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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/17/2008 1:01:35 PM | The Democrats are having a fit and their liberals subjects are also having a fit because it simply means that Bush hit a Home Run, Bush, Grand Slam. Liberal males that have forsaken Hillary, and are now all defensive at the truth that Bush said at the Knesset.
So is Nancy Pelosi. She's all up in arms and defensive. She's the queen bee in D.C., and does not want Hillary taking over that position in D.C. There's only room for one queen bee. Yet their hypocrisy continues. The President is on foreign soil and all these appeasers are attacking Bush while they whine and cry that he was directly talking about them. He was not but they are guilty since they are liberals, case close.
(Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We've heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared, "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided". We have an obligation to call this what it is: the false comfort of appeasement which has been repeatedly discredited by history).
Bush was talking about appeasing Hitler. And yet these people are so defensive, and they know he's right. They had to announce this, they had to have their little fit to try to distract the criticism, because anything, a divisive attack on liberals equals the truth. Bush was cool and so right.
They have not denied, by the way, what Bush said. Nobody has denied from the Obama camp that he said what he said about meeting without preconditions with Ahmadinejad. Anyway, the White House confirmed it was towards Carter, since Carter has a history of appeasing as a typical liberal, despite being a conservative Democrat.
For the appeasers who still attempt to compare North Korea and the late Soviet Union to demented Muslims. North Koreans are not terrorists and radicals. Soviets were not terrorists and radicals. Enemies we talked with and negotiated with. Moreover, Korea is a divided country with the non-Marxists in the south negotiating while still at war with their pinko siblings. Goes to show that Koreans, particularly the Marxists in the north, are civilized compared to the terrorists and radical Arabs and Muslims.
This year Europe and the US will spend approximately $2 trillion on imported oil, while the world will spend close to $3 trillion.
So if you are the enemy of the United States, and you're trying to punish us for whatever reason, you don't like our policy with Israel, you don't like us being in Iraq, you don't like that we have killed tens of thousands of demented Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc. You don't like the fact that we kicked your butt in the Cold War and the Berlin Wall came down, whatever reason you hate us, you got to be hurting. Because Bush got elected twice and it doesn't matter that his polls are at 31%. He's not running, but the Congress is, and their polls are at 28%.
You are watching your greatest enemy and threat destroy itself with liberalism. You think? GOP will win the Presidency again in November, despite McCain appeasing the liberals, as Bush has often done in his 8 years as President. We all know Obama is another Carter, Dukakis, McGovern, Kerry, losers galore, and the Democratic liberals screwed it once again.
Hillary was the way to go and she's the stinkiest of the pack! She was actually better than the average liberal male, and they are going for Obama. Actually, we are watching our greatest enemy and threat destroy itself like our leftist enemies around the world are watching us.
If someone or some organization is not conservative, it's by definition going to be liberal, not moderate, not independent, it's going to be liberal, because liberalism is easy. Liberalism takes no intellectual application. Liberalism is all about how you feel. Liberalism is all about making yourself feel good about yourself while you don't solve diddly-squat. Liberalism is all about thinking you're better than everybody else. Liberalism is all about thinking you're smarter than everybody else. Liberalism is all about ignoring every failure of liberalism and asking instead for your good-hearted intentions to be examined and credited. The simple fact of the matter is that the liberal point of view as constituted today repulses people.
Liberals still want us to believe that we went into Iraq for oil. We didn't go to Iraq for oil. Iraq has nothing to do with oil, other than making sure the Iraqi oil fields remain functioning and don't end up in the hands of terrorists. But we went there on the basis of national security and defeating terrorism. We went to Iraq as part of the war on terror. We didn't go there for oil. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/17/2008 1:14:59 PM | ^^^ Sorry you wasted your time typing all that when you could have simply copy and pasted something by Ann Coulter.
*Holds up card with a picture of a screw + a picture of a baseball* | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/17/2008 1:16:20 PM |
Liberals still want us to believe that we went into Iraq for oil. We didn't go to Iraq for oil. Iraq has nothing to do with oil, other than making sure the Iraqi oil fields remain functioning and don't end up in the hands of terrorists. But we went there on the basis of national security and defeating terrorism. We went to Iraq as part of the war on terror. We didn't go there for oil.
