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 indehills

Joined: 2/23/2008
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Posted: 6/23/2008 9:29:48 AM

My contention is this ;that NOT ONE man out of a thousand would refuse this offer under the circumstances; and that if both are into it,what's the problem anyway,if we are talking about 2 consenting adults?


1) Yes, there absolutely ARE men (and WAY more than one in a thousand) who would turn down sex on the first date. It's been so long for me that I'd go for it, but I'd also ask myself how many other first dates has she slept with. And if she would sleep with ME that easily, well...

2) If both people are into it, then no, there's no problem at all. We're all human beings, we all have certain needs, so why not go for it if you are in agreement.
 mthomjmark

Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 6/23/2008 12:28:44 PM
I would say no and to be frank I think your post is kind of annoying, saying all men are mindless idiots. I'm not.

I've tried hard to be a good guy; And this has happened to me on more than one occasion and I SAID NO.

Do you honestly think that a women that would jump into bed with me on the first date hasnt' done this a lot of times? I dont want a women that has had a lot of hands on her. I'm sorry I'm not going to sleep with someone I dont know. I'm not irresponsible.
Not all men are dogs in heat.
 FlaRebel

Joined: 5/2/2008
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Posted: 6/23/2008 12:50:51 PM
I would respectfully decline. I'm not going to belittle myself and bring myself down to that level. I have said before. I absolutely will not settle for less than what I want this time. A woman like that is absolutely NOT what I'm looking for. I am not trying to demean any one, but a woman that would do that doesn't really respect herself deep down inside. Just my 2 cents.
 JazzLover7

Joined: 4/1/2008
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Posted: 6/23/2008 12:53:39 PM
A gentleman who has his stuff together and half way good looking or better can and will turn down sex from a woman on the first date.

Your every day man is less likely to turn down sex, unless of course she is coyote ugly and even then it depends on how much he had to drink.

As the poster above said Not ALL men are dogs. Many, but not ALL.
 Neviah

Joined: 1/29/2007
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Posted: 6/23/2008 12:59:18 PM
OP, I would love to tell you that you are full of crap. I have denied two women sex on the first date. put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 Alienware Adam

Joined: 5/31/2007
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Posted: 6/23/2008 1:49:17 PM
I have hd sex, women usually ahve a lot of control in the dating process. Epecially early on. If they want sex who am I to say no? I'm an adult and often got no bones about it. I lvoe sex who doesn't? It hink its great when a girl unbuckles my belt and starts giving me a BJ or asks me if Iw ant to come to bed or tells me to make love to her. Its really great to get the sex over with so we don;t feel awkard and arecomfortable with eachother. And not always wondering when are we going to have sex? I hope she's not a prude! I reaklly enjoy satified the woman I am with and being satisfied. I;ve actually ended realtionships with women who were bad in bed. And any girl who has sex with me is definately getting a second date ebcuase I always want more. ia ctually don't like taking it slow. Its irritating, and I am at the age where I have had lots of sex and just expect more of it but want to be with the same person ina highly sexuala nd enjoyable relationship. I can't be with someone who is saving themselves for marriage. Becuase if the sex is not good or they are nto willing to try something new and see what works since everyone is differnt like snow flakes... It won't work.

A relationship is really just eating together having nice conversations and great sex. And being happy with that one person and enjoying yourself jsut being with them. Who can ask for more? You don't ahve to be into the same things. Should a gorl like G.I joes? Should a guy like Barnie dolls? Does it matter if I like House and you like Greys? We'll probabkly end up watching all of our shows together on DVD or ont he DVR anyway.

Why don't relationships work? becuase not enough sex is going on, people need their medecine! Not getting the medecine leads to finding the medecine from another source. Noone wants to be sick or feel alone. And tht leads to cheating which is horrible. Lack of communication. ok so you are not talkling about your feelings. Critisim.. stop ragging on me you are far from perfect you jerk! Nagging, drama, oMG she's crazy run away! And that's pretty much it.

So eat, druink, have sex 9wear a condom, nd be merry life is short!
 OutMind

Joined: 2/13/2007
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Posted: 6/23/2008 1:57:45 PM
I like to take it slow too. I have to at least get inside my apartment.
 life_of_leisure

Joined: 1/4/2007
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Posted: 6/23/2008 7:53:36 PM
> ...and [then] she asks you to spend the night.

