| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/1/2008 7:28:52 AM | December 21st, 2012 is not a "random date" to end a Mayan calandar. It was specifically chosen because this is the date that the Earth will be in the exact center of the galaxy. Their culture attributed a great deal of importance to this date. Indeed, it is so important that they spent many, many years developing mathematical formulas to determine the movement of the heavenly bodies, all with remarkable accuracy.
It can be the seen as the end of one cycle, and the beginning of a new- much like New Year's Day celebrates our transition from one orbit around the sun to the next.
There was doom and gloom predicted for January 1, 2000 which did not occur. And I suspect strongly that there will be no catastrophic event associated with this date either. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/1/2008 5:31:29 PM | Actually, the Mayan calendar goes on a hell of a lot longer than 2012. It's just this smaller cycle ends then.
http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/1/2008 6:22:00 PM |
Actually, the Mayan calendar goes on a hell of a lot longer than 2012. It's just this smaller cycle ends then.
This is true, but of course, most people are referring to the end of the long count. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/1/2008 7:19:49 PM |
Actually, the Mayan calendar goes on a hell of a lot longer than 2012. It's just this smaller cycle ends then. This is true, but of course, most people are referring to the end of the long count.
Yeah, but all the mystical coincident events are horsesh!t, and the guys built a long-term repeating calendar. And? 
Anyone want to take my bet that the world will still be here in much the same form on January 1, 2013? Money, goods, or services will work for me. :) (and I'm giving you over a week "slop" time) | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/1/2008 9:22:02 PM | | I can remember back in '89 hearing something about this, but it was more that one day we'd have the weather they have in S. America and vice versa. Nothing catastrophic was mentioned, in the Apocalyptic form. I believe like many it'll come ands go, and nothing will happen, but there is something coming, just not catastrophic as many think. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/5/2008 12:04:13 PM | How did we get on this tangent of the world ending? That ain't gonna happen, folks!
This is meant to be about the polar shift. Not Mayan maybe's. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/5/2008 1:38:30 PM |
How did we get on this tangent of the world ending? That ain't gonna happen, folks!
This is meant to be about the polar shift. Not Mayan maybe's.
Many people believe that a pole shift will occur in 2012, which is the same year that the Mayan long count cycle ends. That's why we're discussing it. I personally don't think that a pole shift will happen on that day, but the Mayan calendar is relevant to the idea of a pole shift because of the coinciding date. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/6/2008 4:58:11 PM |
How did we get on this tangent of the world ending? That ain't gonna happen, folks!
This is meant to be about the polar shift. Not Mayan maybe's.
So how do we get to this pole shift? Is there ANY logic or science to support that expectation? Don't answer - the correct response is "no". That said, the "Mayan maybe's" are at least mathematically based. This gives them MORE credibility, not less!
What do I expect from the Mayan calendar? Precisely nothing.
What do I expect regarding a "pole shift"? Less than nothing. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/6/2008 7:44:49 PM | It is also mentioned by the Mayans, and in the Chinese I Ching.
It will be interesting to see what this is about.
Einstein also mentioned it.
Hopefully it isnt true, because if it is, a lot of us will die... | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/12/2008 12:06:16 PM | I understand that FRIENDLIONE. I have been following the thread. But the preoccupation with the end is nigh and all that . . . . it is a tangent.
It's happened before. It'll happen again. The polar shift, that is. These things happen. Just cuz humans haven't seen it doesn't mean that it is the end for us. We place ourselves far too high. Also, while I am moaning, how many people know that we a re in a calmness in weather that the planet hasn't enjoyed for a while , if ever? It usually swings between hot and cold, so the scientists in this book I am reading have suggested. With global warming etc etc etc I think we have more to worry about than this polar shift. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/12/2008 1:59:16 PM |
December 21st, 2012 is not a "random date" to end a Mayan calandar. It was specifically chosen because this is the date that the Earth will be in the exact center of the galaxy.
They should try the math again. Our solar system is far from the center of the galaxy and isn't going to be there in 4 years.
Of course, if it does manage to travel 25000 light years in 4 years (only 6250x the speed of light!), then it will be the end of the world since we'll likely be in a supermassive black hole. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/21/2008 4:59:58 PM | | NOT the end of the world. Go to the NATIVE SPIRITUALITY Forum. I explained myself there. Earth CHANGES, but not the complete destruction of all life. Have some faith, guys! Power of the mind & positive thinking can work wonders! | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/21/2008 7:49:25 PM | | Check out youtubes Nibiru the 12th planet, annanakai,nephelum, all these told there. I spent 4 days learning much much more. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 8:50:46 PM | I figured out why all the serious scientists leave the Science/Philosophy forum.
