| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/18/2008 8:10:09 PM | I dated, got engaged to and married someone who was barking mad crazy..
Of course, I did not know it at the time, but in hindsight could see "warning signs".
Depending on which doctor you asked she was Bipolar, Manic-Depressive, or schizophrenic.
Last doc treating her before the divorce told me he is 95% sure she is a high function schizophrenic, but he made her paper diagnosis (court ordered to get diagnosed, after being baker acte'd) "Severe Manic Depression with Schizophrenic Tendencies", as he did not want her to be locked up for long term/forever if she had another public episode.
It made for some scary times at home. I never knew who would be driving the bus when I came home, and sometimes you would see her face twitch and another personality take over.
Now, I am probably hyper-sensitive to stuff like that.. Never again. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/18/2008 8:55:22 PM |
On my side I never seen ghosts either but I am still open minded to have a discussion about it. I will not shut down someone because of beliefs.
Stop
You totally "shut down" both these ladies because of beliefs AND accused them of being "psychotic". Now you're contradicting yourself. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/18/2008 9:22:26 PM | If I went out with you and you told me this...
My ex was a great person but I discovered over time she was suffering from schizophrenia. She always kept this as a huge secret to everyone. However, when you get to know her more, you discover suspicious things. She was unreliable, in her own world often, she would see things that did not exist (auras and ghosts), she would have trouble expressing her feelings, etc... Basically the relationship was not sustainable and I ended it in good terms.
and then this...
Her: Do you believe in ghosts?
Me: I am not sure about that... How about you?
First you tell her your ex sees ghosts and then you tell her that YOU are not sure if you see them....this is a first date...!!!
Sht--I'd be getting the hel* outta there and going home and writing a forum about the schizo I had a date with... | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/18/2008 9:50:29 PM | A) Yep... I think I've got a tattoo on my forehead that reads "ONLY DATES PSYCHO'S"
B) Nope, never seen ghosts... just seen lots of people who are waaaayyyyy out of balance.
When they start talking paranormal and freaky stuff it's time to throw up the wall and treat it as entertainment then cut the experience short and find some really good excuses to get the hell out of there. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/18/2008 10:02:22 PM | NoMexShrek
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Depending on which doctor you asked she was Bipolar, Manic-Depressive, or schizophrenic.
Last doc treating her before the divorce told me he is 95% sure she is a high function schizophrenic, but he made her paper diagnosis (court ordered to get diagnosed, after being baker acte'd) "Severe Manic Depression with Schizophrenic Tendencies", as he did not want her to be locked up for long term/forever if she had another public episode.
It made for some scary times at home. I never knew who would be driving the bus when I came home, and sometimes you would see her face twitch and another personality take over.
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scary part is, you described her behaviour as, "like another personality takes over." This does not fit with the diagnosis' the doctors gave her. Scary to think that these doctors have the power to label, medicate and "lock up" individuals....
...you said it yourself.... depending on which doctor you asked... sad.... | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/18/2008 11:44:56 PM | Lol I swear I do not label someone schizophrenic until I have a solid basis to do so... I am not judgemental at all unless I notice things that doesn't give me the choice to be. And yes, I do believe in faith. Some things cannot be explained but there is a limit...
Regarding my ex, while I didn't see her medical file displaying her condition... She had these symptoms and many more:
- No affect, no emotion. She will appreciate you, but not love you.
- Hallucinations (auras and ghosts).
- Various conspiracies against her (people want to poison her) and the world.
- Various delusions or false beliefs. She thinks she knows more than everyone (a quote by her: "If I reveal too much of my knowledge to the wrong persons, I will pay the price" - wtf?)
- When I discuss with her and I corner her in an idea, she reacts in 3 ways: she changes the topic, she gets aggressive/defensive to me or she says she doesn't want to reveal her knowledge on the topic.
- Her strong aversion to pills, vaccine and doctors.
- She would spend nights studying quantic physic books alone at home instead of going out... Or often she got things planned for a night but she would forget she had something because she was too focused... The most unreliable person I ever seen in my life.
- She would not drink alcohol anymore... If you think about it, if you take anti-psychotic pills, you can't drink alcohol.
There is no way in hell you could call a person with this list of problems sane. While I do not have the tangible fact regarding her mental condition, she is schizophrenic with odds of 90%++ in any case... | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 1:49:26 AM | I dated a guy that had some kind of crazy need to pretendto be her cousin on MSN, tell me that "he" was going to marry her, because they just found out they weren't actually related, that I should snatch her up right away and I told "him" that sounds great, he should really enjoy "himself" with her. She used to claim she'd been beat up 1 week, no marks the next (we're talking a claim of being assaulted with weapons like bats mind you... to the face...) what's even better is she claimed her mom had cancer, she had cancer, she said she made out with that bif naked, the singer chick... I think once she claimed to be the only girl in a group of guys to do that amateurish "pro-wrestling" like with the barbed wire and shit.
It was ridiculous behavior. Most of the other girls I've dated are a little off balance, but not quite to that extent. We're talkin:
"Baked me cookies and never called me back" girl.
