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Posted: 6/2/2008 11:50:15 PM | Glock22 shooter...
Just what do you think Ron Paul's stance IS on foreign policy???? | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 8:23:59 AM | | He's a pacifist and a non interventionalist. Points can be made to be a non internventionalist, but in the end, it just won't work. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 8:41:26 AM | I don't think pacifist is a good way to describe him. When most people think of a pacifist, they think of someone like Ghandi, who is so opposed to any sort of violence, they won't even use self-defense if attacked. So saying Ron Paul is a pacifist makes people think if he was president, and the U.S. was attacked, he wouldn't want to fight back. From what I read, Ron Paul has said he would want to go on the offensive if the U.S. is attacked, or if he felt national security was seriously at risk, or if Congress declared war(he's said a president can go to war without congressional approval in the case of an imminent threat, but normall the constitution requires a declaration of war first). So actually, I think Congress could technically force Ron Paul to go to war using a declaration of war even if the U.S. was not attacked first, even if Ron Paul didn't think it was a good idea and was against it. Ron Paul could technically refuse to obey a declaration of war if he was severely opposed to it, but then he could be impeached and removed from office and replaced for refusing to act on the declaration of war, so chances are, he would obey the will of congress.
So, I don't think its as bad as you make it sound. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 10:42:30 AM |
Points can be made to be a non internventionalist, but in the end, it just won't work.
There's nothing to support that non-interventionism would not work and much to support that interventionism has been a massive failure.
He supports an efficient and strong military based upon defense and the guidelines set forth in the Constitution. Not a pacifist in any sense of the word but a realist of what our true responsibilities are and are not. He holds there are just causes for war whether attacked first or not. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 10:45:53 AM | This is the problem in the message and in how it is promoted by those who are not aware of what the message states as, they generally assume or add their opinion which debases the idea/ideals, many do this purposely, knowing that they are actually debasing the actual statements/sentiments put forth by Dr Ron Paul while seeming to believe that by the country being non-aggressive towards other nations, that the people and the nation would be seen as wimpy or make us vulnerable to attack, this is not what non-interventionism means, in truth, it is quite the opposite.
The ideal and purpose of aggressive military is to ultimately abet corporatism or fascism, deviating from the best interest of mankind/nature to give socialists, which in truth is communism run by the elites and their peons, control over man and earth, they are not doing this for the betterment of anyone other then corporate greed and materialism which is cancer of the spirit and mind.
Soon when people are struggling to buy food, the charade associated to wasteful living which includes the celebrity scam, sports and all that Hollywood and the fiat people gave mankind, will be seen for the worthlessness and destructive nature it breeds. In truth, many are waking up prior to the next economic meltdown, those fools who support the wealth transfer system/s will not have money to waste, meaning, the elites and the economy associated to ignorance will collapse.
The CFR and their puppet candidates want the economy to fail and the people to suffer as they will have the solution to the problem they created.
Now on the other hand, Dr Ron Paul can help "people" (not corps(e), the non-living) to avert the collapse by allowing the country and people to have a competing currency against the fed's fiat$ scam. In all sincerity, this will bring untold wealth to the nation as other real people, those capable and willing to produce that which has value (not Hollywood crap and fast fiat food) will move to America and the nation and people will benefit greatly, who would not wish to live where their is true wealth and where lies are not truth.
With puppets and an aggressive war mongering government, dedicated to corps(e) rather then people, attracts those who want war to pay them to be entertained and amused all the while living to be critics of fiat life and debating the false values of worthless crap.
Being one who wishes to create and escalate war is to be more in tune with tyrants or oppressive regimes, these are those who attack.
Fascists or corporate states are have been and continue to be the biggest problem mankind faces. man is not at war against man, it is corps(e) against mankind.
The federal government is suppose to protect people against corporations and cons who seem to know be in control of politics, religion, finance, the military industrial complex and it goes on and on.
The country has been deviated from being one that is for and of people to be one that is for corps(e) and for the exploitation and manipulation of the masses.
