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 jmarquise

Joined: 1/27/2008
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Did Bush commit political treason today ?
Posted: 5/16/2008 2:15:57 PM
GWB doesn't need to speak to look like an idiot!
 bob0colo

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Posted: 5/16/2008 2:17:41 PM

notice that bush never mentioned anyone by name. everyone just assumes. god politicians are idiots. now obama is whining about it. if he whines about that, what is he going to do when they start calling him by name? his heads gonna explode!


More will be following.
The Obama supporters need wake up. RNC has Branded and defined Obama .... Carter.

The Senator Mentioned in the Bush speech, was a Republican.
 SimmahDahnNah

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Posted: 5/16/2008 2:20:24 PM

The Obama supporters need wake up. RNC has Branded and defined Obama .... Carter.

The Senator Mentioned in the Bush speech, was a Republican.


RNC has branded Obama Carter? Whoopedeedoo....they are going to try to make us as scared of Obama as they possibly can. They are all about the F word.
F E A R...boogety boo.

And so what if the guy was a republican? It happened over 60 yrs ago, and they were comparing someone who gave Chech. to Germany, saying that this is what we can expect from a democrat if we are fool enough to vote one in the White House.
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 5/16/2008 2:21:20 PM

RNC has Branded and defined Obama .... Carter.


And reality has branded and defined McCain .....Bush
 flyguy51

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Posted: 5/16/2008 2:29:38 PM

RNC has Branded and defined Obama .... Carter.

I think history is very slowly starting to smile on Carter. I think I am. He was the last honest president, albeit not the most effective. Of course, things are sooo much better now. What have they dubbed Bush? Howdy Doo Dee?

The Senator Mentioned in the Bush speech, was a Republican.

Shows you how much has changed in "the party of Lincoln."
 timj82

Joined: 11/16/2007
Msg: 56
Did Bush commit political treason today ?
Posted: 5/16/2008 6:50:18 PM
Carter and Bush Jr. will run neck and neck as the worst president
 Chevelle67

Joined: 3/26/2005
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Posted: 5/17/2008 3:51:38 AM
Montreal Guy,

Tell me exactly what Bush said. I watched the whole speech on CSPAN to the Isreali Knesset and i didn't hear the word Obama come out of his mouth or any other name. I did hear him say some people think we should sit down and negotiate with Iran and other terrorist factions but i did not hear him say that Obama or Clinton thinks we should sit down and negotiate with terrorists. I am just trying to cling on here to what you have said but it just doesn;t add up because I watched the whole speech. You can not base your argument on assumptions it is a fallacy. And by the way when you get your information from a liberal web site like that of course they are going to make things up to put the focus on Bush becaiuse he is a repblican. Maybe you should have watched the speech
 Chevelle67

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Posted: 5/17/2008 3:54:25 AM
Carter,

You have got to be kidding me! you mean the President that let American hostages sit in Iran for 444 days is a good President? I knoiw Bush is terrible anmd he is one of the worst Presidents ever But Carter is great cmon what are you smoking!
 Steven02151

Joined: 2/17/2008
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Posted: 5/17/2008 6:10:09 AM
Shawhan, dude, NK was or is on the Axis of Evil, too, and weve quietly been "appeasing" them, in fact, right now in a discussion about how not to distribute 500,000 tons of food "aid" to their vast Army, which has nothing to do with their disarmament, of course. NK is, as you know, a country we fought a war with on behalf of SK as well.

It is patently hypocritical of Bush, maybe not treasonous, but we don't pick and choose who we talk to and who we don't.

Thank GOD we have a candidate for President who believes in the power of diplomacy, we just might join the rest of the world!
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:00:13 AM

Tell me exactly what Bush said.


As steven quite correctly pointed out, diplomacy isn't appeasement. There is a profound difference between the two. Again, Bush's administration sat down with Sunni insurgents (many of whom who were responsible for large numbers of US military dead and casualties, without any doubt), and not only negotiated with them - but paid them, and are still paying them, with American tax dollars.

72,000 of them , who are paid 300 dollars a month.

On top of that, coming from a man who's grandfather directly involved himself with Hitler's rise to power financially , worked with people associated with him, and who assisted in that noble goal ?

A man who's own grandfather assisted in Hitler's rise to power, and who then created the death camps of the Shoah, which murdered the relatives of people who are probably sitting in the audience at the Knesset ?

Hypocrisy of the highest order.

Done for domestic political gain ?

Even more odious.
 _JAFO_

Joined: 11/9/2007
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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:44:04 AM
I'm sure getting tired of Obama always screaming ( ( ( ( ( V I C T I M ) ) ) ) )
 trapper jon md

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Posted: 5/17/2008 8:16:17 AM
as chevelle notes, bush didnt name any democrats or even the democratic party in that speech....looks like white house spies must have broadcast the "news" to the dems who reacted within ten minutes of that speech. so pelosi, obama, etc must be just public relations firms at this point. forget what the people want. forget about governing, legislating, etc. its all about advertising at this point.

great thread, the contrast between who here is a patriot and who is a communist is particularly stark. please if you quote sources other than news corp, please know they are soros controlled or inspired. disregard them. they are editorialized, have an agenda, and it aint in your best interest...its in the enemy's.
 nipoleon

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Posted: 5/17/2008 8:42:30 AM
George W. is as looney as Nixon was at the end of his presidency.
Except, George was never the savy politician Nixon was. There were actually some things admirable about Nixon.
G.W. has never been anything but a hollow hood ornament, propped up with the money and backing of those who want to use the government for their own purposes.
I started a thread several months ago comparing G. W. Bush to Capt. Queeg of the " Cain Mutiny ". I think the comparison still holds true.
If his handlers had any sense of responsibility for him , they wouldn't let him outside by himself anymore.
 CharlesEdm

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Posted: 5/17/2008 10:52:12 AM

You have got to be kidding me! you mean the President that let American hostages sit in Iran for 444 days is a good President?


