| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/28/2008 10:33:28 PM | | I love all kinds of porn, and yes acutalized I agree its natural and comman for men, but wouldn´t it be better to watch with your woman...or mate, and both get turned on together,and if she is uncomfortable with it........well..........then ya´ll are gonna have to hide the dirty mags and videos............LOL cause respect should always come first. | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/28/2008 10:44:25 PM |
Here's why I don't like porn.
1) It's immoral.
2) It's degrading.
3) The lighting is so bad.
Not to mention the acting and camerawork.
Porn is the opposite of sexy, it's mechanical and boorish and has nothing to do with what actually takes place between a man and a woman who actually decide to be INTIMATE with each other.
Silicone-chested bimbos who's clothes have 'suddenly fallen off' and Viagra-charged morons that think all that's required is to bang away as the 'lady' moans ad nauseum whilst she mentally goes through her grocery list for the week, is nobody's idea of erotic. | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/28/2008 11:12:19 PM | I believe the women who get "worked up" about porn fall into a few, specific categoies.
1) The philosophically/religiously opposed. Those need no explaining, nor require justification. They are what they are, and will believe what they believe.
2) The insecure/possessive. They think their men actually covet the pixels on the screen, over themselves, rather than acceptimg that it's a masturbatory fantasy not unlike the masturbatory fantasy many women, in turn, have about movie/pop-culture/bodice-ripper novel stars. These are, in my opinion, often women who rarely or never have actually watched porn. For every "Wow!" porn woman and man (from what I've seen, at least), there are many more who are ordinary (in appearance) . It's just that they're doing unusual stuff. To be frank, I've watched a bit of low- to mid-level porn over the past few years of being single, and it has has actually INCREASED my personal, physical confidence. While some of the female actors are over-the-top and spectacular, as are some of the male actors, many are perfectly ordinary. Alors! I've noticed a few bumps and flaws and cellulite on the women (I get bored and distracted during the bogus lesbian action, so I either flip to Seinfeld or get clinical and observe), and love-handles and bellies and whatnot on some of the well-hung male stars. Be brave. Look. Feel better. Both genders. Really.
3) The secular prudes/inhibited. Again, like Classifiation One, they need no explaining or justification. They are what they are, and will believe what they believe. | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 12:18:01 AM | Actually, watching a woman's reaction to porn can be more fun than the porn! When she starts criticizing it for not being romantic, realistic, the bad lighting, etc.....it's great to watch the light bulb click on.....when they realize how ridiculous most of the set-ups are.
Then they give a NEW LIST of why they hate porn ---- "They never show guys doing THIS or THAT". | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 12:30:54 AM |
Maybe you should try visualizing the woman you love then. After all, wouldn't you be with her in the first place because she "gets you turning"? The rationalizations some people come up with for their behavior is amazing.
Wait a minute....I thought women wanted us to love them for their sparkling personalities and networking skills. Now you're saying we should objectify our women like porn stars?
Why can't we watch porn AND make love to our women? Why can't we have pizza AND steak? Why can't we read comic books AND Popular Mechanics? Why can't we play video games AND touch football on weekends? Why can't we wear Crocs AND carry a Louis Vuitton purse?
...'s all I'm sayin'.... | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 8:19:49 PM |
Not all women feel this way, I like porn, myself.. Why do they get upset ? Not comfortable with sexuality in general would be my guess.
Sweeeeet! So when are you comin' over?????
I'll get some popcorn ready.
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 8:40:38 PM | It's very popular to be a woman who pipes up and tells men how much she loves porn (and I watch it too, occasionally). It's expected now, along with the 'Girls Gone Wild' attitude at frat parties if you want to be accepted and not thought of as 'a prude'.
The thing is, this is an issue that is much more complicated, and is developing more far-reaching consequences than many have acknowledged, or even thought about.
Young guys are learning what they know about sex, and how they react to women (or don't react), though internet porn. Older men are sitting in front of the computer for hours instead of connecting with their wives. It's easier. These are social problems destined to get worse, and they are worth examining.
This is really not a moral or religious issue for most people.
An excerpt from Naomi Wolfe's article The Porn Myth:
"...The young women who talk to me on campuses about the effect of pornography on their intimate lives speak of feeling that they can never measure up, that they can never ask for what they want; and that if they do not offer what porn offers, they cannot expect to hold a guy. The young men talk about what it is like to grow up learning about sex from porn, and how it is not helpful to them in trying to figure out how to be with a real woman. Mostly, when I ask about loneliness, a deep, sad silence descends on audiences of young men and young women alike. They know they are lonely together, even when conjoined, and that this imagery is a big part of that loneliness. What they don’t know is how to get out, how to find each other again erotically, face-to-face.
