| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/11/2008 2:32:05 PM | Re the opost
Since they were so attracted to each other even before the in parallel Masturbation event, they were mentally cheating anyway. If one truly "loves" another, one is not attracted to anyone else. This may be a "purist" POV, but if anything:
a) It shows that the whole idea of faithfulness is not that natural or common (ie very rare) especially LT.
b) If one is to cheat, one might as well do it the good ole fashioned way.
The OPosted case (as well as follow up addition) shows how absurd this whole concept of cheating is, especially nowadays! | |
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| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/11/2008 2:46:49 PM | everyone is different. some people feel cheating takes place as soon as you seek some sort of gratification (sexually or emotionally from another) others feel not until intercourse/oral gratification has taken place. some people feel it isn't cheating if it's a different area code. others feel that kissing is cheating. depends on the people involved. also, a great percentage of women and men fantasize about someone else while making love to their significant other...99% percent of people don't consider fantasizing while masturbating or making love cheating...the scenario you gave is similar to that. however, some people would think that was an extremely intimate fantasy since they saw eachother somewhat naked and consider it cheating.
me personally? i wouldn't be thrilled with the idea if i found out and would constantly doubt that i'm satisfying my man. i'd rather not know unless they actually acted on their feelings (or if they wanted to) if he wasn't going to cheat anyway...no harm, no foul so why upset me? | |
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| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/11/2008 2:57:48 PM | It's cheating the company of production time.
They are not inherently cheating on their spouse. You are alluding to the attraction as being the cause for the masturbatory action when there is nothing directly linking the two except a third party (your) implications. You are not saying she is masturbating because of her attraction, or desire, to her coworker, or because she knows masturbation t is what her coworker wants.
If the woman said something, or acted, directly linking her masturbation (or what she was masturbating) to the other person then it could be considered "cheating." The same with the guy.
Basically what you are asking is which is more important: The intent (or motive), or the action (behavior). The only thing that is ever (ideally) relevant is consideration of both, the intent (ultimate purpose) and subsequent actions (behaviors) based on motive (or justification, what internally pushed you to do it). It is only when each are considered and understood can the consequences be deemed good or bad, and even then it is strictly subjective to the parties involved.
So no, I would not consider this cheating, just two relatively lousy and unhygienic employees or coworkers. I don't want to desk share with the tuna chair lady. | |
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| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/11/2008 3:01:19 PM | Yes, it's cheating.
When you are married and you love your other half sooo much, you reserve your erotic and sexual activities to that person, and nobody else.
Next time you two are working together could look at each other's genitals, or touch them or play with them, and you would definitely be in trouble.
Work should be that, work.
Think before you allow that to happen again. If it does, talk to that woman to make sure it's the last time. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 3:15:03 PM | This is the funniest story. You guys come up with some crazy scenerios.
Cybersex is cheating, and up close and personal cybersex takes it to a higher level. 4 out of 5 times it is cheating if it is not something you could do in front of your partner without causing some kind of big blow up. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 3:44:32 PM | Oh man ........ that is ruff and I know it for sure.
The exact same thing happened to me one time. But we did speak - just did not touch.
Talk about feeling guilty .........
It is HORRIBLE guilt.
That guilt stayed with me for like ......... 30 minutes after I woke up. | |
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| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/11/2008 3:45:57 PM | | Let me ask this - would both of these co-workers do this in front of both of their spouses? I think not. If not, then, I'd say it's cheating, or damn close. It's a situation waiting to hit the fan. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 3:52:34 PM | | It's cheating because who are they thinking of when they're masturbating? Very attracteded to each other,late at night,they're the only ones working and they look at each other and masturbate? Weird!!! Who does shit like that??? | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 3:54:15 PM | **** THE PLOT THICKENS ****
As this torrid event was happening between the two co workers..... the company janitor was walking by. An older gent. He happened to glance inside and seen what was goin on. He hid behind the doorway and was peeking inside watching the events as they unfolded.
He was dumbfounded and aghast at what he was witnessing. He also became very aroused. He could not control himself and he started to masturbate watching the other two masturbate....... and he himself eventually popped his proverbial cork.
So.... did the janitor ALSO cheat on his wife ????? Sure, 'cause Jack's wife & Jill's hubby get to wonderin' where the fug their spouses are, come upon Onehung Dude doin' the monkey spank dance and, well,...