The OP's scenario wouldn't pass the if-it-seems-too-good-to-be-true test.
I'd wonder where the hidden cameras are, or what she was gonna put in my drink, or any of a number of other possible cons.
 Traveling Man MS

Joined: 9/7/2006
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Posted: 6/23/2008 10:54:19 PM

Its like getting asked if I want a free tank of gas I aint turning it down lol.


Hell, I might just take the tank of gas. Seriously, if you add up the savings from free tanks of gas compounded in a good long-term mutual fund...........oh forget it, I'd have sex too.

I'd like to think that given the OP's original scenario with 1000 guys, if I turned the tables and had 1000 women ask me to have sex, I'd have sex with all but one. But she's be really special and I'd wait for the 3rd date like normal. Who knows, she might be the one!

I'm having enough difficulty getting one woman reply to one of my seriously clever messages. Seriously, they are really clever.
 TC6317

Joined: 8/8/2008
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Posted: 8/13/2008 4:26:44 PM
I have to hand it to you guys, I am actually surprised that there are men out there that do not expect sex on the first date. Personally I think it takes time to get to know each other before you jump into it. But I am glad to see there are decent guys still out there.
 winter_flower

Joined: 6/21/2008
Msg: 86
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Posted: 8/13/2008 4:37:47 PM
OP, you can't assume you can speak for all men. Although i give it to you that men are dramatically different from women, and that there are some things most men have in common, you cannot think that you know what every male on the planet would do in a given situation. We are all individuals and we have choices. I have seen some pretty mad stuff posted on these forums - one guy would apparently not even kiss anyone before they got all sorts of tests - and i give this as an extreme example - between that and promiscuity is a whole lot of shades of grey. Also one individual behaves differently at different times, with age, change of mood etc.
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Posted: 8/13/2008 10:25:50 PM
I have never had sex on a first date. (Not that the opportunity has presented itself all that often... Only about 6 or 7 times that I can recall... Interestingly about 1/2 the time politely, gently, and respectfully declining seemed to greatly increase their interest in me. )
I would not completely rule it out but consider it rather unlikely. I need to get to know a girl a bit before getting really attracted to her. (It is one thing for someone to turn your head - it is another for them to keep that attention and make you want to act on it...) I have trouble understanding how some people can have sex with someone they do not respect - and I have trouble respecting people when I first meet them without first getting to know them...

So contrary to what OP claims I will clearly state that I am unlikely to sleep with someone on a first date. (If and when it ever occurs I suspect it would be a very LONG first date... Like maybe a weekend backpacking trip with a small group where an unexpected connection developed or something...)
 Vannili

Joined: 7/8/2008
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Posted: 8/13/2008 10:47:17 PM
mrd777, not all men are like you ,who can not afford to pay a prostitute to relievetheir self sexually, they go to online dating pretending looking for nice woman for a date/relationship/ bride.. mislead the woman , but to bang, thank you ma'm..
 Vannili

Joined: 7/8/2008
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Posted: 8/13/2008 10:55:43 PM
mrd777, I understand you ,you are just a bird that got out or should I say escape ?from the cage and hungry for tweat,tweat ,tweat,of a birdie?
 Beachdad_3

Joined: 7/28/2008
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Posted: 8/14/2008 7:39:57 AM
Honey, any "Gentleman' worth his weight would not touch this woman with a 10' pole and let me explain why. First off, if she is willing to have sex on the 1st meeting, who else has she done this with? How many times this week has she done this with? What disturbing things have happened in her past to cause her to behave this way? This is a recipe for disaster and the idea of how many individuals she has slept with in this manner and all the partners the other men had is staggering. Yes, I agree there are "Pigs" out there, men who will sleep with anyone, but we are all not animals. Maybe you should try a site that the object is gratuitous sex? I for one am looking for a serious Long term relationship and the type of your woman your describing isn't worth the time of day and is in need of therapy of some sort...
 Droleci

Joined: 4/21/2004
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Posted: 8/14/2008 7:48:54 AM

you felt an attraction to them,you like her,the"SHWWIIIINNGGG!!"factor is there,and she asks you to spend the night.


I think the only reason a guy would turn it down is if he had bad experiences in the past.

If a women you find attractive were pursuing you, I agree, OP, most guys would accept I suspect. I certainly would.
 Droleci

Joined: 4/21/2004
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Posted: 8/14/2008 8:03:18 AM

First off, if she is willing to have sex on the 1st meeting, who else has she done this with? How many times this week has she done this with? What disturbing things have happened in her past to cause her to behave this way


Why would this possibly matter? Someone's past is their past. What if she did it hasn't slept with a guy in 5 years? You don't know that. Frankly, it's noone's business.