Try this on for size :
Whatever their publicized angst over Saddam Hussein's 'weapons of mass destruction,' American and British authorities were also concerned about violence in the area that harbors a resource indispensable for the functioning of the world economy. I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.
"I thought the issue of weapons of mass destruction as the excuse was utterly beside the point.
No, no, no, Getting rid of Hussein achieved the purpose of making certain that the existing system [of oil markets] continues to work, frankly, until we find other [energy supplies], which ultimately we will.
- Alan Greenspan The Age of Turbulence (last quotes from Woodward interview discussing it )
Given the source, it's an important statement. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/17/2008 1:24:22 PM | Ok to all who say...ok the one of you who say you're sick of Obama calling victim:
The whole democratic party was incensed.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/15/bush.dems/index.html?eref=rss_politics&iref=polticker
Biden later asked, "Since when does this administration think that if you sit down, you have to eliminate the word 'no' from your vocabulary?"
Doubts about Obama with Jewish Americans were stoked by Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee in the 2008 presidential election, when he recently charged that Obama is the favored candidate of Hamas.
Hamas is an Islamic fundamentalist group that controls the Palestinian territory of Gaza.
Obama last week called the Hamas allegation a "smear" and lashed out Thursday at Bush's speech in Israel.
"It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack," Obama said in a statement released to CNN by his campaign.
"George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel," Obama's statement said.
To think that this was not directed at Obama is foolish. And to think that this was not to do a little more fearmongering while he's out of town is also foolish.
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/17/2008 1:30:26 PM |
To think that this was not directed at Obama is foolish. And to think that this was not to do a little more fearmongering while he's out of town is also foolish.
this is the way the game is played. if obama doesn't like it, he is foolish. why do you think I call politicians terrorists? they have to make you fear the other guy. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/17/2008 4:14:05 PM | And as a result of Hitler's rise and fall, the world (lead by the USA) defined wars of aggression as being the most evil of all evils. Germans were tried, convicted, and executed for that crime.
In 1945, the London Charter of the International Military Tribunal defined three categories of crimes, including crimes against peace. This definition was first used by Finnish courts to prosecute the aggressors in the War-responsibility trials in Finland. The principles were later known as the Nuremberg Principles.
In 1950, the Nuremberg Tribunal defined Crimes against Peace, in Principle 6, specifically Principle VI(a), submitted to the United Nations General Assembly, as: [2][3][4]
(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances; (ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_aggression
Since the invasion of Iraq was not mandated by a specific UN Resolution, and the ambassadors of both Britain and the US said it wasn't tied any trigger to UNR 1441 - we have the man who triggered this war of aggression (under international law) lecturing others ?
C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.
SECRET AND STRICTLY PERSONAL - UK EYES ONLY
DAVID MANNING From: Matthew Rycroft Date: 23 July 2002 S 195 /02
"But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."
Fadel Gheit, Oil Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co's New York Office reports:
A select group of oil company executives met with Bush administration energy officials in the spring of 2001 for secret high level discussions regarding Iraq's oil reserves.[13]
Iraq is nestled in the heart of an area of heaviest oil concentration in the world with easy accessibility - no permafrost, no deep water, just giant pools of oil right beneath the warm ground. Iraq has vast quantities of untapped and easily accessible oil, almost untouched.
"Think of Iraq as virgin territory .... This is bigger than anything Exxon is involved in currently .... It is the superstar of the future," says Gheit, "That's why Iraq becomes the most sought-after real estate on the face of the earth."
Gheit just smiles at the notion that oil was not a major factor in the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Gheit compares Iraq to Russia, which also has large undeveloped oil reserves. But Russia has nuclear weapons. "We can't just go over and ... occupy (Russian) oil fields," says Gheit. "It's a different ballgame."