As we know, war is truly a racket as old cowardly greedy men and chicken hawks fill their pockets and young people fill body bags, the cause and reason for war has always been for power, control and greed.
Inflation will be getting completely out of hand quite soon as this is a strategy that those who undermine the country have had in mind for sometime now.
The crash in 29' was caused, admittedly, by the federal reserve.
After WW II we learned of the fascist coup that was stopped by General Butler although the coup was not front line news due to the fact that the media is a part of the fascist group, they owned 25 or more of the countries largest and most read papers as well as radio and television.
people should know that media is not for and by the people, it is for and by corps(e) or elites who are a part of the scam which gives us war for peace, debt as money and ultimately the debasing of all that nature provides as well as perpetual strife within society.
The godless are led to believe they are of and from ape, why should they act any different if they are told to deny the spirit/purpose and live life to consume and waste.
Anyone who understands true history, economics and is not lead by dogma/ego or opinions of those who fill their want and wallets from the wealth transfer devices/mechanisms which are in business solely due to people not understanding the fact that we do not have spare or free time if we wish to be free.
To many people are wanting nothing but free time and entertainment, they are all ego and need the government to use citizens to help them steal the resources of other countries to pay the debts the people who incurred so as they can be amused and entertained and believe that artificial sweeteners, food additives and man-made chemicals are good to consume.
Truly the people need a Doctor not a lawyer or any other who is actually on the same side as the corps(e), living to steal the spirit from the people so as it can be alive, raping the earth and keeping mankind enslaved to material and lies.
Is there a Doctor in the Whitehouse? No, but there should be if the nations people, collectively, had more intelligence then ignorance. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 11:25:01 AM | QUOTE: There's nothing to support that non-interventionism would not work and much to support that interventionism has been a massive failure.
He supports an efficient and strong military based upon defense and the guidelines set forth in the Constitution. Not a pacifist in any sense of the word but a realist of what our true responsibilities are and are not. He holds there are just causes for war whether attacked first or not.
^^^ Yes I agree with all of that above. Ironically I (as personally a Social-Democrat) found myself agreeing with much or practically all of Ron Paul's foreign policy ideas. It's on other issues where I differ a lot with him. But of course his common sense and reality-based approach to US foreign policy was and is anathema to today's GOP and much of its "base". Interventionism, for instance the "neo-con" idea that America somehow should be "remaking" the world in something more like its own image, clearly has been an ongoing massive failure. Disaster really. Ask the families of the 4,100 dead soldiers, the 20,000 + maimed or paralyzed soldiers, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian dead and maimed, 2 million displaced, and so on. Interventionism / military adventurism, with ideology as one of the driving factors, is a nightmare in practice ... if not in theory as well. That having been said there is such a thing as a "just war". Personally however, I just think the last truly necessary and definitely "just" war the US was involved in was WWII. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 11:33:44 AM |
It's on other issues where I differ a lot with him.
Just for my personal benefit of hearing a point of view, what are those? | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 12:18:15 PM | Msg57, well, as I said I agree almost wholly with his ideas on foreign policy and non-interventionism, particularly what he's stated about Iraq, about Israel (foreign aid to Israel for example), Iran (I agreed with his voting against the Rothman-Kirk Resolution along with Kucinich), as well as opening up trade with Cuba. However I'm completely against withdrawal from the UN, ICC, WTO, NATO, etc. I believe we have to , as the world's sole remaining superpower (for the moment), work with the world and be part of it completely.
Paul's in favor of free trade, frankly I'm in favor of fair trade. I'm also not with him on immigration issues -- personally I favor either an Obama-like "path to citizenship" plan, or amnesty; I also strongly disagree with him on taking away birthright citizenship (children born to "illegals" inside the US).
Re-opening more investigations into 9/11/01 ; I thought that was a fine idea, although I agree with him that 9/11 was not in reality any sort of gov't "conspiracy".
