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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:03:12 PM | Tenbears17292 and psyche doc, thank you.
wutznot2love... initially I was caught off guard, stunned to see this person sitting there,and like .. not starting the car and checking to back out... alot I see now in hindsight. Being shocked, I didn't even think of approaching him, it was after he left in the general direction I realize he as a car ahead. Sometimes in life there are no 'coincidences'. Maybe he was stunned I saw him looking at me (afterall, he SAID he lives 2.5hours away from me.
and yes, sorry I forot who mentioned it, he was a car salesman at a car dealership, from what he told me.
I Hunt Cuz I can, ..... we live 2 hour apart.
dawn1114, we made eye contact, he lives no where close to me.
And if anyone is interested, I have found 2 WONDERFUL men on a site similar to this. The first, I must admit I coldn't give in and give up horsebackriding (my passion) and give away my cat and dogs because this man had SEVERE allergies. I was in denial that he would take medication and change...even though he wanted to marry. We had a relationship for 1.5 years.
The second guy, loving, genrerous of himself, caring, everything I could almost want in a man... went out 2 years. My child/spousal support would be taken away if I moved in with someone. He did not wat to marry, but he did want a life together andget a home after renting awhile. A gamble again. He could not see my dilema if things didn't work out.
So no one can say I don't have faith in internet dating. I love hard or ot at all, and try to see straight in the process.
Now maybe I should put on that tin foil hat and wait for answers  | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:08:28 PM | Hi Lauren,
Ahh, so he's a car salesmen @ a dealership. Guess that would make it more likely that it WAS him you saw (having a car w/ dealer plate hanging out of the trunk). Interesting that he lives 2 hours away. Do you live in a place that's smaller or larger than where he lives? Meaning - would it be realistic for him to be in your neck of the woods?
Have you been communicating with him since? Why don't you just email him and tell him you saw someone who looked just like him at the grocery store -- it caught you off guard. See what his response is..............but then again, considering the weirdness of it all, maybe just best to let this one go? | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:20:26 PM | | Every email you send can be traced back to your ISP. Not everybody has this capabity but it can be easily done. I'm sure each time you log onto POF your ISP is logged somewhere. It's the electronic age where everything is recorded somewhere. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:26:28 PM | Relax
You're quite safe here
Am I dreaming, no
Where am I, in bed
Well, what am I doing
Oh, t-t-t-t-talking to myself
Look, I must have
A star on my door
Or better still
A door-a doo-a door
Ah, swing doors up
O-o-o-okay doors, swing
Paranoimia
Swing
Paranoimia
Swing
Now I know I'm dreaming
Dreaming, dreaming
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming
Hmmm, how do I get to sleeep
I know, I'll count
Those bars on the window
One, two, three, sleep
Paranoimia, paranoimia
Paranoimia, paranoimia.....
How do I get
How do I get to sleep
Please let me sleep
Po-po-poetry, that'll work
Come sweet slumber
Enshroud me in thy purple cloak
Hmmm, doesn't even rhyme
Is that my teas made
Paranoimia paranoi
I cant stand tea
Tea, tea, tea, tea....
Paranoimia, paranoimia.....
Ahhh, Happy Harry's High Club
How do I, how am I
Gonna get to sleep
Trust me, trust me....
Have you ever heard of a doubleganger? Oh you have, but don't know exactly what it was? Let me help you out, it is an apparition or double of a living person. Can you imagine bumping into a spirit that looks just like you? Seeing a ghost would freak most people out, but seeing a ghost that was a double of themselves would be even more frightening. Some times, these spirits are called cowalkers. Some people believe that for every human on this earth there is a shadow self that is always with them. It is not possible for others to see your doubleganger, only yourself, except for those extremely rare occasions where a doubleganger shows itself to your family or friends. Doublegangers are also advice givers and give humans advice by sending ideas their way. Sometimes a doubleganger can be very mischievous and malicious.
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:34:13 PM | Yes, someone can track things back to your IP addy, if they are truly determined.
But, unless you leave your box connected all the time, there are quite a number of other people who would use the same IP addy, so the odds are long that someone could really trace it back to you.
At least that's my understanding of it.