It's because of all the paranoid conspiracy-theorist neo-Luddites.  | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/28/2008 5:10:20 PM | And in 2000 all technology was suppose to go haywire!
haha whatever | |
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| 2012 Pole Shift
Posted: 7/29/2008 8:05:48 PM | | Not quite, Haley's comet comes around every 76 years, unless it encounters something to perturb it which has not happened yet. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/29/2008 8:08:02 PM | | According to researchers, the pole does shift, or at least has in the past. But it does so over the course of millions of years, it doesn't suddenly happen on a given date. Of course it is moving now, like a slowly precessing top, but I don't think that is the shift the researchers are talking about. Now the magnetic pole can suddenly flip and bounce all over the planet, they don't understand why. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/31/2008 10:08:41 PM | I heard that the Poles were going to invade Germany in retaliation for WW2.
(Just kidding, no need to start WW3 over a bad pun)
<div class="quote">I believe the date is Oct 12, 2012 - though I may be off. I've been introduced to this date -
That would be Columbus Day. The Mayan Calendar ends on the day of the Winter Solstice.
<div class="quote"> Ok.... 2012 has come and gone. What new date is set to spell our doom?
The Mayan Calendar is a cycle of 144,000 days. It repeats. Only some people suggest it as doomsday. The thread title referred to a reversal of the magnetic poles of the earth. If the pole shift occurs on that day, it might be several years before we all die, or "Praise God!" we might actually survive it!
<div class="quote"> the pole shift whould be measurable even now to hit that 4 year deadline.
Wow, I thought scientists didn't know what forces we might be against within the "dark rift" of the Milky Way, and have only speculated the causes of previous pole shifts. How much research did you do to ascertain this?
Does your research concur with the current measurements of the magnetic field, and do you think that it might turn into a sharper parabola as the day itself nears?
<div class="quote"> I've found no other credible evidence of this pole shift. Scientists don't en masses hide data, so why isn't this showing up in the scientific literature?.
I suppose they are hiding their research, because even without it, there is already plenty of evidence from Nasa regarding the position of the Solar System relative to the Galactic Median, and there haven't been any space probes sent in the right direction to detect the forces we will incur. So why do you think scientists would be interested in developing theories about an event when they have no foreseeable way of gathering any more data than is already available?
<div class="quote"> Dec 21, 2012 is the date when our sun will be crossing the galactic equator..
According to my sources, who rely on Nasa, we crossed the Galactic (mass) Equator in 1998. Of course, it could be the Galatic Electromagnetic Equator that we cross on Dec 21, 2012. I am told it will take about 20 years to cross the "dark rift," unless we bounce off the Electromagnetic Equator, and never cross it. Again, we have no way of making scientific studies, so guesses are the best we can do.
<div class="quote"> The idea that global warming is a result of the CO2 emissions from our vehicles is a scam created to collect more 'shadow profit' from the population in using guilt and fear. Unless they have a plan to stop the sun from moving through space towards the energy band at the galactic equator, they won't be able to stop global warming in the slightest.
Probably the best hypothesis on Global Warming that I ever heard. You are guessing, and you know you are guessing. It couldn't be science, because there is no possible way to know what the effect will be. | |
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 7/31/2008 11:39:38 PM | On December 21,2012,
as the Magnetic north creeps out of Canada into Siberia, I will launch my plan
and take over the US, because they will be all confused over the humble jumble of what is going on, and then once the US is mine , I will take over the rest of the world, and it will be called Canada, and all the countries that are named will become Provinces,
and that is why it will be the end of the world as we know it because there will be one person that has taken over the entire earth which has never been done before,
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| 2012 pole shift
Posted: 8/2/2008 1:37:05 AM | it's depressing reading some posts here.
the general ignorance of the masses is .. sobering to say the least.
the earth will be in the centre of the milky way?
the magnetic shift takes millions of years??
the mayans knew the world would end in 2012 and therefor ended their calender on this date?
am i in arkansas? who are you people and where did you go to school?? | |
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| 2012 Pole Shift
Posted: 8/15/2008 1:49:39 PM | I'm not sure I believe in a physical Pole Shift, although I believe a magnetic one is much more likely (and it's a more accepted theory). There is evidence that the Earth's magnetic field is weakening. There are are actually maps that show the strength of the Earth's magnetic field in different parts of the world and the weak parts are getting bigger.
There is considerable evidence that it has happened int the past a number of times before and we are definitely overdue. The problem with a magnetic shift is that for the poles to "flip" there has to be a "zero point", in other words a temporary period of time when the Earth has NO magnetic field. The Earth's magnetic field protects the Earth from harmful radiation from the sun.
For the record: Do I believe that Dec 21, 2012 is a significant date? Yes.
Do I believe a magnetic pole shift could happen on this date? Yes. | |
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| 2012 Pole Shift
Posted: 8/15/2008 3:48:40 PM | I think the world ended a lot sooner for the Mayans than 2012. So it's a safe bet to max out all my credit cards in Dec of 2012 then??
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