However I don't support smaller gov't , in fact I'm in favor of much bigger gov't, universal healthcare (or something approaching it), progressive taxations, and so forth. I don't support abolishing the IRS or income tax or the Fed. I also never could see how, realistically, he was going to put the US "back on the gold standard". I don't oppose fed'l gov't interference into the market process either, as Paul does.
I'm for the (continued) complete prohibition of prayer, religion, etc from public schools, and I was and am definitely against Paul's "We the People" act for example. I agreed with his vote against the "Securing Adolescents From Exploitation Online Act of 2007" and with his stances on free speech and the Internet in general.
I'm in favor of much stronger gun control (preferably handgun bans in big cities for example -- such as some of us want here in Chicago); obviously that would be a major bone of contention between Paul and I. I agreed with his voting against the Patriot Act of course, against domestic surveillance, and against any reintroduction of a draft , however I'm in favor of affirmative action continuing and definitely am in favor of continued freedom of choice for women (another major difference there).
I'm strongly in favor of stem cell research (as I think Paul was for the most part as well -- or he was at least open to it), but I feel the US should completely abolish the death penalty at both the state and fed'l levels. I agree with him on legalizing marijuana at least for medicinal purposes and definitely ending the so-called "war on drugs". I'm in favor personally of seeing the "electoral college" gotten rid of, sooner rather than later, but I think Paul was against that. So basically I feel I disagree with him on too many important issues to have been able to support him. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 9:39:22 PM | Nero...
You have much to learn my dear young man!
So much!
Maybe in time...you will see that ALL of Ron Paul's ideals were just what this country needed. But from your words..I think you would like to see an NAU. But remember with socialism..comes greed..and usually only those in power get the goodies while the rest suffer!
And please do not try to take away my God! I will fight you tooth and nail! This country was started with God in mind....One nation under God......
IMHO You definitely are a socialist! To each his own! But I for one..am a Constitutionalist..the BEST document EVER written for a country's government standards. And many other countries adapted theirs' to our Constitution!!
Your words...(even though you are very ummm cute by the way)...make me cringe!
You do not remember the cold war with Russia.( I do!) What you have said..would have put you in jail for being a traitor back then.....
But many soldiers lost their lives so that you could think what you want....( so speak it...I won't stop you.....)
Because they swore an oath to the Constitution....too bad they do not live up to it today and stand up to this tyranny! Yet some have and are jailed for doing so.
How about watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DggGZqYebrQ
You also should watch a video about England since they gave up their guns! They are now wishing they had not. You take a little bit of rights away for a little bit of security and you lose it ALL!...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQOUi6ec
And here is an Irish interview that was NEVER shown on American TV..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is
Let me know what you think later. By the way...I love to banter!!! LOL! | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 10:01:54 PM | To JohnBonomolo...
I have a challenge for you.....copy and paste the law that states that we the people have to pay taxes on earned income that supports Education, etc.
If a judge could not show it in court and the jury found a gentleman NOT GUILTY of not paying taxes....I don't see you coming up with the written law...because...
THERE IS NO WRITTEN LAW!!!!
Why would so many IRS agents leave the agency..stating they could not steal from the American citizens anymore..because they ...themselves..could not find the written law,... and start their own national groups to help people who are fighting the IRS??? | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 10:37:10 PM | Thanks Xen, very well articulated and insightful.
I am for more of his stated policies than are you but of course I was raised a true Conservative so lesser government is more in my stream.
I'd love to see some way for health care to be available for all but he did make sense to me that insurance for what insurance is intended would make it more affordable as well as the health care services provided. It can't be denied that there are people who can't afford food so something has to be provided as an option for their care.
He did cite some examples where some of the agreements under trade pacts have not been fair to the US... one was how the WTO demanded elimination of taxing practices that actually leveled the competitive balance for the US where we then found ourselves again at a disadvantage. To me there is logic to allowing businessmen to do business among themselves.