Paranoia will destroy ya. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 1:09:53 AM |
I was merely pointing out what the OP had actually posted in her original post --- because it seems that several people were basing their response on the misbelief that her place of employment was this particular grocery store. that's all. nothing more, nothing less.
It appears to me that nobody will know whether the OP works or just shops at that grocery store unless her original post is clarified. Am I the only one sees a missing word in her explanation?? To make it easier, re-read the following sentence!
Now, I may be far too paranoid, but as I was my grocery store this guy glanced at me. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 3:50:25 AM | I too asked that question looking for some clarification in msg 38
<div class="quote">I have many unanswered questions:
(1) do you work at the store ? this is asked be cause you refer to it as my store and you say you get on POF from work.
(2) Did you set up your msn account from Home or work?this has bearing as to where the ISP was addressed
If I am not mistaken there is a difference between an IP addy and the ISP addy One is the random number given to you as you get on the other is the one that goes to only you and is given to the customer by the provider and its the one that has the Personal info attached to it. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 4:14:41 AM | | Yes it can be done. Just think he now knows where you live and the complete layout of your house. he may have already entered and left spy cams all over your house! | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 4:52:51 AM |
Yes, someone can track things back to your IP addy, if they are truly determined.
But, unless you leave your box connected all the time, there are quite a number of other people who would use the same IP addy, so the odds are long that someone could really trace it back to you.
At least that's my understanding of it.
Paranoia will destroy ya.
Wrong, ISP keeps logs so it wouldn't be hard for a hacker to figure which ip you were using. I have been hacked when I was a newbie. The person found my name, address, phone number and info for my dialup account. My isp at the time called me and asked why I was double logged onto my dialup account. I know a woman lost her job, she gave out her cell phone number which is not listed really. But a person paid for hacking service to get her full information. They eventually got information where she worked. They harassed her employer so many times until they fired the person. Keep in mind all this can be used for identify theft.
There is some preventive measures to avoid most of this crap and just safer online security. You don't have to be paranoid but you should take some common sense preventative measures.
1) Use vpn or proxy
2) use limited account not admin account
3) scan for spyware, viruses and trojans
4) use windows updates to download and install security patches
5) don't receive files from people especially people you don't know, even pics they can be embedded with trojans | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 5:32:16 AM | Hi Lauren8,
Do you know what pepperspray is?
Wasp or hornetspray works to shoots 25 feet away!It will buy you a couple of minutes.
Next time turn around and walk back in the store and ask someone to walk you to the car.
Take a self defense course.
Arm yourself.
Good luck.
Warrior Princess | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 7:05:38 AM | I think the OP meant IP (Internet Protocol address), not ISP (Internet Service Provider).
The answer to if an IP address can be traced to a particular computer is yes and no.
With an IP address, anyone can find out the ISP/general location of the pc used by an email sender, but a home address/name is not easily obtained. That information belongs to the ISP - a subpoena/search warrant is needed to get any personal information linked to an IP address.
Aside of privacy laws, you can't 'look up" the end user of an IP address per se, because IP's are not always assigned to one computer. Different computers can use the same IP at different times (you may get a diff # every time you connect or only occasionally). There is a limited number of IP addresses but an increasing number of Internet users, this is why ISP's tend to use dynamic (changing) assignment of IP's - there are not enough IP addresses for everyone to have their own.
The link below shows most of the info revealed by your IP address.
http://www.tracemyip.org/
This link (below) traces the route between your IP address and another IP address. It displays the route on a world map and lists all the host names.
http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/tools-visual-traceroute
Emails contain the IP address assigned to the pc it was sent from, unless anonymous proxy servers were used (not the address of the pc used to create the account)
This link shows you how to locate a sender's IP address in gmail, hotmail and yahoomail. It's in properties in Outlook.
http://aruljohn.com/info/howtofindipaddress/
Online messengers also provide IP addresses, but you might need to download a program to find it.
ISP's and other organizations are allocated a specific range of IP addresses. This link shows some of those allocations (block and org)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IP_address_blocks
As for the programming geek who found out a home address in 10 mins from an IP address - now, really.....