Iraq, however, was defenceless and utterly lacking in weapons of mass destruction [ironically] thus making it a particularly easy target. And its location nestled between Saudi Arabia and Iran, makes Iraq an ideal location for an ongoing US military presence from which the US will control the entire Gulf region.
Gheit smiles again: "Think of Iraq as a military base with a very large oil reserve underneath .... You can't ask for better than that."
Although the Bush administration vociferously objected, another Task Force sourced document was released under court order, entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfields". The "Foreign Suitors" document identifies 63 oil companies from 30 countries and specifies the particular Iraqi oil fields each company was interested in and the status of relevant negotiations with Saddam Hussein's regime on their exploitation. Royal Dutch/Shell, Russia's Lukoil and France's Total/Elf Aquitaine, were all identified as potential developers in the fabulous, 25-billion-barrrel Majnoon oil field. Baghdad had "agreed in principle" to the French company's plans to develop this major oil holding in Iraq, however Cheney's Energy Task Force could not allow plans for French exploitation of the Iraqi fields to proceed.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Iraq_War
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/17/2008 8:49:02 PM | Let me start this by saying this: I hate GW Bush. Can't stand the man.
having said that, this is 1) completely misconstrued because of the context in which the speech was made and 2) blown so far out of proportion it makes my cry a little on the inside.
He brings up a great point though. people seem to think the US isnt attempting diplomacy with Iran. We are, they arent taking it. Its been on the table for years now, let international inspectors see what you are up to with your nuclear ambitions, you can join us in the international community rather than being segrigated from it. They dont want any of it. No amount of wit is going to change their mind. They dont have to change their mind because noone wants to start a real conflict with them (they have one of the largest standing armies in the world BTW)
Bush made this speech in front of a bunch of Israeli dignitaries. People who are from a country Iran has sworn they wish to destroy. thats the context of what he said. as a matter of fact i bet you didnt even know the actual words he said before someone posted them in this thread OP. He didnt mention any person or party. he mentioned a mindset of people who seem to think they can get Iran to change their mind on the Israeli state, which noone can.
As for being blown out of proportion, well just look at that article. It wasnt an attack on Obama, it wasnt an attack on anyone in partiular. it was an attack on the logic that we can somehow magically make the Iranian government recgnize Israel
Edit: Likely where a lot of this comes from is democrats exteme hatred for anything that is GW Bush. Thats what democrats are banking on to get elected, people not likeing Bush. Funny how they are compaigning against a person not running | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 3:46:25 AM | As steven quite correctly pointed out, diplomacy isn't appeasement. There is a profound difference between the two. Again, Bush's administration sat down with Sunni insurgents (many of whom who were responsible for large numbers of US military dead and casualties, without any doubt), and not only negotiated with them - but paid them, and are still paying them, with American tax dollars.
Isn't this what Obama would do? so why do you criticize Bush for it?
72,000 of them , who are paid 300 dollars a month.
Speaking of paying someone. Just wait until Obama is in office and you see all our money going to North korea, Somalia and Africa. Obama will send North Korea tons of money to suspend their nuclear program just like Clinton did and then will find out once again that the North Koreans are secretly developing nuclear weapons with our money we just gave them to dismantle it. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 4:57:36 AM |
Of course he's right. He looked authoritative. He looked more authoritative than McCain does. He looked more authoritative than Obama does. What is going on here is that the Democratic party is trying to create a false issue. Bush with an unprecedented political attack from foreign soil. They're trying to create a false issue.
Give me a freakin' break. You really did drink the koolaid. How people can keep apologizing for that moronic piece of cow dropping is completely beyond me but I guess there are still some around who didn't get the memo.