The fact of the matter is that she wants to be with YOU cause that SHWING is there. And the scenario the OP presented was mutual. You wouldn't want to be with someone that you had such strong mutual chemistry with from the moment of meeting that you couldn't wait for the bedroom? Are you crazy?

It is not "gentlemanly" to deny your sexuality. It is gentlemanly to respect her. If she is SO into you that she can't wait, and the feeling is mutual, then it is neither disrespectful nor inappropriate to not wait.

I mean, it's purely hypothetical. In my experience, women that can't wait to get you in bed simply don't exist. But maybe your set of experiences is different and has led you to believe that women that are attracted to you and willing to act on it, are deeply flawed.

But think about that for a second... Someone who is attracted to you and willing to act on it - you think, you make assumptions - that they are flawed and not worth the time of day... What does that say about you?
 kattapult

Joined: 3/22/2008
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Posted: 8/14/2008 8:08:15 AM
I'd wonder where the hidden cameras are


I couldn't stop laughing with this one ... I've thought about that, myself!! LOL

As for sex on a first date? I sowed my wild oats when I was supposed to and am grateful I came out unscathed. Not to mention the sheer enjoyment of it. I figure the next time I'd be considering it is when I'm beyond retirement .. maybe. :P These days I weigh the gratification:investment/risk ratio and it falls way too short for me to go there.

vvv I also agree with the poster below. What I decide for myself, is in no way a judgement call on others who decide what's right for them is different. As long as I do what feels right for my own sanity and they do the same, it works out for everyone involved.
 gemstar2000

Joined: 5/10/2008
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Posted: 8/14/2008 8:08:52 AM

But think about that for a second... Someone who is attracted to you and willing to act on it - you think, you make assumptions - that they are flawed and not worth the time of day... What does that say about you?


I couldn't agree more. People say they want honesty, and they want us to be open and be ourselves, but when we are, we're judged for it. What's up with that?
 FishOwl

Joined: 12/4/2007
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Posted: 8/14/2008 8:18:51 AM
You want the truth, you'll get it. THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE!!!!

If we like each other enough and figure there is a chance of escalating the pairing then, yes, WE will have sex. Not ME. Not HER. US. WE. It takes two to tango, even horizontally. In the shower is good clean fun, too, but that's another thread.

So would I be open to sex on a first date? Maybe yes and maybe no. Ditto for the second, third, fourth, etc. Why would I continue with someone who doesn't feel right for sex? She is fun to be around and a great friend, maybe more serious with someone else or maybe a professional, other than that, acquaintance.

There all kinds of stories.
 vivaciousvixen2

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 8/14/2008 8:31:05 AM
that comes down to waht is a first date. my exi i were in a relationship before he came to this country. we met on a dating site.clicked. were totally into eachother. and when we got together. when he came to america from the uk.
"H ell YEAH We had sex and sex and sex!!!"
it would have lasted if he wasn't a fruitcake
but there were some great times
and i have a beautiful little girl.

 Boricua Papi

Joined: 10/8/2007
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Posted: 8/14/2008 2:42:15 PM
Women have the same control over sex as males. Men are more aggressive, nothing more.
 Fight Naked

Joined: 7/11/2008
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Posted: 8/14/2008 3:00:29 PM
Just as many woman as men feel the same way. Why don't we realize that all that happens to both sexes just in reverse. Noting is exclusive to men or to women.

Sorry, but we are all alike for the most part.
 sunnybunny60

Joined: 8/4/2006
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Posted: 8/14/2008 3:39:39 PM
Just as many woman as men feel the same way. Why don't we realize that all that happens to both sexes just in reverse. Noting is exclusive to men or to women.

Sorry, but we are all alike for the most part.
Not on this subject, Fight Naked

I would say only 1-2 men out of 10 would turn it down (and I personally haven't met them yet) and I'd assume 1 out of 10 women would accept this (or in this case - offer it?) It even sounds kinda funny

I know such men exist, I talked to them, but because I didn't try sex on the first date with them, I can't say if they really would turn it down if offered
 ksquare1971

Joined: 8/7/2008
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Posted: 8/14/2008 5:50:41 PM
Oh helll....Do what you want ong the first date, who cares! It doesn't make you any less of a man/woman just as long as you know who you are and for that matter what you want.. Each scenario is different of course and quite frankly if two consenting adults are in agreement with doing so than be it, who am I to jusdge...Just don't "boohoo" if it you have unrealistic expectations and things don't turn out how you thought they would....
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