It would require illegally hacking into her ISP's server (which would probably be quite well protected) then rapidly locating a specific database among thousands upon thousands of files (rather a large task)., hiding his own IP and covering his tracks. Somehow, I just can't picture a handy little excel spreadsheet opening up and identifying her IP, account# and street name. Unless the geek works for CSI Miami, in which case it makes complete sense. It's the database next to the "Building Silhouette Recognition System" underneath the "International Shoeprint Database". | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 7:18:14 AM | Thanks for the usefull information.. in the OP's case I think they were chatting online through MSN Messenger.. I understand tracing that to a IP or ISP in general, for example knowing if they are using earthlink, ATT, Sympatico, etc and getting the IP or ISP addy ) is much more difficult in a chatroom, correct?
Never mind just rechecked she is using hotmail.. wonder why I thought it was a MSN messenger
Feel free to delete this post | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 8:53:26 AM | Hi Lauren8,
Do you know what pepperspray is?
Wasp or hornetspray works to shoots 25 feet away!It will buy you a couple of minutes.
Next time turn around and walk back in the store and ask someone to walk you to the car.
Take a self defense course.
Arm yourself.
Good luck.
Warrior Princess
Is it just me, or is this getting completely ridiculous? A guy looked at her in a grocery store, and just happened to be parked next to her in the parking lot. She said he resembled the fellow she's been chatting with on POF, but hasn't (as of her last post) received clarification that it was, indeed, him. And now you're advising her to pepper spray some innocent (until proven guilty) schmuck?
Paranoia reigns supreme!! This is silly, it was probably just some random guy who thought she was cute.
Last year I was corresponding with a fellow from here. One day I was sitting on my deck, and noticed this guy walking down the street. And boy oh boy, it sure looked like the guy I was talking to. I sent him an email asking him, and sure enough, it was him. He walked past my home almost everyday. Was he stalking me? Nope, he just happened to live in the same neighborhood as me, and I lived very close to a large shopping center.
The difference, between my situation and the Op's is that I asked him, I didn't make ASSumptions. There was a very simple explanation. I'm willing to bet there is in this situation as well.
This is, of course, just my opinion. 
*Edited to add: For the record, it's Doppleganger , not doubleganger. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 9:31:20 AM |
The difference, between my situation and the Op's is that I asked him, I didn't make ASSumptions. There was a very simple explanation. I'm willing to bet there is in this situation as well.
This is so true! I had a guy message me on another site and was like 'Hey whatup, just back to the portland area we should hang out." I responded and went about my day. Later that night I went out to Starbucks because that's my place of hangout at the time and as I walk in I see this guy chilling with his friends outside. It was the same guy!!! I was too chicken to say hi and he didn't recognize me, but I sure as heck recognized him. It seriously could have just been a random act of god that he would be at your place of work. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 9:41:34 AM |
This link (below) traces the route between your IP address and another IP address. It displays the route on a world map and lists all the host names.
http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/tools-visual-traceroute
This traced me to within 2/10th of a mile close enough and whats to say he didn't do a trace as he was getting the e-mails. That would be close enough for concernthats for sure. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 10:40:52 AM |
Is it just me, or is this getting completely ridiculous? A guy looked at her in a grocery store, and just happened to be parked next to her in the parking lot. She said he resembled the fellow she's been chatting with on POF, but hasn't (as of her last post) received clarification that it was, indeed, him. And now you're advising her to pepper spray some innocent (until proven guilty) schmuck?
I think it's ridiculous too. Not that you shouldn't have something just in case, but this guy did absolutely nothing wrong. Bigger coincidences do happen. Like I said already, I don't see why it's so absurd to ask if it was him, instead of asking where he is (duh, at the computer talking to you). | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 10:40:56 AM | I swore to myself I wouldn't come back here after my message #9 and all that ensued thereafter, but, here I am. (sigh) For the luvva God and all that is sacred, just message the man and _ask him_.........."was that you???"
*breathlesshush* - You will be happy to learn, no, it is _not_ just you. ~bangs head on desk~
Incidentally, I ran into a man at Tim Horton's (coffeeshop)I had messaged with online in January, he lives in the next town. By the way, there are other Tim Horton's in our city. Just thought I'd point that out. ~wink~ ______________________________________________________________________________________>>>>>>> | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 1:57:49 PM | I did ask him, he simply said he didn't know he had a twin.
