| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/21/2008 12:36:47 PM | I’ve taken to editing posts for spelling and grammar whenever I need to quote an earlier response to a thread.
I don't think you should do that. If you box it or add parentheses to indicate you are quoting another's comments, you should leave it as is. If you change it (by correcting the spelling and grammar), it is no longer a direct quote. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/21/2008 5:57:05 PM | | It bothers me if the errors are consistent but I've made those kinds of mistakes myself so I can't judge too harshly. I sometimes shoot things off without checking and then see the mistake right as I hit the send button. I then just have to resist the urge to go and explain that I'm not really that stoopid. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/21/2008 9:29:17 PM | They're called homophones. Somewhere along the line, many people seemed to decide that as long as 2 words sounded the same, they were interchangeable. We had someone working for us who was about to send a high priced pump quote out to the municipal sewage treatment plant. Luckily I caught it before the recipient saw their facility referred to as the Waistwater Department. I haven't seen a diamond described in terms of carrots - yet. I blame the Hooked on Phonics people. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/22/2008 2:24:12 PM | Is this a criticism of all people in the New World? They seem to misspell an awful lot of words that you can find in the Oxford English Dictionary. What's the problem with the letter 'u' following an 'o', for example? Yet I harbour no ill will against those who idomatically differ. It add colour to the languages whose roots we share. And, if you care to listen, language is a guide to the history of our diverse population. Omitting words (I {have} seen) is a common dialectical occurrence, which can sometimes morph into other meanings such as a tense change. Personally, I don't find bad grammar anything like as intolerable as the rude and probably hurtful comments of the grammar Nazis as they trundle their offensive bigotry through these threads. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/22/2008 2:46:31 PM | Some people make innocent mistakes, like spelling misuse as miss use. Some people are just pathetic around here- my God, just another thing to pick on, weed out, red flag- whatever. People like you are the ones that make others around here scared to death to participate in the forums for fear of being criticized. This is not Mensa- its just the forums where people come to share stories, ideas and help from thier own life experience. Are we not criticized enough in life that we can't have somewhere to come and vent instead of fearing the grammar and spelling police. Not everyone has had the same education here - but that should not be a deterent for someone to participate and all should be welcomed.
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/22/2008 2:59:46 PM | ^^^lol there, their, they're now curly. Let it all out now....deep breath. ahhh... meh, i did a search but couldn't find a member with the name miss use....maybe the OP meant miss useless...as in I probably missed the point of a useless thread. So if i read this thread correctly, it's OK to butcher the english language but just don't spell yore words wrong... OK. I get it now.
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/22/2008 4:13:20 PM | I don't have much confidence in my own use of the word to/too. Not that my grammer is something to admire either. Maybe I've used it correctly but sometimes it just doesn't look right. Any simple guidlines too go by before I google? (I know most of the obvious ones like "to go by").
Focusing on mistakes may take your understanding away of a valid opinion because of a person's lack of education or of a different culture (language). The whole concept, to me, is to get your grey matter down on the keyboard before it becomes fleeting. Then toss it out into cyberlandia. Also I've gotten suddenly busy after a post and haven't had time to edit, then come back 15 minutes later and the edit option is gone. Sometimes it's not a matter of mispelling but rather hitting the wrong keys or a case of getting ahead of oneself ala temporary dislexia.
In conclusion (just remembered that important segment of writing, will try to use it more) reading independent thinking people's opinions traveling thousands of miles in a nanosecond far outweighs any imperfect display of spelling or grammer. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/22/2008 7:14:24 PM | Your use of grammar, capitalization, and punctuation are questionable. Should we be bothered because you should have graduated knowing this?
Questionable ? Thanks for the compliment. (if I'm the one to whom you were refering). Might be bordering on atrocious. Doesn't matter to me, I live in a place where you can speak to 15 different nationalities of people on any given afternoon and usually do. But anyway you have drawn certain conclusions. Like that I graduated, not to mention pass my English class. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/23/2008 5:32:52 AM | I learned in K-I-N-D-E-R-G-A-R-T-E-N to use a D-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y.....
It is this rectangular object varying in size that has pages attached spelling out words correctly......