He did point me to the true definition of Inflation. Rather than rising prices due to various factors, I learned it actually was an inflation of paper bills printed by The Fed which in turn devalues the dollar meaning goods and services must cost more. I do not understand what supports the dollar bill. I have read where economists liken our printing of unbacked dollars to total collapse of past empires. I have so much more to learn about his ideas of the Fed and the IRS.
Most definitely his ideas regarding foreign interventionism leading to cause and effect theories of terrorism as well as it's extreme growth in dangerous national debt seem very apparent to me.
Again there are many facts of counterpoint for me to find, but so much of his beliefs seem to come from a place of timeless logic.
Again Xen, thanks so much for your valuable input. I appreciate it greatly. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 8:19:09 AM | ^^ itechman you're welcome, thank you as well. Interesting for me as well to read other viewpoints.
QUOTE: And please do not try to take away my God! I will fight you tooth and nail! This country was started with God in mind....One nation under God......
IMHO You definitely are a socialist! To each his own! But I for one..am a Constitutionalist..
^^ I don't have the power to take away your God nor does any person or any political theory; your relationship with your God is between you and he (or It). I'd define myself as a social-democrat. I was a democratic socialist (more "revolution"-minded than reform & work w/in the system-minded) back when I was in my 20's; but I realize now how unrealistic that is. And although I've paid great attention to and admire a lot of aspects of Chavez's revolution in Venezuela for example, I see now that I also dislike certain aspects of it when I see it in practice (and he was, or is, pretty much a democratic-socialist, more or less). However I've never been a Communist. And yes, I'm lucky we're not in the America of the 1930's, or even early 50's I suppose; or I'd likely get into trouble. However my family wasn't even here in that time; in fact they were living a (largely communal-type of) hardscrabble existence in a remote and mountainous village in southern Italy at that time, having recently been bombed out by the Americans and Brits (and then invaded by Germans) and barely having any food at all. So I can read about what happened in America in those years, the Communist "scares" and so on, but I can't really relate to it , on a personal level. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 8:46:17 AM | God gave us free will and guidance for how to correctly use it. Everything in at least the New Testament is personal... between you and Him. God grants no man power over another in His name nor grants any power to any man over you in His name. Judge not lest ye be judged yourself. God never sought to impose himself on governance and the Founders never sought to impose God into governance.
We see today the "Perverters of Christianity"... those who seek to regulate and impose morality through government. Many have been in the news as we've seen. Pastors, priests, evangelists that don't preach the word of God and spread the message of personal responsibility but those who have attained great wealth and power by interpreting it and building influential coalitions to impose their own worldly ambitions into government. God does not need a Falwell destroying Homosexuality nor a Hagee annihilating Islam nor a Wright defeating the white man... He can do just fine on his own.
When your politicians say they are "giving you God" or governing in "the name of God" that's a serious problem because that is not their job. God never gave that job to them and doesn't want them to have it. When you need someone else to work your faith and deeds for you, you then have to question your own relationship with Him and take your own personal responsibility and spread faith with your works.
BTW the Founders only means of spreading Democracy as stated in The Constitution is by example but not through imposition. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 8:51:22 AM | | wow, nicely stated itech! Good job as always! | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 11:09:33 AM | http://youtube.com/watch?v=CijQzcSnd4c
What is tremendous and truly a "Change" is expressed within the first few moments of this speech to the "We the People".
Dr Ron Paul has been invited to participate in the campaign, the movement that gives people true power as to the global elites, we the people are the product/chattel when in truth we should be the voice that is the government.
All candidates with the exception of Dr Ron Paul are representative of Corps(e) and niche groups not people as a whole, more and more are waking to this truth and two play on this to further separate people as a whole, they use race and gender as tools.
The truly non-ignorant know that by having any form of the old guard in office is ultimately detrimental towards people as it has been since the elites have implemented so many wealth transfer systems which they control and use them in concert to defraud and enslave the majority who have been molded to become materialists, living to deny spirit and toiling for things/stuff and "idol" time for one's ego.
