| Are manners dead?
Posted: 5/16/2008 10:28:38 AM |
Not safe in MY place? I am not the least concerned about safety in this case. Between the 4 gutterpunk kids that stay here, the goth brigade that my 26 year old has here all the time, the grown quad and her oooh so protective boyfriend and the nurse that is here and awake 24 and 7, my biggest fear about having someone to my house is that it will scare the hell out of them.
Well, he certainly DOES have the balls if he tries to "accost" you with all those other people in the house who could walk in on you at any moment! Guess he's just a lost cause!  | |
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| Are manners dead?
Posted: 5/16/2008 7:00:38 PM | i believe manners is dead on the internet! ive met a guy a long time ago, we were talkin about something and he leaned in for a kiss! i do not believe i was sending him a signal to give me a kiss, it shocked me! guess what he said? he said "i thought u might wanted a kiss, so i just gave u one." i was like if i wanted a kiss, i would of sent out a signal to u. then he said how the kiss was sucky and how i was so ungrateful, i was like wtf?!
if they have no manners, i wouldnt meet them anymore. i would move on and find someone who at least has some kind of decent manners. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 9:55:29 PM | | I don't think manners are totally dead. I have to admit I have had alot of first time meetings and most of the men where nice and had manners. The few I thought maybe I'd date more to see what could happened well....the manners disappeared ASAP and then I made them disappear. I didn't vaporize them or anything just said be gone. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 2:30:08 AM | In some people minds I bet manners are dead..
Etiquette
“ Manners are very important in life. Good ones that is. You can get attention if you use proper etiquette. Politeness is what most People look for. If your parents raise you correctly, you will probably have fair manners. ”
Anyways if this guy thrust his hands on your BREASTS why didn't YOU SCREAM Bloody Murder and call 9/11?? out SNAKE | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 4:26:11 AM | [Anyways if this guy thrust his hands on your BREASTS why didn't YOU SCREAM Bloody Murder and call 9/11]
Cause I was laughing too hard!!! It was ludicrous. And the manner in which he did it was ohhh so lame and non sensual or sexy. Believe me, laughing was the more appropriate response. Plus, I couldn't help it!
Thanks for the opinions boys and girls. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:59:38 AM | I am afraid that 'manners' are something that are rapidly fading from our society.
I used to try to email everyone that emailed me. I rapidly discovered - there was no reciprocity in this 'behaviour'.
Similarly, taking a woman out for dinner/drinks/coffee gets some sort of acknowledgement about 50% of the time roughly.
I used to want to write them and say "WTF", but I am SOOOoooo over it now.
I have stopped buying most of them dinner for a first meeting. I'll met for a coffee or a drink or something similar, however dinner for a first meeting is a thing of the past for me. I would have to have some pretty remarkable vibes to get me to go back on that one.
I have found myself adopting their skill sets. Not interested - no reply.
I have to admit - it makes everything alot easier. However, I do feel sheepish from time to time.
Guess it is just a sign of the changing times.
Don't think I would be grabbing for a woman's breast on the first meet though. However, one never knows - didn't think I would ever do the 'no response' thing - maybe I will be changing on this one as well. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 8:01:05 AM | | manners and common sense have been long gone. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 8:13:59 AM | Since he was in your house, it's really not an online thing. Online, manners seem to be more rare. Maybe he went in for a kiss, lost his balance and had to grab something to hold onto? We need to see video to make the right call.
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Posted: 5/17/2008 8:39:33 AM |
Perhaps it's a cultural thing(I'm from the South), but are manners completely dead in the online world?
I know what you mean, my dad is from Georgia and all his sisters are fairly hospitable especially to family.
...grab the tits and squeeze, ... Yuck, did you smack him. Crazy jerk! I'm surprised you said anything to him at all after that. PiG! | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 1:52:03 PM | Yes, OP, I agree that the "thank you" manners are missing in much of today's society.
Even if it is not such a fun date afterall, I'd still message/call/mail/whatever a "thank you".
The boob grabbing thing ... I'm in agreement with the humor you found in it, as you stated in your last post!
Been there myself a few times, lol.
It didn't make me get all uptight and freaked out.