He spent time in the Muslim world, and his middle name is Hussein,
Keep dishing the crap. That's all the neocon apologists can ever do. How freaking pathetic.
there's a lot in this quote to trouble you and to bother you. What troubles me is people like you repeating this rubbish. That moron Bush diminishes this country every time he opens his mouth. I really don't understand why Laura still lets him out of the house. So I wonder what would Obama have to talk about with enemies of the US ? Probably the same kinds of things Kennedy talked about with Russia. Maybe the same things Nixon talked about with China. You know. That kind of stuff. notice that bush never mentioned anyone by name. everyone just assumes. And you think he was talking about McCain. Good grief. I am just trying to cling on here to what you have said but it just doesn;t add up because I watched the whole speech. We'll spell it out for you. He was talking about democrats. Who the hell do you think he was talking about? You really don't get it do you. Uh, no. The scary thing is the large number of uneducated people here on this thread that haven't learned the history lesson.
It's a real shame. A brain is a terrible thing to waste and there you've gone and done it. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 5:45:04 AM | | Well, Unfortunately for you bluesman the assumption is wrong. The word Assume if you divide it correctly it is spelled ass u me. so when you assume something like you are you are only making an ass out of you and me. I am going to be honest with you here. I do not like Bush at all. But i also do not like Obama or Clinton or McCain either. I would love to have a third party candidate running that had a legitimate chnace at winning. I know when i got my degree from college, we learned as students to think outside the box and that assumptions are just that assumptions. They are not facts. so that being said, if you can show me anywhere in the text of that speech that Bush mentions names I will side with you. I could go on this site and say that you are a true liberal conservative that is leaning toward voting Republican in the general elction but that doesn't mean that you are ultimately voting McCain. there is a place on the ballot that has write in candidate on it so you may mean you are voting a write in. But i could make an assumption that you are voting McCain when you are not. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 2:56:06 PM | Are you making things up as you go along? What assumption are you talking about exactly?
if you can show me anywhere in the text of that speech that Bush mentions names I will side with you.
Good grief. I really have to spell this out for you? Again? I repeat: WHO DO YOU THINK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT? McCain? You said you learned to think outside the box. Were you also taught to read between the lines? You're insulting our intelligence. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 3:38:36 PM | | If the shoe fits wear it... if Obama did say something similar why doesn't he just own what he said? Or if President Bush really was alluding to Obama what difference does it make? It seems a common trend with Obama he wants to be able to say how he really feels but when he realizes how he really feels may not make him popular with the masses then he tries to explain what he "really meant" or in "what context".. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 4:03:51 PM |
Or if President Bush really was alluding to Obama what difference does it make?
1) Bush's grandfather supported the Nazi's financially. 2) Bush started a war of aggression in Iraq, without explicit UN support of such an act 3) Bush, like any other US president has negotiated with America's enemies. That's done all the time, and always has been.
Clear enough ?
It was a clear shot across the bow at Obama, without any doubt.
Coming from who it came from, and where it was said, it was hypocrisy at it's finest - something we've come to expect from Bush and the Republicans by experience with them.
Even insiders admit that was the case.
Though the Bush Administration has claimed they were only aiming at Carter, the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder contradicts such a notion with quotes from two well-respected Washington reporters, both of whom cited anonymous Administration officials who admitted Bush's comments were a jab at Obama. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 4:05:39 PM | Please. Someone has a streak for drama here. I think Bush is a pathetic joke, but he was not accusing Obama of treason. Instead, he's just been accused of treason, for expressing an opinion popular among his electorate. Whether it's appropriate to campaign overseas while on an official trip on taxpayer's money, I don't know, but the whole article just sounds a bit too melodramatic to my ear. Treason my ***. Cheap shot. As a Democrat, I wish we did better.
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 4:12:08 PM |
both of whom cited anonymous Administration officials who admitted Bush's comments were a jab at Obama. Isn't that quaint anonymous sources...yeah right..this is just fodder for the Liberals to try and further entrench McCain with Bush..to bad the average American is smarter than your side gives them credit... Who cares if it is a shot at Obama? Didn't Obama state that he would do just what was alluded to? This will be difficult for your side to answer, I Know, as it requires a yes or no answer....
without explicit UN support of such an act At least you described almost accurately "without explicit UN support"..he did present his case and was justified as he did believe he was acting preemptively at the time,this would be in accordance with the UN position... | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 4:48:50 PM | After reading all of this thread, I really feel silly! I thought he was talking about Carter, (and still do) especially since many stories like the following were reported on his very recent visit to the Middle East.. Bush's remarks just sounded like someone soothing ruffled feathers to me.