Our lack of production and gain of consumption is the death of innocent people around the world and the destruction of much resources due to the fact that so many who are living within the illusion and the fake economy produce nothing of value and exchange it for that which is essential at the expense and the loss of all.
At least with Dr Ron Paul, the ears are open in Washington as well as the mind and more change can come. My opinion is one that regions, even communities, have to build unique economies and be conservative and cautious, not risking the lives and the futures of others for sake of false material gain.
Many industries are simply running so as to steal time/thought or ultimately spirit from people who if they did not waste their time and riches on and in the wealth transfer devices/mechanism, would not be so ignorant as to allow a few with no morals nor spirit, to amass so much false wealth and power/control over the masses. People need only stop supporting Hollywood which is the celebrity scam which is born of the royal scam which is born of the fear based systems that originally were meant to bring civility and community to the forefront of the "We the People". Instead, these systems are controlled by those who wish to control the people and they have debased them as they have debased the air, water, food, our exchange system and everything else.
To place a vote for any of the elitist candidates is to vote in favor of usury/slavery and continue with the racket that gives us debt as money, war as peace, lies as truth and the promotion of living with a false purpose which dictates that we destroy the earth and all the essentials as well as worship dolls and merchandise over that which is real and akin to us all, human beings.
It pains me to no end that so many are so willingly ignorant and unable to grasp such simple truths that show without a reason of a doubt that the CFR and those affiliated with it are not citizens first nor are they American first. Simply put, they are employees within a movement that goes against mankind and favors corporations or corps(e) over people. Just like the fiat money they peddle and the corrupted central banking scam, they are fiat or fake as well.
Those who are awake and reaching out to people will continue to do so as will the peons attack the messengers and the message and try to keep people ignorant of the fact that, corporations and employees are not people nor do they have the best interest of people nor the world at heart, they are selfish and they are lost within material existence which is a lie, temporary.
Through their very why of living, they are committing suicide and murder while trying so hard to convince others that hate, destruction, manipulation and ignorance are the traits and the attributes that serve the best interest of people and the planet.
Surely we must admit, those who are supporting socialist agendas, ultimately fascist ideals, are one and the same. They are not human, they are fiat, fake, in that they are admittedly taking on a title that states they are a unique product-line, or better yet, a tool that is representative of nothing more then ego's, theories, opinions and other temporary things and against that which is eternal and undeniable. They show they have bias which is not in the best interest of all, their charge is unique and one that places emphasis on dualistic ideals, division rather then unity. All people deserve lodgings/shelter, food and fuel and other essentials, this is what should come from the work of all people, this should be a given when we are born. All of the other crap that is associated to social activities and commerce are at present, corrupted, debased from purpose and control in a manner as to feed the wealth transfer mechanisms which are ultimately used to control people and society as a whole.
Last words, Think of things in this example in respect to the current global situation.
We the people are headed for a brick wall which could mean the end to us all.
We have those who are most intelligent steering the ship and as well, we have those who are trying to destroy the plane (materialists/atheists/fascists/elitists) and who are poisoning the food, the water, the environment, reeking havoc on the passengers as we fly.
The pilots are announcing messages to let the passengers know that we are in for trouble unless we adjust our path (purpose, cause/effect) and we need cooperation between all the passengers but we have so many ignorant with us who are screaming they want a better seat, complaining that one has a better seat then them, they want to move or they want others to be thrown off the plane because they look different. They bicker about what the in-flight movie is going to be and the things that are trivial are promoted as important by the fiat passengers as they like to get things riled up so as they are not detected as the frauds they are.
In short, the true passengers who earned and have a ticket do not hear the call to arms and all the while the fiat passengers, those who stole tickets are gaining control of the plane and the passengers are no longer passengers, they are becoming hostages.
Merry Christmas! Want to buy some toys? | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 1:35:05 PM |
We the people are headed for a brick wall which could mean the end to us all.