So Dworkin was right that pornography is compulsive, but she was wrong in thinking it would make men more rapacious. A whole generation of men are less able to connect erotically to women—and ultimately less libidinous.
The reason to turn off the porn might become, to thoughtful people, not a moral one but, in a way, a physical- and emotional-health one; you might want to rethink your constant access to porn in the same way that, if you want to be an athlete, you rethink your smoking. The evidence is in: Greater supply of the stimulant equals diminished capacity...
After all, pornography works in the most basic of ways on the brain: It is Pavlovian. An orgasm is one of the biggest reinforcers imaginable. If you associate orgasm with your wife, a kiss, a scent, a body, that is what, over time, will turn you on; if you open your focus to an endless stream of ever-more-transgressive images of cybersex slaves, that is what it will take to turn you on. The ubiquity of sexual images does not free eros but dilutes it.
...Compare that steaminess with a conversation I had at Northwestern, after I had talked about the effect of porn on relationships. “Why have sex right away?” a boy with tousled hair and Bambi eyes was explaining. “Things are always a little tense and uncomfortable when you just start seeing someone,” he said. “I prefer to have sex right away just to get it over with. You know it’s going to happen anyway, and it gets rid of the tension.”
“Isn’t the tension kind of fun?” I asked. “Doesn’t that also get rid of the mystery?”
“Mystery?” He looked at me blankly. And then, without hesitating, he replied: “I don’t know what you’re talking about. Sex has no mystery.” | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 8:53:08 PM | As soon as a guy asks if he can cum on your face..................you know he has watched porn and thinks its the *normal* thing to do. I dont know many women who find a guy cumming on their face acceptable.
Porn is fine as long as you dont think your partner is abnormal for not wanting to reenact what you may have seen. SO many or the scenarios are not in tune with what females really want and that is why so many have a problem with it.
And yes it seems that women are expected to think that liking porn is the way to go, that they must be in touch with their sexuality.
What a crock of crap.
Just because I dont like porn doesnt mean Im not in touch with my sexuality. Im in touch with my sexuality many times a day lol What it really means is that you are willing to do more and accept more than many other women who expect their men to actually treat them with respect.
You can sugar coat it and say oh its good, its fun, its this its that, I get aroused etc etc but so do the rest of us women who demand alot more from their man. Put a porno on in front of your woman? What a load of rubbish, instead of watching someone else doing someone else, spend the time on the woman in front of you.
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 9:08:55 PM |
Maybe you should try visualizing the woman you love then. After all, wouldn't you be with her in the first place because she "gets you turning"? The rationalizations some people come up with for their behavior is amazing.
Well first of all you are lumping me into this category. I'm not porn addict myself.
Again the problem I have with this is you are not a male. You don't understand and this isn't a rationalization. This is a way of life for a man. Of course we visualize the woman we love. Sometimes that dies down and we use other methods to get that visualzation back. Whether that be porn, pictures, magazines, fantasies, PDA. Something to keep that lust and the desire to want our woman. I don't expect you to understand. If you were a male for one day you would. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 9:18:16 PM |
As soon as a guy asks if he can cum on your face..................you know he has watched porn and thinks its the *normal* thing to do. I dont know many women who find a guy cumming on their face acceptable.
Sigh. this thread is just asking for trouble. I would say the majority of guys understand that cuming on a womans face is not the "norm". We have respect for the one we are involved with. However, the flip side is.. Just merely asking to be allowed to cum on your face would be a turn on for most guys. Just asking! Quite simply just thinking about it and getting up the courage to ask and wondering if she will allow this would be enough to push a man over the edge both mentally and physically. Trust me the guy would be so vulnerable and mushy after asking if he really really cared about this person.
All I here from woman here is.. ME ME ME.. Have you ever thought about the man you love? Maybe try to understand why we do what we do or what really makes us tick?? My gosh.. What a lopesided world this has become. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 9:26:19 PM | Sigh. this thread is just asking for trouble. I would say the majority of guys understand that cuming on a womans face is not the "norm". We have respect for the one we are involved with. However, the flip side is.. Just merely asking to be allowed to cum on your face would be a turn on for most guys. Just asking! Quite simply just thinking about it and getting up the courage to ask and wondering if she will allow this would be enough to push a man over the edge both mentally and physically. Trust me the guy would be so vulnerable and mushy after asking if he really really cared about this person.