We are 2 hours apart. Small town Ontario vs. city outside of Toronto.
Too many coincidense. But thank you for everyone's input. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 3:13:00 PM | I don't think you are paranoid.
A friend of mine can trace the location of where a computer is transmitting from. She has done it for me a couple of times when I thought I was being scammed. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 6:24:28 PM | Not so much hacking but probably social engineering.
Does he have your first and last name? Well he can access the county property tax site and get your address online. In my area it would be the TAD.ORG.
Ok he has your first name and a general location. You'd be suprised how easy it is to find out things with just a first name. There were a few pay sites that I used to be on and I still get occasional e-mails, but since I'm not paying, I can't respond. So I do a little searching of their first name and city on Myspace, or search on their dating username @hotmail.com @gmail.com, @yahoo.com. If I find their myspace page. I send them a message there and say I'm no longer a paid member so I hope they didn't mind that I contacted them that way.
At best, all you can get from an IP is a city.
Also if he had your name and industry. Lets say for example you are a loan processor for a mortgage company. He could just call local offices and say something like "Do you have Lauren's fax number? I have some paperwork to send." If they say "Who's Lauren?" then he hangs up and moves on. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/11/2008 9:09:26 PM | Thank you for all your input and take on what I felt was an unusual situation..
I am just very observant of my surroundings. This will pass, and I will know what to do if i dare say, see that person again.
I'm just going to relax and not make a big deal of it any more. I will be aware though. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/12/2008 9:47:16 AM | Sounds like coincidence to me. But it is possible. However, not to the extent people here are telling you. On the other hand, in a very very small town.....
This did happen to me once. One of my sisters was having a "woman" party thing, and knowing there was food there, I decided to go over and steal some sandwiches and macaroni salad. I was standing in the kitchen and thought I noticed someone sitting in the room of about 20 women. I looked around the corner and sure enough I caught her staring at me. "You POF?" "Yup" I told my sister "Give her my number. We have a date" lol. Everyone was Uhh? Wha?? She laughed and I left. We dated for about 4 months but circumstances got in the way. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/13/2008 1:11:20 AM | After I split up with my husband I was on aol (this was many years ago) and this person messaged me that they loved the area of the country I lived in (I had my name and home town in my profile). They said they had gone to college there but now lived over 5 hours away. We talked briefly...in my profile I had I was in sales and they asked me what type and I said I sold furniture. The next day at work I got a phone call from this person. He had called every local furniture store and asked for me. A week later he told me what I worn to work that day. I had a very unusal last name and was the only one in the phonebook, soon he was calling in the middle of the night and waking me up...saying I didnt know when, but one day I would hear his voice for real in my ear when he was standing behind me.
This was a few years ago and I felt totally stupid for getting myself into this mess. I copied every message from him to me and gave it to a friend at work and then I resolved not to be a victim anymore. I made up a screenname for the home town he said he currently lived in and messaged him and got his phone number, the company I worked for was based so that if you entered a home number it gave you the persons name and address, I sweet talked the credit manager into his other information and that night I told him who he was, where he lived and told him if i ever heard from him again I would first contact his employer and next his wife followed by the police. For years later I felt so good about this until one day I realized I had just made it that much harder for his next victim! I wish now I had gone to the police and let them handle it.
If you are concerned, you have a right to be...we at times tell people things about us without realizing how much general information we are giving out. He might not have had to trace your IP address you might have just told him what he needs to find you.
I had one guy try and follow me home after meeting him, he was texting me at the time and asking me how to spell my last name...there are all types out there...just becareful. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/13/2008 8:04:36 AM | Some of these post are good info.I didn't know you could be traced to your ISP.Spending yesterday going from windows98 to vista,I'm wondering how many of the people on POF would be knowledgeable enough to do that.
Now your phone number is a different story. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/13/2008 8:08:50 AM | neurotic!!!
Yes you could be traced with your ISP..and granted there are some wack job hackers out there...
however........................your ISP number WILL NOT tell a hacker which grocery store you go to and when you will be there...and... An ISP number , will not tell a hacker what kind of car you drive!! | |
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