Let's just say some thing gets outta hand... 
just annudder contribution...
Annudder | |
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| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/11/2008 5:43:01 PM | | Yes most definitely!!!!!! They are sharing something private and intimate together which they should be sharing with their spouses not members of the opposite sex. It's say both have no concept of loyalty or respect for their spouses either. If I found out a guy I was married to or seeing did such I'd give him his walking papers. There is no excuse for cheating. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 5:46:59 PM | In my eyes yes it is cheating. If I had a g/f and/or wife that did that to me, I'd kick her to the curb. Why? Because right now its just masturbation but sooner or later its going to go further. When they start imagining what sex would be like with each other.
What if the woman's current husband had a small penis and this guy was huge. She may want to try the other guy to see how it would feel. And for the guy what if his wife had smaller boobies and she had nice perfectly rounded breasts he would want to know how those would feel in his hands. There are many more scenarios that could lead to sex with either one. So yes it is cheating. BTW sorry for being a little graphic but those are obvious situations that could happen.
Best of luck to everyone  | |
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| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/11/2008 6:18:10 PM | | No the janitor did nothing even close to cheating, same concept as watching porn or strippers etc.. | |
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| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/11/2008 6:43:38 PM | Well, it might not be technically cheating if you are looking for some loophole to crawl through, but close enough for the likes of me, she would be dropped like a bad habit,
I guess maybe she would have been just a bad habit now I think of it.. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 6:44:26 PM | | omg yes thats cheating.. an unbelievably good story but cheating just the same. Any showing of body parts that should be clothed is unacceptable. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 6:47:55 PM |
Is it wrong that I closed my eyes and pretended to be the janitor ?
Starting on Monday I am off to apply for janitorial postions !!!  | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 10:00:42 PM | im sure if you thought about it -you can find some lame grey area to let yourself off for every bad thing you do. -lawyers do it all the time to win cases. prosecutors do it as well -to send people to the gallows. politicians do it to get votes -and to get richer...
bill clinton tried to explain away getting hummers in the oval office. -however if i was married to such a b!tch, i would consider spanking the interns too, then mixing truth with lies as an attempt to clear my conscience.
with that, i guess you can folly that sex with a condom isn't really sex since your insulated with a thin shroud of rubber -keeping you from making contact -hey if your not touching her -your not having sex... woo hoo!  | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 10:32:06 PM | | great NOW im closing my eyes thinking about watching the janitor watch the couple . i guess i can be the suckatary i mean secretary . | |
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Posted: 5/12/2008 5:16:12 AM | A sexual act was shared...and don't say it wasn't shared just because they didn't touch! They did what they did in the same room where they could both see and hear each other; they didn't go off to the bathrooms and do it solo and then compare notes afterwards! This is every bit as intimate as touching, as saying "I'm interested in you", as letting someone in that your partner does not want in. It's intimate, it's sexual, it's private, (well, except for the pervin' janitor!) it's shared! And where were their partners? Yeah, conveniently left out.
And this stuff about telling your partner afterwards somehow makes it "less" like cheating is a total crock. You don't get your jollies and then tell--you talk about it FIRST! Oh man, how convenient---get your jollies and then tell, so you can ease your guilt and feel all better! Wow, what a world!
When in doubt, call your honeybaby up and ask them if they'd mind too terribly much. | |
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| Is This Considered Cheating ???
Posted: 5/12/2008 5:33:42 AM |
Each is very happily married to their respected spouses. They aren't RESPECTED spouses if their partner is jacking off or diddling themselves in the direct presence of another person, unless it is discussed beforehand that such activity is welcome in their monogamous relationship. The activity mentioned here certainly is disrespectful.
How often does this happen anyhoo?
It's cheating in a monogamous relationship when you engage in a sexual and/or intimate activity with another individual without the consent and/or knowledge of your partner. Another way to look at cheating is this: if you can't discuss the incident with your partner, it's cheating.
If it's something you would do in front of your spouse, it isn't cheating. If you wouldn't do it in front of your spouse, it is most certainly cheating. Dr. Phil in this case is correct.
I think if you defend the position that this weird scenario is not cheating, you shouldn't seek to form monogamous relationships. | |
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