People hear these things and believe Chicken Little has come to call. As though there's some pre-ordained eternal destiny reserved for the US that won't allow it to fall. That good times and bad times are cyclical and we'll surge upwards and hit bumps later down the road only to repeat the cycle. If you'll notice for the last 50 years our times of prosperity last shorter and our times of turmoil lower and longer. There is no destiny of eternal success that means that destructive policies for the sake of the greed of the few can continue and we're all going to be just fine. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 2:12:10 PM | | ^^ I agree. Reckless military adventurism , for example, simply cannot go on forever. Look at the costs (money alone -- not counting blood) involved in Iraq. Eventually they're simply not going to be able to afford anymore. If they don't cease and desist because things such as "pre-emptive" invasions are totally glaringly unjust and illegitimate, then they will have to cease based on cold hard facts : they can't afford it indefinitely; it will further hurt the economy here in America for the regular people when a (further) destabilized Middle East causes oil speculation to go even more through the roof; and frankly eventually they will run thin on (volunteer) military. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 2:38:34 PM | | If Ron Paul is on the ballot, he has my vote come November. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 2:54:34 PM | .
he doesnt need to be on the ballot, just write him in.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:49:42 PM | I think Obama and McCain aren't too concerned about the national debt, because they know the fix for that is a North American Union and a new North American currency(whether its called the Amero or something else). Once those things are in place, they will be able to afford all kinds of new wars well into the future.  | |
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Posted: 6/6/2008 10:08:03 PM | This country was started with God in mind....One nation under God......
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umm that country was founded on slavery, rebellion , murder, theft. piracy , gambling, gun running, the list could go on forever
god was the least of the excuses to form a country
the british , spanish and french never came here to find god or to spread the word of god, they came here to find gold, gold is religions true god
in their search and greed for gold they slaughtered millions of people, starved entire tribes raped murdered forced into slaveery,
cmon you dont actually believe that " one country under god crap do you? | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 2:40:03 AM | Is Ron Paul's "revenge" his unleashing of a mindless hoard of followers that parrot his every word and that support any idea of his...no matter how discredited?
Just wondering... | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 5:36:43 AM |
One nation under God
Even though that phrase did not originate until 1892. Remember that Colonists came to America to escape Theocratic rule. The Founding Fathers were mostly Godly men but they did not place religion at the context of the creation of the United States... specifically did not.
When The Constitution and it's timeless ideals are discredited, then the United States is and always has been a mirage. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 8:50:50 AM |
Is Ron Paul's "revenge" his unleashing of a mindless hoard of followers that parrot his every word and that support any idea of his...no matter how discredited?
Just wondering...
No, the followers or people, are the leaders of the revolution. You see, corporations and government are becoming one and the same. Employees are citizens and citizens are peasants under the rules of law that are enforced by the fascist or softer form of fascism known as Corporatism.
The mindless are those who are forever attacking people as it seems those who are against Ron Paul are against people as the revolution is about power going back to the people in lieu of being usurped.
It surely seems that those who are in favor of a fascist state are surely employees or better yet peons as they are spouting off and attacking people.
They seem to worship dolls and other merchandise over people and they are so idiotic in their way of thinking that they actually believe war brings peace, lies are truth and ignorance is wisdom.
It is obvious that those who are so vehemently opposed to freedom and power for people that they take to childish insult, rhetoric, accept biased opinion/ego rather then fact and basically prove time and time again that any understanding they have about history, the economy and the world in general, is essentially biased information that is spewed as truth to cover that which is reality.
There are fewer online that are opposed to people then in favor of people as is learned through online polling. It seems, information and communication online is far more rewarding and online offers access to information that corporations and government (one and the same) fail to introduce to the minds of those they usurp.
Anyway, it is truly pathetic how fascist sympathizers online act/pretend to be people when in truth, they are more employee or peon then civilian or neighbor to true human beings.