All I here from woman here is.. ME ME ME.. Have you ever thought about the man you love? Maybe try to understand why we do what we do or what really makes us tick?? My gosh.. What a lopesided world this has become.
Yeeesss sir.
Some women can't possibly understand because they view men as simple minded. Well they give it to us so we should be happy with it, right? Wrong.
Here's a thought for them to ponder: they should take the view that a lot of men enjoy giving their SO's oral even though quite frankly, there is some nasty shit that comes out of a woman's vagina. And yet, men enjoy doing it for them because it pleasures both involved.
And you're so right about the first part. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 10:03:13 PM | This deserved to be quoted I'm in love 
ok.....im reading more posts and feel the need to comment again....there is a difference between watching something together and having some fun and the so called addicts...everyone fantasizes sometimes. Whether its a porno movie....or an imaginary encounter with Brad Pitt or the neighbors pool boy. Technically, its all porn. It doesnt necessarily mean you love your SO any less. I myself have never cheated, but it doesnt mean i cant appreciate the beauty in another....or feel sexually attracted to another. I think my actions of not pursuing anything means more than if I had a fantasy about them. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 10:30:48 PM | I personally have the philosophy why watch or look at porn and fantasize about something when you should be confident enough to go out their and obtain and/or do.
I only object to porn if a man chooses "it" over me... I'm the real thing! You can't get better than the real thing, I'm sorry you JUST can not! However, many men have become so addicted to porn, that they can not handle being with a real woman... This does cause a problem with a lot of men and women.
If a man were to go into his room and watch porn and masturbate to the porn, while his girlfriend or wife is in the living room; who would gladly have sex with him at that very moment... There is something seriously wrong with him...
I don't watch nor look at porn but I'm not visually stimulated... I also, have no desire to watch other's have sex, when I can easily go out and do it myself... If you don't have a boyfriend, well friend's with benefits are great for those frisky feelings and urges...
I do know however, that many women feel inadequate in comparison with the women in the pornography. Yet, the men they are with do not respect their insecurity, for if they did they would stop viewing it when their girlfriend and/or wife is aware of it. It's not the care of you doing it, it's the care of you doing it when they are near and are completely aware of what you are doing...
I think men who view porn regularly need to grasp reality and respect the women in their lives a bit more, and when a woman says she doesn't approve; don't argue with her; just sit their and turn it off and throw her on the bed and make love to her... She wants you to be with you NOT the dvd player and Rosie!
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 11:43:55 PM |
I do know however, that many women feel inadequate in comparison with the women in the pornography. Yet, the men they are with do not respect their insecurity, for if they did they would stop viewing it when their girlfriend and/or wife is aware of it. It's not the care of you doing it, it's the care of you doing it when they are near and are completely aware of what you are doing...
So if they lied about watching porn in private, it'd be alright. What the girlfriend/wife doesn't know, won't hurt them? | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 11:48:12 PM |
However, the flip side is.. Just merely asking to be allowed to cum on your face would be a turn on for most guys. Just asking! Quite simply just thinking about it and getting up the courage to ask and wondering if she will allow this would be enough to push a man over the edge both mentally and physically. Trust me the guy would be so vulnerable and mushy after asking if he really really cared about this person.
All I here from woman here is.. ME ME ME.. Have you ever thought about the man you love? Maybe try to understand why we do what we do or what really makes us tick?? My gosh.. What a lopesided world this has become.
Okay then, how about you cum in your girls mouth and let her spit it on your face, hey that may just push her over the edge mentally and physically. (and at least you get to put your splooge on someones face.
The guy vulnerable?????????? What a load of hogwash. You cannot possibly believe the drivel coming out of your mouth?
Most women are all about making their men happy, pity it isnt reciprocated. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 11:51:40 PM |
I do know however, that many women feel inadequate in comparison with the women in the pornography
Well...we're talking fantasy here, right? As long as we're talking fantasy, let's remind ourselves that there's a reason it's a fantasy (just like the perfect butt!) and it would be unfair to expect such a thing from reality, wouldn't it?
I'm not the least bit threatened by porn, nor do I know anyone who is. Porn is fantasy acted out, just like those dudes from romantic comedies are fantasy versions of the men women want. For anyone to be jealous of or threatened by fictional characters is a bit...looney, if you ask me.