Will Carter's Hamas foray bear fruit? The former president said Monday that the Islamist militants are prepared to accept the right of Israel to 'live as a neighbor next door in peace.' By Joshua Mitnick | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor from the April 22, 2008 edition
...Carter, who was snubbed by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on the trip, ... here's the link for anyone interested. http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0422/p07s01-wome.html | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 5:35:17 PM |
Bush started a war of aggression in Iraq, without explicit UN support of such an act
Incorrect. The US had the support of the UN with some dissention (mainly France and Germany) | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 5:41:29 PM | Incorrect:
While some politicians have argued that the resolution could authorize war under certain circumstances, the representatives in the meeting were clear that this was not the case. The ambassador for the United States, John Negroponte, said: “ [T]his resolution contains no "hidden triggers" and no "automaticity" with respect to the use of force. If there is a further Iraqi breach, reported to the Council by UNMOVIC, the IAEA or a Member State, the matter will return to the Council for discussions as required in paragraph 12.[2] ”
The ambassador for the United Kingdom, the co-sponsor of the resolution, said: “ We heard loud and clear during the negotiations the concerns about "automaticity" and "hidden triggers" -- the concern that on a decision so crucial we should not rush into military action; that on a decision so crucial any Iraqi violations should be discussed by the Council. Let me be equally clear in response... There is no "automaticity" in this resolution. If there is a further Iraqi breach of its disarmament obligations, the matter will return to the Council for discussion as required in paragraph 12. We would expect the Security Council then to meet its responsibilities.[3] ”
The message was further confirmed by the ambassador for Syria: “ Syria voted in favour of the resolution, having received reassurances from its sponsors, the United States of America and the United Kingdom, and from France and Russia through high-level contacts, that it would not be used as a pretext for striking against Iraq and does not constitute a basis for any automatic strikes against Iraq. The resolution should not be interpreted, through certain paragraphs, as authorizing any State to use force. It reaffirms the central role of the Security Council in addressing all phases of the Iraqi issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_1441
UNR 1441 did not authorize war, and both the British and American ambassadors on on the record during the debate on it as saying EXACTLY that. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 6:52:45 PM | people seem to think the US isnt attempting diplomacy with Iran. We are, they arent taking it. Its been on the table for years now, let international inspectors see what you are up to with your nuclear ambitions, you can join us in the international community rather than being segrigated from it. They dont want any of it. No amount of wit is going to change their mind.
That is factually incorrect. Iran has been subjected to inspections by the IAEA in the past and for a while even granted the UN verification body the privilege of conducting surprise spot inspections.
It was only after Bush's push to demonize and marginalize Iran through coercive economic sanctions that Iran finally said enough. They were the ones who went beyond the level of inspections required for verification of their enrichment programs under the NPT, it was Israel and the US, who rejected that plan, NOT the Iranians.
And no wonder, Israel and the US, per usual, having been incrementally moving the goal posts all along. First it was that Iran was actively pursuing and would not be permitted to develop WMD, when that couldn't be proven or more accurately 'sold', then it became that Iran not be allowed to conduct its own peaceful enrichment, which is their right as signatories under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, now it is that Iran should be denied even the 'knowledge' of the enrichment cycle.
So, Iran and Amanidinijad are quite correct in asserting that US instigations via the UN is an interference into their Sovereign rights under the NPT.
Bush made this speech in front of a bunch of Israeli dignitaries. People who are from a country Iran has sworn they wish to destroy.
Factually incorrect again, in several ways, first, it is a case of a perverse translation that has become as 'veritable fact' as it is constantly but incorrectly repeated often, day after day; next, in whatever regard one construes the comments, there is no doubt that they refer to Israel's government, not its people; then it is a comment that anticipates the Zionist governments ultimate implosion and implies it is by it's own heavy hand, more so than as any direct threat from Iran.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts4123041.aspx
Regarding the question in the OP: 'Did Bush commit political treason today ?'