Now if he got nasty and pushed and didn't listen to my "nope"... then he'd get a kick in the ball region. Oh, and no thank you note. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 5:16:54 PM | Red Whisper
Where the hell did you find him?
[what rock?] | |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 5:40:16 PM | No Way!
In spite of women wanting more that a man of the past might expect................
Women are women and deserve respect, no matter what their wants or needs.
George | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 7:38:51 AM | It Does _Seem_ that way....doesn't it..??
The last 4 women that I contacted .. Very Politely .. by I/M .. Opened then closed . .
No comment...No Nothing...
Apparently....that constitutes a *BLOCK*...as nothing else that I write gets ANY reaction at all..!! | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 9:19:44 AM | | Manners, respect and chivalry are most definitely NOT dead! Of course I will admit they're on the endangered list LOL. I take great personal pride in my manners and chivalry and often recieve comments about how refreshing it is. Having said this, I will also point out that the vast majority of women I've talked to, tend to judge all men on their own experiences and thus automatically presume that all men lack manners and respect. My advice to those who insist on prejudging is simply, let each man prove himself rather than simply assuming. You may have passed by a true gem without ever giving him the opportunity to shine. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 9:42:36 AM | Manners are not dead.. I use manners so I know their not dead..
Manners are used here in the south ..
I would never grope a woman without being asked or guided in that direction. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 9:48:43 AM | OP - you must remember that people on this website are from all different walks of life, have different backgrounds, are looking for different things, and not everyone takes rejection the same. I know that some men, I have met were hurt when feelings were not mutual and I know some women act the same to men, when the tables are turned.
I believe that dating is totally subjective and if I like a man, and the feelings are not mutual, it does hurt a bit if the mutual interest is not there, but overall I prefer honesty and openess - to the "oh so common, vanishing act", when the stage was set for a repeat performance or at least a phone call. I would rather be spending my time with someone where we had mutual feelings for one another - othe wise it is just wasted time, because it would never go anywhere.
We cannot be responsible for anyone but ourselves. Like you, I am always polite and do appreciate the time a man has spent with me, and tell him so. I do it because I have self-respect and respect for the man/person I met/spent time with. I would like to think that all people exhibit the manners I have, but that would be to naive on my part.
I dont think manners are dying or are dead, its just that when you are dealing with emotions, not everyone responds the same. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 10:53:25 AM | How funny I see this thread after I was just talking about manners and the lack there of, by some people.
I thought maybe they were like everything else, right now..........in recession. 
I've lived in many different states and also worked with many people for different places and there are less manners used.........
Yes, ma'am...no sir.
Please and thank you.
The different in the south, to me, is the combination of manners and southern hospitality.
How many states do drivers, pull over and stop, on the side of the road, when there is a funeral procession coming by?
And older people even pull off their caps and hold it close to their hearts.
And people actually take the time to wave at people they don't even know.
And most of the older people will not curse you out for running out in front of them or doing other dumb things but will instead say, "bless your heart, you almost made me run into you".
Around here the people with manners, pass away and are being replaced with 4 transplanted, manner less, louts.....and that weakens the herd with manners.
It all starts with the dinner table.
We never missed a meal that the entire family wasn't sitting down together.
That's where manners were learned and exercised daily.
The same place we learned to be grateful and to be humble.
We gave thanks and appreciated what we had.......
No newspapers and the news shared with us ...good plowing day....broken wheel and how well the planting was going.
Plans were made, hope was given, triumphs were celebrated, promises were made and kept and sorrows were shared........... with every member of the family, at the dinner table.
Family values and the common bond that held us...8 people in total....was that dinner table, that provided more than just a place to lit and eat.
It was the heart of the house.
You don't get that from fast food or restaurants.
Now there are "grazers" being raised.......parents are more interested in being friends than parents.
And the "grazers" feel entitled if for no other reason than being mama's spoiled, little terror.
My opinion......
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Posted: 7/11/2008 12:21:32 PM | I value manners and ill-mannered people are a pet peeve of mine; however, I can be really feisty even rude if needs be and the situation with that rude guy grabbing your breasts....OH HELL NO! That would be where my manners went out the door. If he did that to me, well it wouldn't go over well at all and I would NOT give him a thank u call. Oh no no no. 