Everyone wants a fantasy, but we all know that in reality, it's going to be hard to find a girl that can look as good as a porn star, while taking it like a porn star, or a guy that remembers to put the seat down. | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 11:52:47 PM | Hehe ahh you just LOVE to rival me don't you... Actually yes in this case what we don't know won't hurt us... If you know your girlfriend or wife has a problem with porn then why tell her you watch it, why let her find your movies or your magazines? Seriously? Are you asking her to be angry with you?
There are many things we have in our lives which would be left better unsaid to our partners... Some things are better left to our thoughts and private selves...
Also... I do know women who are offended by porn... And yes like the "perfect bum" it is a fantasy... But like it has already been said people take fantasy out of proportion..... This is when it can become offensive...
Oh and do you two have an on going repost to my posts thing going on between you? | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 11:56:50 PM |
There are many things we have in our lives which would be left better unsaid to our partners...
I disagree with that. I think that if you're in a relationship with a person, they should know all of you...even if they don't like certain parts.
The solution clearly, if the SO will be mad, is to stop watching porn and ask him/her to be a bit more adventurous in the sack. Really though, if you think you need to hide it from him/her, they'll probably find out anyway, and then wonder how much else you are willing to do behind their back, lie and conceal... | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/29/2008 11:58:49 PM | If men were actually any good in the sack their partner could at least see they were learning something. Im sure your women folk wouldnt mind if that was the case. But it seems the more you watch the worse you get
(PS this is a stereotype, same way in which people stereotype women who dont like porn) | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 12:04:12 AM |
Actually yes in this case what we don't know won't hurt us... If you know your girlfriend or wife has a problem with porn then why tell her you watch it, why let her find your movies or your magazines? Seriously? Are you asking her to be angry with you?
Did you read what you just wrote?? You are openly admitting that lying and secrets are ok in a relationship. Lying about porn is as bad as lying about cheating, is as bad as lying about someone stealing the car, and smashing it up, and the black eye and bruised rips was from being mugged...when in fact you smashed into a tree driving drunk.
Lying is lying, and there is no room for it in a serious committed relationship
Oh and do you two have an on going repost to my posts thing going on between you?
She has her points, I have mine, it's sort of this fun game we came up with to pass the time.  | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/30/2008 12:07:14 AM | I never said one has to conceal the fact they watch porn, just if your girl happens to find it offensive do it when she isn't there or doesn't know you are doing it... for example, uh while she's at work or something along those lines... versus some men who will get up and go into the other room...
Also just because a man watches porn while he's with someone doesn't mean she isn't adventurous...
My ex fiance and I had the most amazing and wild sex life I've ever had... He was fantastic in bed, and he thought I was the best thing since sliced bread... But I gave him permission when I wasn't home or I was out of town that if he was frisky to have fun watch porn whatever... But to make sure it's put up when I get home cause he's mine and I want his attention put on me and not watching a video...
I have no prob with porn personally... Only way I would is if a man finds it consuming his life and he becomes addicted to it... | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/30/2008 12:10:21 AM | And yes there is a place for some things to be left unsaid... I have things in my past I do not tell my partners about even if I've been with them for quite a while... These are things that not even a family member knows about... Some things are left better unsaid... I don't mean things like cheating and such... but personal things yes... I'm sorry but some of us have spots of our lives we do not want others to know...
I figured about that much that you two were enjoying playing this game... I find it a bit boring... Actually... I'm just bored so I'm merely passing time by actually responding to your crap... If it was 3 am and I had nothing better to do other than sleep of course... I probably wouldn't give a flying f u c k what you say... Hehehe | |
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| why do some girls get so worked up over porn?
Posted: 5/30/2008 12:18:02 AM |
I figured about that much that you two were enjoying playing this game... I find it a bit boring...
Oh come on now Kitten (and I don't mean that in the patronizing, offensive way) it's not a game. Just a coincidence that we both have similar opinions on your view, and are both posting at the same time. You've been a good sport thus far. Sorry if i'm starting to bore you.
I am sorry that you have things in your life that you feel are okay to hide from loved ones. I know that at this point in my life, I don't think there could ever be anything I would keep from someone I love.
Nocatchyname has it right when he says that there is no room for lies (or witholding of information) in an honest, comitted relationship.
Perhaps i'll feel differently later in my life, but as it stands now, I don't think there is anything that I wouldn't be able to tell someone that I cared for.
Though I must say, that I think your view on porn is not that skewed, except for the idea that men should be more considerate of the fact that women are intimidated by the standards porn sets for sex. That's just an excuse for women, that isn't necessary. | |
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