 percent higher than any other ethnic group on the job last year last year. Law enforcement doesn't even make the top ten list for dangerous jobs, guess you ruled out a lot of men. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 1:58:53 PM | | Not having your profession filled in isn't a deal breaker, but I do take that into account. Example....I look at profession to see if we have something in common. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 5/31/2008 11:12:53 PM | | Some people say they would not date the unemployed. Hmmm. I know of one woman who dated her partner while he was unemployed (partially caused by a sprained ankle). He was unemployed for six months and then decided to go to law school. That six months of time when he was out of work was instrumental in his decision and he became a successful lawyer. Had she not been there for him and supported him emotionally, she would not have enjoyed the fruits of that success. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 6/1/2008 2:03:05 AM | ...I have realized that the basic problem is that they have a "profession" slot at all. Bottom line most people do not have a "PROFESSION". They have a "JOB". ...
... Classically, there were only three professions: Divinity, Medicine, and Law...
Unfortunately, you only tell half the story. Classically, those so-called professionals at various times throughout history were not necessarily regarded as people one would want one's children to emulate. The status associated with term ``professional'' is what has changed. In that same classical sense, a ``profession'' was a fancy trade that sat between academics and the conventional trades. That is probably why law schools and medical schools are called professional schools instead of graduate schools and professional schools award degrees like JD and MD instead of Ph.D., which requires a different academic track in those fields. I could just as easily say that ``professionals'' have usurped the status associated with the title ``Doctor'' in the same way you seem to think that tradesman have attempted to usurp the status associated with ``professional.'' However, most of the people I knew back in academia thought all of this elitist stuff was crap so all of this seems rather funny. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 6/1/2008 2:57:02 AM |
For some of us it is important. Gold digging? Not at all! Superficial? Maybe...but no more so than looking at weight or height.
Right, but the contorted logic, tortured rationalization and in some cases, outright false statements that people use to try and show how their superficial preferences really aren't superficial makes for a good lesson in psychology. I reserve the right to not date anyone for any reason without apology or explanation AND I won't whine if my preferences rule out so many women that I can't get a date. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 6/1/2008 5:08:25 AM | | Great point abelian, I suppose that all presupposes that who we fall in love with is a conscious decision like buying a car or a house. I'm sure some of us tell ourselves that, but it doesn't always work out that way... | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 6/1/2008 6:32:36 AM |
I reserve the right to not date anyone for any reason without apology or explanation AND I won't whine if my preferences rule out so many women that I can't get a date.
Your right abelian. We all have different preferrences and choices in life. Whether you are talking about choice of career, spouse, or choices about how to spend money, we all to some degree choose our life. Indeed we have an inherent right to our choices as long as we are prepared to live with the consequences of those choices. In other words, as Mom used to say, "you've made your bed, now lay in it".
Spazz, Your also right. We can't always choose who we fall in love with. Thats probably why some people choose Not to hang out with someone who is married, or someone who for any reason is not a person that they want to fall in love with. If you don't date them or get to know them...your not going to fall for them. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 6/1/2008 11:15:27 AM |
Best think a little harder, but of course in order for me to dispute your post I would have to explain how to do it. So I'll be nice, and I won't... ^^^He's correct. There actually IS enough information there. Just sayin'. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 6/1/2008 1:26:28 PM | It's so fascinating to me how oft times there is this desire among professional well-educated women to only date well-educated, professional men. It seems the motivation is that the women want intellectual equals in the very least, but status that degrees confer and opportunities for higher household income also play a role in this choice.
Now that we women are in a better position financially we can have more choices in men and we can wait longer and don't have the urgency of having to leave one house and enter another before our "expiration" date. We can choose very educated men and in some cases can win out over less educated, more beautiful women than ourselves, because it is clear men increasingly value educated women. It would seem that young women today have the best of all worlds because there are so many professional careers that have opened up. They can choose career and delay marriage.
In a few generations back men had the benefit of a classical liberal arts education when few women did. But men still chose women who were not educated at all, except perhaps in the domestic arts. I grew up in a family where my scientist father wanted his daughters to be scientists and encouraged us in this direction. My mother, though gifted in math, was not high school or college educated because she came from a rural area of Canada that did not have a high school. Getting to a high school would have been a dangerous proposition in the middle of winter, requiring that she snow shoe her way to school in inclement weather.
Nonetheless, she is a very bright woman and my father saw her native intelligence and he adventurous spirit and courted her and I am grateful because she gave me some really great values that I probably would not have gotten from a frail, pampered American woman. But today, if the roles were reversed and she were the more educated of the two, would she choose him? It seems she might not given what many educated women require of their spouses today. We're in a long period of rising expectations, but there doesn't seem to be a ceiling in sight--though reality seems to be taking a different turn.
Interestingly, there is a trend in colleges at present, where the numbers of men entering and graduating from college are lower than the numbers of women doing the same. We are entering a period where women are more educated than men--the exception being the hard sciences and high tech fields. What I see in the future is many women having few choices of men--if they make their primary criteria level of education and level of intellect. The few that are lucky in achieving this goal of finding mates will often find them among those in the hard sciences.
A certain percentage of those marriages will fail and these women will be reintroduced back into the dating pool and find themselves deeply frustrated to find a well-educated man. They might continue to look, convinced he is out there, but will have trouble, unless they loosen their criteria. But that may be difficult, unless they begin to value qualities other than education.
It appears that many more men are not going to college because of the rising expense of doing so. Smart women seem to be less deterred by the rising costs--in part I think because they still see college as the ONLY option to securing their futures, whereas smart men will consider jobs that are high-earning, but don't necessarily require a college education.
It's an interesting problem and I am curious how colleges are going to resolve it. If all we cared about was equality of choice for both genders for those entering college, then the problem is basically solved with just a slightly higher percentage of women entering college at present. If we look at graduating classes, more men than women drop out. But if you are looking at having an equal number of men who are well educated so that everyone gets a partner with the same level of education, women clearly are in trouble. | |
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| Lack of information in profession slot Posted: 6/1/2008 2:22:22 PM | | i agree with the post about the lack of educated men both in the present and the future. yes i've seen stories that talk about colleges having a higher percentage of females and female graduates. yes, those girls will not find equally educated men, or alot of them won't. i'm definitely willing to accept someone less formally educated than me, but sometimes it seems that those men are intimidated?? and alot of the ones who do have more education or success than me are looking for a woman with social status. and a huge percentage of men of all education levels and lack thereof are specifically looking for a certain physical type first anyway. so...what else is a girl to do???? and now, i'm even having to explain to guys why i am still single???? i just try to be open and flexible and look for mutual attraction, common interests, etc., regardless of education. | |
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