If you were a decent guy and I didn't really like you...then I would do the call back or email. Although sometimes I think both parties know the deal and we just don't call each other back and it's understood. But believe that if you were rude to me and completely out of line and disrespectful, I am not going to show you any type of courtesy | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 12:49:58 PM | i agree that manners seem to be going the way of the 8-track and cassette
however, i don't really think the groping was about manners; it was just about this guy being a pig; been there, done that...........same guy that was holding doors for me earlier in the evening tried the grope thing without so much as a kiss or anything resembling one, in a PUBLIC PLACE, no less
but yes, i find it really sad that most people have little sense of even common courtesy, nevermind the next step up to "good manners".........when i see a kid doing something that exhibits manners, i always commend them because i see it so seldom that i want to encourage them to continue
but i also agree with others here that you were taking your chances to have this guy in your house on the first meet/date, no matter how many people were in your house at the time.........this is NOT to say you asked for or deserved the grope, however :-)
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Posted: 7/11/2008 12:54:46 PM |
until we sat down to watch TV and he went straight for my tits.
Watch TV? Where were you? His place? Your place? Was this the first date? | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 12:59:24 PM |
Not safe in MY place? I am not the least concerned about safety in this case. Between the 4 gutterpunk kids that stay here, the goth brigade that my 26 year old has here all the time, the grown quad and her oooh so protective boyfriend and the nurse that is here and awake 24 and 7, my biggest fear about having someone to my house is that it will scare the hell out of them.
Rule number 2. Never go to her/his place on the first date (unless you want something to happen.) | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 5:31:45 PM | Certainly not with everyone, BUT with some/many yes..manners are most definitely DEAD. I believe for many brain-dead souls, manners are a sign of weakness. I have noticed that when I have used good manners and kindness, some people tend to try and take advantage of me or treat me poorly. However, when you get aggressive with those same people or treat them as underlings, they tend to dote on you or change their tune. It's very sad actually. It doesn't always work like that of course, but I've tried these "experiments", usually at work, and the results are sometimes a sad statement on people's actions.
As for online dating: yeah...I've noticed some abomidable behaviour. Since I only ever contacted women, I'll speak of those experiences. At let someone else (female)speak of the boorish males.
When I was "looking", I was shocked at how many women do the "Read Delete" thing just minutes after opening their mail. They didn't even have the decency, after receiving a proper and very respectful email..believe me, to wait a day and then delete the thing. It was like BANG...DELETED. Now I didn't exactly expect a note back, because I realize most people just can't write back a "Thanks...but NO Thanks" email, but c'mon....."Read..Deleted" immediately after opening the email? That shows little class or manners IMO. I can honestly say I NEVER did that to anyone, and I ALWAYS sent a "Note of Polite Decline" if I wasn't interested. ALWAYS. Even worse is the disgusting "Unread Deleted" email. That is just so rude. This coming from people with "I am so nice, I have class, I am a decent person" plastered all over their emails. Very sad.
I have been out with women who belched in public, asked embarrassing/extremely personal questions, showed up waaaaaay late with NO apology or explanation, talked on their cell phone during the date, questioned my choice in cars (I drive a luxury car), and dressed very inappropriately for a date. Thank God the majority of women I dated throughout my "date stage" were decent, classy, and well-mannered women; but I did meet some real classless airheads as well.
I'd go out on a limb and say that many people don't consider manners all that important a trait....not like 50 years back. That's been my experience lately. I think too many people have too much admiration for the "Aggressive-Buck Chasing Go-Getter" than the person with humility, manners, and quiet class.
That's the way we've seemed to turn. "Yipeeee".. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 6:01:16 PM | Even if I don't ever want to see the guy again, I follow up with a thanks for coming all the way to see me, but...
In plain english. At least that doesn't leave them hanging, wondering what happened! | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 6:56:05 PM | Ugh, guys like that give the rest of us trouble - respect, and manners in gen. are "not" dead, but does seem to have diminished...is it the parenting? soceity? I dont know...
For me, its a very simple thing, "how would I feel if I was her?" thats all I need to do, to base my treatment, its not rocket sceince heh...I wish more people could do it. | |
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