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 ~~BP~~

Joined: 9/15/2006
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Posted: 5/19/2008 7:31:53 AM
Icon, yes I think I must have decent genetics - I've only been training for 2 years - but don't sell yourself short. I think most non-juicing people can get to a decent physical state, and then genetics sort of helps with that last bit of fine tuning, and good genetics might assist them in seeing results quicker. You just have to keep tweaking diet, training, cardio and rest/recovery to find that sweet spot that works for *you*. It can be a lot of trial and error, but heck, the journey's half the fun, right?


I cant put on weight in a calorie deficit.
What does that mean? Are you trying to bulk and cut at the same time?
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Posted: 5/19/2008 8:18:21 AM
These "genetics", "metabolism", body-type angles "medicalize" excess weight (and everything else), allowing people to victimize themselves, to absolve themselves of responsibility for their bodies, go all nerdy/techy obsessive/complicated, and, best of all, spend money, LOTS of money (Mission Accomplished).

Screw it all.

Excess calories = excess weight

Calorie deficit = weight loss.

Exercise to be fit, not to lose weight.

And above all, you must, daily, obsess about those protein deficits!
 Parkour613

Joined: 2/21/2008
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Posted: 5/19/2008 2:38:50 PM
Is protein deficit really a big deal?
 satx78218

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Posted: 5/19/2008 3:14:42 PM
Europeans laugh at the Americans' obsession with protein (as if protein deficiency were huge US public health problem) and Americans' obsession with germs (businesses fear-mongering to sell anti-biotic products to consumers). Euros have neither obsession and do just fine.

http://www.time-to-run.com/nutrition/rda.htm

Not that ANYTHING from FDA is worth 2 cents. :)

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/3/855S

2 - 3 ounces "net" of protein/day from all sources aggregated will do just fine.
 Iconoclast v.2.0

Joined: 5/18/2008
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Posted: 5/21/2008 4:39:44 PM

What does that mean? Are you trying to bulk and cut at the same time?


Sort of, but that doesn't really describe me. I am more focused on body composition than most 'dieters', but I am not a bodybuilder.

My goal is to maintain lean muscle mass while losing fat. I have a goal to put on 10 pounds of muscle in 12 months, so far my results have been disappointing. I pace myself to lose 1 pound a week and so far I have had much more success with that.

Maybe when I reach my goals, I can focus on building a sexy back like yours, BP. I lose all my gains every time I take a break. I still lift because I enjoy it. If I didn't, I'd lose too much lean tissue. It keeps my spine straight and gives me better posture. Not to mention the endorphins.
 simmering59

Joined: 2/2/2007
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Posted: 5/21/2008 7:04:48 PM
tuna or hard boiled eggs
 ~~BP~~

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Posted: 5/21/2008 9:00:43 PM
My guess would be that you're trying to do too many things at the same time. Recompositioning is hard, I'm not saying it can't be done, but I find it simpler to stick with dieting off fat, then bulking up for some muscle, but do it in cycles.

I think that for a (natural) woman, putting on 10lbs of muscle in a year is a tough prospect, if not almost impossible. Just focus on one goal at a time.

If you want, I can send you some good links on the "simultaneous" recompositioning stuff, but I have to warn you, it's brutal.
 Iconoclast v.2.0

Joined: 5/18/2008
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Posted: 5/21/2008 9:16:27 PM
It's too hard for me to cycle, and I wont try anything but natural.

My injury still has me sidelined so I've been reading the Rippetoe bible and playing with dumbbells. Good stuff.


Go ahead and brutalize me, lol. I'd love to talk with you.
 Christopher93

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Posted: 5/28/2008 6:16:20 PM

you dont have the testosterone, AND you're sensitive to creatine, how do you do it without gear?


Well you aren't limited to creatine monohydrate either. I mean, it works great for me but there are alternatives that don't have the same intestinal issues.

A friend/client of mine is getting really good results from Creatine-EC (and he is the stereotypical 90-pound weakling). At an imposing 5' 3" I've brought him in two years from 92 pounds @ 7% bodyfat to 107 pounds @ 6% bodyfat. The last 4 pounds went on really quick with the Creatine-EC.

It doesn't pull water out of your intestines the way creatine monohydrate does, so the bloating and/or diarrhea should be a non-issue.

Hope this helps!

Christopher93
 Iconoclast v.2.0

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Posted: 5/28/2008 9:56:38 PM
Hey Chris

I just dont like it. The side effects that I get are not THAT bad. It doesnt effect my stomach.

When I have used creatine monohydrate I get really dehydrated and it makes me puffy. I feel it in my hands, my rings get tight. It's prolly a chick thing. I drink gallons of water and I still feel yukky when I use it. Honestly, I just dont need it. It was an experiment. In fact, I'm going to give it to someone who could use it.

I let the dude at AtLarge talk me into buying Results. I dont know why I let him do that, all it has in it is creatine monohydrate, dextrose (I dont use sugar), beta alanine, and beta hydroxy methylbutyrate.

I'm a sucker, lol, but most of his products have been awesome. I swear by Nitrean, so normally I trust his judgement. One bad purchase out of dozens doesnt bother me too much. I might even open it and try it, havent decided.
 ~~BP~~

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Posted: 5/29/2008 3:27:45 PM
Chris!!! AtLarge!!! Mason!!!!
 Iconoclast v.2.0

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Posted: 5/29/2008 4:42:03 PM
Chris is a hell of a salesman, aint he? lol

He patiently answers all my 31,489,313,491,483,918,431,587,432,574,887,430,784,937,348,743,809 noobie questions. I am positive that I am driving him crazy but he never shows it.

Love those guys. They have taught me so much.
 sjenner

Joined: 3/29/2008
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Posted: 6/1/2008 9:38:09 AM
A whey protein shake with creatine and glutamine and some carbs is a great post-workout drink to shed fat and recovery.

Usually have the shake with some oatmeal after my workouts.
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