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Posted: 5/15/2008 1:11:41 PM |
last accounting I heard, we would have enough oil for our own needs for thousands of years contained in our lands alone
Thousands of years? Where did you hear that? I'd like to buy some of that land. I'll let them drill 'till the cows come home... for a nominal fee. Seriously, though, I've heard our land holds about enough for about 2 months.
I wish we would turn internal to our own needs first and foremost and let the World fend for themselves...with us giving aid only when absolutlely needed to other Nations.
I take it you voted for Ron Paul, then? | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 1:47:03 PM | "America has for the most part... please see 'operative word'..'most' .... retaliated when we were hit first. "
When did any of the 9 countries I listed strike America?
"If you hate America.. petition your governments to ignore us and allow your militaries to keep us off your soil. We might get the message and leave everyone alone. "
Except your military is stronger than Nicaraguas military. How about you guys stop bombing villages, is that too much to ask? That you stop the slaughter of innocent civilians for perverse political purposes? | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 2:44:34 PM |
...and Michael Jackson
I know. After 'Off The Wall' it was all downhill from there. I'll take Al Green anyday! | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 4:30:25 PM | That you stop the slaughter of innocent civilians for perverse political purposes?
From what I keep reading in this forum that is perfect acceptable for most. I honestly think it gives so many America supporters ( I used to be one till I left the place and woke up ) some type of sick rush when they steal another piece of land from innocent people.
I wonder what they would think if they were the ones on the front lines ? It's like they say you can't justify a war unless you are willing to send your own son to die in it ? | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 10:22:51 PM | to those wishing we whould drill oil, look up EVERY geological oil pool in the us, most the easy to get oil is gone, mostly pumping at 10% or less of its compacity, most the deposits involve massive change. and when it takes more energy to extract the oil then it costs to sell the stuff it simply is a waste of money. and if oil is somewhat relitive to the price of energy, its not much of a win win. theres small pools here and there that nets only a month or two of consumption
keep in mind we used to be the BIGGEST exporters of oil | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 2:56:48 AM | Lets compile a list of all the bad things America have done in the past, then do one for the British because we two nations between us are most certainly guilty of everything we are accused of and much more besides. Best thing to do then is to take that list and file it away somewhere for inclusion in the history books. Thats what it is, history. We can't change that be we can change the future.
When America and the free world was attacked in 2001 then one of two things happened.
a) America and Great Britian, the two of greatest democracies on the planet stood up and declaired an end to terror by whatever means. We both stated to the world that we would take on the responsibility for ending terror around the world and true to our word that fight continues to this day.
Whatever the history books say about us prior to 9/11 those written after will know us as the nations who led the world to freedom. What we haven't done yet is started the war to win hearts and minds of those who at this time distrust or dispise us. Given both our histories, it is not hard to understand the motivations of those who hate us and what we stand for.
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b) The truth that the USA and Great Britian are peddlers in death became known to the world. Two military and economic superpowers that claimed to be the champions of freedom and democracy have both somehow elected leaders who both genocidal lunatics hell bent on power and money.
My money is on a)
Jedi Girl,
Sorry love, this is one world and we are all on it. No trying to get off. We are all in this together. The boundaries we once recognised as the limits of our countries no longer exist. We are closer to being united than at vany time in world history. Thats why we need the United Nations more than ever before.
The world awaits America taking up it's claim to be world leaders. There are 2.5 Million Somali's facing starvation due to American intervention in their country, there is genocide taking place elsewhere in the world, The Asian Sumami, the earthquakes in China, Bhurma, Hurricane Katrina and many many other opportunities to start the war to win hearts and minds are before us. It's time we took up the batton and did what we said we were going to do. Together. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 5:40:03 PM | jimmiex, I hear you and I agree to a point.
There is a very selfish mentality in the US, mainly because the system of things now, this capitalist system has gotten extreme and our technology has run rampant.
I think we need to move closer to socialism or some such thing ....something more communal. There are companies that are owned by the employees, there should be more. When giant corporations run things, they just don't care about the social fabric, but employee-ownded companies do and tend to make different decisions.
There is plenty of food, we export huge amounts of it all over the world, often to the detriment of the local producers and often putting them out of business as weve put local farmers out of business here. We have crazy agricultural policy, if we could somehow bring back more local production it would mean a lot more gas, vitalize a lot of communities, and actually when we buy food (most of it processed), very little goes to the grocer now and most of the cost is in the plastic, the packaging, shipping and marketing, etc. Once upon a time we had a lot of local communities where people didnt even own land, the whole town would sow and everyone would pitch in for the harvest communally. Values in people come with that ........and when no one does anything communal anymore, values come with that, too, such as you describe.
The electric car seems to be an answer, they're quiet, efficient, not polluting and have a lot less parts to service than a combustible engine.........and yes, a few limitations, but we have a solution if we want it.
There is nothing wrong with affluence, it just depends on what kind. The more incomes rise and the more affluence there is, the less children people have, its a great means for population control..... it's just that the affluence has to be spread out to a large middle class with a smaller number of poor and rich as exceptions, but the way it's going is that a middle class seems to be the exception and rich or poor the rule.
We live on a beautiful, bountiful planet where the means for a great life is possible for everyone. I do believe that and do think it is possible. It's just not going to happen with the way things are going........... they need to change and solutions are possible. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 9:06:18 PM | | yes i to wish a marketable ev whould come out, but it seems the only way to get them whould be from the guy who owns a shop who knows how to convert cars to ev so | |
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