No more so than any other US politician that doesn't speak truthfully and forcefully against Israel's horrendous record and treatment of the Palestinians. Granted it was an entirely craven, despicable, heartless, venal, cruel, and reprehensible speech, but that is what is required within the nature of the 'special relationship' after all. Every singe politician in Washington dances to Israel's tune, Barrack Obama included.
In such case, Washington itself is ruled by fear, not of terrorism, but from the punishing attacks waged by AIPAC, JINSA, and about a thousand others groups that comprise The Lobby, they that will work ceaselessly to defeat any candidate that is critical of any Israeli hardline policy, shows the slightest regard for Palestinians, or dares to question the benefit of our 'alliance' with the Apartheid State. But that was the point after all, to get The Lobby working to defeat any Democratic candidate no matter how loyal they might actually be ... because George Bush knows that is the only hope he has of protecting his 'legacy' and his policies, in the election of John McCaine, otherwise he might actually end up in circumstances similar to Saddam's, captive and facing Tribunals.
Not that that is at all likely, but one can always hope.
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/18/2008 7:03:13 PM | Iran's ayatollahs could collectively resign tomorrow, taking with them Ahmadinejad, the country could be thrown wide open for inspections of whatever sort, and you'd still have plutocratic militarist-industrialists, jingoistic nationalists, and/or Zionist hardliners (Jewish or Christian), or all of the above, pushing for war with them. "It's a ruse, we mustn't ever trust a member of the evil Axis...", that sort of thing.
I always question personally, however, how many of those who are the most vocal about insisting "Carthago delenda est" in regards to Iran actually have loved ones who are of potential military draft age or currently in active service. Granted I'm sure there are some, in a certain demographic here in America, but in general I'd bet alot of the "suit"-types who beat the war drums, whether on TV or in "think tanks" or on websites, are armchair desktop warriors with nothing personal on the line at all, beyond their ideology. What did the neocon architects of the Iraq invasion lose, personally, after it basically went south or didn't turn out half as planned ?? A loved one? A limb? Their life?? | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/20/2008 4:16:14 AM | I agree with soisaid,
I thought he was talking about Carter who was wanting to give part of Jerusalem to the Palestinians for peace. Maybe Obama just felt guilty, and he needs to defend himself. Of course now he has changed his mind, maybe because the polls show most Americans do not favor negotiating with terrorist. Maybe it's not fair to bring up Obama's lack of foriegn experience. | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/20/2008 3:52:01 PM | obama's made it clear he would appease. hey, maybe he can give iran's theocratic dictatorship everything east of the missisippi, then they MIGHT just leave the rest alone!
what a bonehead!
he missed a GOLDEN opportunity to speak out, support america and israel in one swoop, and sway millions of voters to his side. of course, that would have meant siding with bush,and we cant have that, can we? if you cant win, ruin the nation, a la gore's recount, right? winning isnt only everything, its the only thing, the hell with the country!
aww, did the little 42 year old lawyer feel dissed by a sitting president with two successful elections to his credit, one by a landslide? the leader of the free world? what a crybaby. what a little girl. not exactly presidential timbre, eh? | |
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/20/2008 4:54:01 PM |
aww, did the little 42 year old lawyer feel dissed by a sitting president with two successful elections to his credit, one by a landslide? the leader of the free world? what a crybaby. what a little girl. not exactly presidential timbre, eh?
To those of you who've received honors, awards and distinctions, I say well done, and to the C students... I say, you to can be President of the United States.
- President George Bush Jr. Monday, May 21, 2001 Speech ,Yale University
I remind people that, like when I’m with, Condi, I say she’s the Ph.D. and I’m the C student and just look at who’s the president and who’s the adviser.
President Bush Sep 20th, 2007
not exactly presidential timbre, eh?
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| Did Bush commit political treason today ? Posted: 5/21/2008 9:04:27 AM | I guess you don't have to be an A student to be President of the United States. Of course Pres. Bush has made mistakes, but what other choice did we have then to elect him? | |
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