And some day I may use it to figure out when exactly I need to use this little guy---> ;
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/23/2008 4:31:58 PM | I also think the OP deliberately typed miss use as an example. And now I am paranoid about commiting any faux pas in this reply But, I do agree with him, it does seem some people just cant be bothered to at least try, which could be interpreted as been lazy or even rude. But having worked in adult education a little, I realise that there are a devil of a lot of people who have problems like dyslexia so I try not to be too quick to jump in and criticise especially as I make the odd silly mistake myself. The long term problem with gramor wot is bad and slipshid speling is that important information such as how to do brain surgery or how to build a bridge need to be written in a consistent style that doesn't have more than one meaning depending on the whim of the writer. Also by allowing the recent decline in english, probably due to texting and internet chat rooms, over the last 5 years to continue unchallanged, we are changing our language in a uncontrolled and unstructured way that might result in us having no idea what we are talking about in another 20 years. I also see it as a generational thing, most people my age tend not to write in txt and find poor spelling etc more than just a mild annoyance, because our brains are slowing down, we have to think more about what someone is trying to say. If that person bothered to spend a few minutes checking over what they had written it would make it easier for everyone else.
It's similar problem with television programs like NYPD which pioneered the wobbly camera technique. For some of us older folks that made our head ache and tired our eyes trying to follow the horizon. Personally I think the technique wasnt about new art but saving money by using useless idiots who couldnt hold a camera steady, or understand the correct way to zoom and pan. but heh thats my opinion. Oh and don't get me started on background music. BAAAAAH. background, who is the BBC trying to kid. background music is supposed to be just that, it should be unobtrusive and complimentary, not in your face and distracting. If the plot, action or acting is so thin as to need musical assistance then maybe the programme shouldnt be made. Oh what about the adverts. Duhhhhh isnt the BBC supposed to be paid for by licence fee (tax) so why should we have endless adverts for this that and the other. It really bugs me when they trailer a third rate soap or drama every hour for 4 weeks. oops gone off topic
but actually I havent really gone off topic, that much. My point is that standards everywhere have dropped, whether in profile and forum post writing or in public broadcasting. but whereas someone on POF has the excuse, the BBC don't. And I am of the opinion that schools, parents, politicians and broadcasters have the duty to educate and lead by example. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/24/2008 8:07:53 AM | """Gee glad I'm not perfect. """ Some threads are simply byproducts of the impetuosness of youth. Perhaps this one applies. Meh, perhaps not. Who knows.
I thought maybe playing ""oh Lord it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way..."" was the right choice while i read this thread . But maybe "In spite of ourselves" is a better fit:
In Spite of Ourselves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5axlwCBXC8 ...We're the big door prize.
Maybe like Jack Nicholson said...maybe this is as good as it gets. Now back to sleepwalking thru life... It's a big ole goofy world http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvEFRpthMJc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWoyZixx1l4&feature=related
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/24/2008 8:35:55 AM | Me thinks pot needs to meet kettle OP
In all seriousness though, I do tend to have a little intolerance to people who can't use correct grammar, but then when typing, it's quicker and less pecks for some to not worry with ~ and people graduate every day with more inadequacies than these!
I'm not going to "loose" sleep over it! 
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/24/2008 9:18:02 AM | For those that understand my personal situation, they realize that often I am in a 'brain fog' due to lack of sleep, and/or stress. Luckily they are compassionate enough to overlook my errors, whether it be typos, or ignorant errors.
The text typing (ur, 4, etc) is really irritating. Personally, I consider that a lack of intelligence/education and pure laziness. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/24/2008 4:12:33 PM | OK - there are 3 different topice going on here it seems. 1- For the topic/perfectionist nazis - get off her back. She's obviously not talking about the odd typo that all of us make from time to time. Stop picking on her. If you don't like the thread go find another one. Grow up. I can't type very well but am always in a hurry to get my thought out as fast as possible resulting in the odd typo here and there.
2-The OP is referring to people who obviously either don't know or don't care which words they use and whether the correct version of a word is being used. I give a pass only to people who don't have English as their first language and you can sometimes spot these easily. Bad grammer is a huge turn off for me. I am a big "trend spotter" and believe in patterns. The people I am most likely to get along best with - regardless of age or background - use proper grammer and spelling - again - except for the odd typo here and there. But that's just me - and I now now I'm not alone! Whew.
3- I will accept the use of u for you in a text message because it makes sense to conserve space and makes composing a note faster.... in email I find it rude and lazy. That's just me and I don't neccessarily criticize people who do this - I just think we won't be a match and "next" them:)
OK - gotta go proofread for the Nazis now. Don't want any typos. Hait when that happens. | |
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| the miss use of words like your and you're, or there, their and they're. Posted: 5/24/2008 5:02:13 PM | | ^^^^^If anyone decides to knock another for typing issues and then they begin a thread about it, you would think they would use their spell check to make sure they get it right. Who cares about you you're and whatever the other one is! Some people have literacy problems and some people speak and write in broken English. My own mother says (mouse) in lieu of (mouth) and she's been in Australia for over 60 years! | |
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