Those who enjoy fiat living with all the wealth and spirit transaction systems are doomed as the depression and hyper-inflation approach.
When money (debt) becomes scarce, all those employed and earning a living via industries that are solely reliant upon ignorant people having riches to waste, will see the demise of their industry and the loss of earnings and jobs, soup lines for actors/fiat people as well as all the other fools who live via ego, materialism and superficial ideals. These are those who are ignorant of truth and they will suffer.
Many tow the same line as those who attack people through the Ron Paul campaign, these fools are much like the peons as, they are so hypnotized by celebrity, materialism, superficiality, that they do not understand that how and why they live is completely based upon their being ignorant and that ignorance will be their death sentence.
The US is not controlled by people and people, in all truth, have little if any say in any matters that affect them and the future as the nation is run by corporatists behind the scenes and this is mainstream knowledge within the revolution.
The ignorant actually think the election is real and the puppet candidates are of the for the people, nothing could be further from the truth.
Fiat money always collapses and the national debt is so far gone that the nations debt around the world is having severe ramifications the worlds economy, ultimately the cost and availability of food.
Building highways to move plastic crap and stuff is no way to prepare for what is to come. The puppet leaders are working to poison the nation as is attested in the quality and the quantity of food and water.
These whom the attackers of people seem to worship, offering up their time to promote as well as donate their time to use childish insults and spewing of rhetoric to harm people, shows where the hearts and minds of the attackers are, they are with corporations and usury.
In truth, they have gone as far as to utilize Bots to posts simple little insults that are meant to detour people from coming together. Those who attack people are akin to those Bots.
All the employee firsters and others whom have loyalties and who pretend to be peasants, will get their just reward. Those who have no morals whom they promote have no desire to provide a comfortable and easy life for those who also have no integrity.
Just as they vampire off of society, they will do the same to the abettors as well, it comes when the market collapses and the ignorant peons who are actually doing thier dirty work within the US will suffer horrendously.
I hope those who attack us people in this site are like many of those who are akin to you and are working out of a International call center.
There are many at work who share the opinions of those who attack people with childish insult who get a few dollars an hour to post.
What is learned about those people is that they pretend to be people or citizens, their views support tyranny and usurping and they generally spew rhetoric, hate and lies and rarely more to say then a few words. Anyway, I feel for the peons too as they are going to get it a lot worse.
They have to hide the fact that they are traitors to man and they must avoid the wrath of their owners who wish them to be quiet about their dirty deeds. With the depression coming and the spreading of war into the US, dividing people or attempting to divide and cause fear, will be bad for people but a lot worse for employees.
Sorry no time to edit so the word cops can have some fun if I messed up, they take great pleasure in pointing out fault in spelling but they fail to acknowledge truth and they are often presenting false ideals/meanings as well as lies whioch are far worse then little errs in letters.
People Power not Peon Power silly Rabbi, Kicks (insults) are for elites.
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| Ron Paul's Revenge
Posted: 6/11/2008 12:27:15 AM | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ez5robAWmu4
RP on Obama and "Change".
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f-jjE6nNC3c
Mini-Convention to rival GOP, attending is sure to be true patriotic members of society, not the new debased version of republicans that are fiat civilians, employees parading as citizens.
Corp influence is ruining the country, usurping the citizens/peasants and in truth, it is running it by owning candydates, mindless peon puppets,, sell-outs, not people.
RP is still in the race and will be speaking away from all the fraud and manipulation, where there is clear abuse of power and a total disregard for the democratic purpose.
The GOP and the neocon-artists are soon nothing more then a grim reminder of what comes when the masses are lulled into fiat living, worshiping TV and believing pretend people. You know, those who make up the majority of those who wear fancy hats and have big titles, who in truth, merely read lines and follow orders from above. Oh, I am not talking about spiritual communication from above, quite the opposite to these people, GOD is GOLD OIL DRUGS, yes they serve G.O.D. alright... 
merry christmas... Want to BUY SOME TOYS ?
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