Better than selling them weapons no?
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 5/17/2008 10:53:34 AM
Or attacking Iran, and getting involved in a war that would last decades - with no end in sight?

Actually, over time, Carter starts to look a lot better than he did when he was president.
 flyguy51

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Posted: 5/17/2008 11:16:10 AM
But Carter is great cmon what are you smoking!

I don't think it's as good as what you're smoking. My post was not lengthy, but you still didn't seem to comprehend its meaning. I'll clarify: historical perspective is showing Carter's presidency to be somewhat underrated. Those were tough times after all. Considering that most people thought he was a horrid president, that is not a hugely charitable claim. Nonetheless, Carter the man has been shown to be one of wisdom and charity, regardless of what one thinks of his time as president.

My main point: Bush makes a person pine for Carter.
 itechman42

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Posted: 5/17/2008 11:17:42 AM
I think Carter was the last decent human being we had as President.
 woodenmike

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Posted: 5/17/2008 11:31:21 AM
Bush commiting treason?

"Political Treason"?

That's news?

It sure as hell is an ongoing current event!

As for FEAR, I'm sure afraid of Hitlery, McLame, or Ovomit as president!

 bob0colo

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Posted: 5/17/2008 11:33:59 AM
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There is one voting group that view Carter as a Gaint Falure.......

The Group OBama needs.....

Obama is being Framed, Defined by the RNC...
 sanderick

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Posted: 5/17/2008 11:49:27 AM
Barack Hussein Obama is crying foul, cause he knows that his actions were called to the carpet. But actually it applied to: Carter, Pelosi for their failed political trips to visit the leaders of countries that Sponsor Terrorism. Obama is just waiting on his plan ticket to Iran.

I ask you all to check out this short video about Neville Chamberlin. I am sure that today, you can swap out Barack Hussein Obama for Neville and not miss a beat.

CHECK IT OUT::

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-w77sLtz754
 themadfiddler

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Posted: 5/17/2008 11:50:13 AM

please if you quote sources other than news corp, please know they are soros controlled or inspired. disregard them. they are editorialized, have an agenda, and it aint in your best interest...its in the enemy's.


"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan

Why is the RNC and its ilk so paranoid about Soros? To what length will they go to slander the man? Well pretty far it looks like http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040705/alterman

Stick with actually trying to refute a claim, not an ad hominem against the source. If you can't do any better than those lying windbags from Faux News, then give it a rest.



Barack Hussein Obama is crying foul, cause he knows that his actions were called to the carpet. But actually it applied to: Carter, Pelosi for their failed political trips to visit the leaders of countries that Sponsor Terrorism. Obama is just waiting on his plan ticket to Iran.

I ask you all to check out this short video about Neville Chamberlin. I am sure that today, you can swap out Barack Hussein Obama for Neville and not miss a beat.


Only if you are completely ignorant of history, a jingoist, and perhaps believe in right-wing rhetoric so deeply that you have an autographed photo of Julius Streicher in a shrine in your room that you abuse yourself to regularly would you be able to make this fantastic leap.
 Lawman In Black

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Posted: 5/17/2008 11:53:59 AM
"Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along," said Bush

"We have heard this foolish delusion before," Bush said in remarks to the Israeli Knesset. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American Senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is - the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

Hmmmmmm......this is all he said and yet someone writes a huge article on it and almost everyone here jumps on the band wagon in some way or the other.

I can't say the statement is out of line and needed to be said. The treason is occurring when we have politicians talking to our enemies as though they are plotting an overthrow of government......NOW THAT IS SCARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 sanderick

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Posted: 5/17/2008 12:11:56 PM
It's really funny how far Liberals have lost it. You start quoting HISTORY and their failed policies, and they scream racism or personal attacks. History is repeating itself.

The scary thing is the large number of uneducated people here on this thread that haven't learned the history lesson.

It's a real shame.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-w77sLtz754
 themadfiddler

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Posted: 5/17/2008 12:20:50 PM


It's really funny how far Liberals have lost it. You start quoting HISTORY and their failed policies, and they scream racism or personal attacks. History is repeating itself.

The scary thing is the large number of uneducated people here on this thread that haven't learned the history lesson.

It's a real shame.


Irony...see above.

Germany was a country on a massive war footing, having pushed itself back from a massive economic collapse brought on by its complete sanctioning by the League of Nations following WW1 and was prepared to go to all out war. It had already demonstrated its capacity to do so by carpet bombing Spain with the Luftwaffe in the Spanish Civil War.

There is absolutely no comparison that can be drawn economically or strategically between WW2 Germany and 21st Century Iran and Neville Chamberlains' appeasement and any modern politician speaking of diplomacy unless you are a blinkered rightwing fanatic bent on fulfilling the neo-con agenda of "Plan For A New American Century" or the imaginary "War On Terror". You have to stretch the analogy so far that it snaps back and slaps you on your ignorant unread arse to try and compare the two situations because as an old woodsman might say,

"That there dog won't hunt, son."
 flyguy51

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Posted: 5/17/2008 12:47:40 PM

I ask you all to check out this short video about Neville Chamberlin. I am sure that today, you can swap out Barack Hussein Obama for Neville and not miss a beat.

Try swapping in Bush when he declared "Mission Accomplished." 97% of US casualties have occurred since his infamous declaration. Flying in, getting off the plane, infamous declaration; it all fits.

Bush isn't running, you say? Swap in McCain for Bush. If Bush were to come to a sudden stop, McCain would be grabbing for a diaper wipe for his face.
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