"Excessive attachment to her pubes" girl (claimed I was trying to change her because she asked if I liked the shaved look)
Plus just a long list of girls that we're either actually seeing somebody else (I can seem to pick them every time) or the odd one that can't think of a better excuse... | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 1:53:20 AM | I have reason to believe my ex is bi-polar...without going into detail he just has some depression and anger issues...but he has since realized those issues and has made an appointment for psychiatric evaluation :) He also talked about ghosts and spirits sometimes, but that is because he is wiccan and is very comfortable with the idea.
Now, to your point: I don't think seeing ghosts is the same thing as having psychotic behaviors. I am a very "tangible" person, as I believe someone said previously on this thread, and I'm an atheist. However, I believe in spirits or at least some form of existing energy of non-existing people. I believe it because I have experienced it.
Example: my former roommate is the most no-nonsense person you could ever come across. Very rational, very serious. However, she has told me that she has been plagued my spirits in one form or another since she was a child. I don't think she's crazy. She's just more open to that stuff than others. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 1:57:52 AM | | I should add that I am not talking about my roommate as my own experience with spirits or what have you. I've had my own. (Ironically, the second experience I ever had was in my roommate's parent's house, before I knew anything about her active little spirit buddies) | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 3:50:50 AM | | A person that does not believe in spirits and hauntings is becuase they have never experienced it. that does not mean that is it not real. the spirit world has always intrigued me becuase i know its real. i have had many experiences with it. I am not psycho at all but I am full of expericne wehn it comes to that kind of stuff.. not by my own choice. It is unfair for somenoe to call someone else psycho becuase they have experience with things that you dont. To say it doesnt exist becuase u yourself have never witnessed it does not in any way mean it is not real. jsut means u have lack of experience with it. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 6:10:11 AM | Whooooooaaa just a second...
You diagnosed these women as schizophrenic and psychotic?
I would very highly recommend that you see a doctor about the symptoms you have been displaying in this thread. I'm sure that will be easy for you to diagnose if you decide that a physician's counsel isn't necessary. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 8:11:21 AM |
Last doc treating her before the divorce told me he is 95% sure she is a high function schizophrenic, but he made her paper diagnosis (court ordered to get diagnosed, after being baker acte'd) "Severe Manic Depression with Schizophrenic Tendencies", as he did not want her to be locked up for long term/forever if she had another public episode.
It made for some scary times at home. I never knew who would be driving the bus when I came home, and sometimes you would see her face twitch and another personality take over.
Another personality taking over is not a symptom of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (severe manic depression) it's a symptom of MPD - Multiple Personality Disorder.
Schizophrenia has nothing to do with multiple personalities. This belief has long since been abandoned. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 11:29:08 AM | actually, the stigma associated with MPD is so damaging that the name has been changed to D.I.D. Dissociative Identity Disorder. Makes more sense considering there isn't actually a different personality per se taking over - only an altered state. Usually altered for good reason/coping.
You are right though Cndn Girl - they are three different diagnosis with different features... I find it odd that OP is using schizophrenia and psychotic as interchangeable diagnosis' .... I think his parents ought to stick to the doctoring ;) ...or perhaps maybe he is feeling rejected and to ease some of the pain is blaming her by labeling her crazy ...hmmmm....... | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 12:06:17 PM | This is a very interesting discussion. I have never dated anyone that I would call psychotic or delusional.
Would I be open to discussing the paranormal with a date - absolutely.
Do I believe in ghosts/spirits.... the verdict is still out. I am a woman of above average intelligence who is sane, rational and a bit analytical ...but I do believe there are things that can not be dismissed or ruled out just because I have not experienced them.
I am a Christian and as such believe in an afterlife and the teaching of the scriptures:
1-that God created us to be eternal beings and that because of the fall-- sin, and subsequently death, entered the world.
2-That God created angles and other heavenly beings, that 1/3 of them fell when Satan was thrown from heaven. And that Satan was given dominion over the earth...hummmm
3- That if a witch-the witch of Endor-could conjure up the ghost of Samuel, the prophet, for Saul, the king of Isreal to speak with then possibly there is such a realm as "the spirit realm. " The book of Samuel or Kings, don't remember now, in the Old Testament.
4-If you will note in the New Testament, Christ deals with many issues of demonic behavior..in fact he had an active ministry of casting demons from people...In one instance they spoke to him begging him not to cast them into darkness but rather a herd of pigs.
Who's to say those of us who don't see and/or believe are the crazy ones? | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 12:06:36 PM | | jeesh, aren't you the judgemental one? just because people have guides and are open to the possibility of spirits doesn't make them "psychotic"..... i met one of these types, she was a lovely woman, i didn't know her from adam and we only met in passing, i was in line at Walmart and was fumbling around in my purse for my credit card, dropped my daily planner upon which were clipped my employee id tag and car keys... she kindly bent over to retrieve the planner and smiled softly, handing me back my possessions.... " I see you are going through a terrible time now, but you have enormous personal strength and all the pain of the past is in the past." I was flabbergasted, my mother had just passed, it was a very traumatic relationship and violent death, she went on to elaborate, just very concerned I was being pulled into the darker shadows...and she was right, on every single point....and if talking to her spirit guides enables her to help other people like me, then I can't ascribe that this is psychotic in any way....there are things that can't be explained, there are forces unseen, be you call them God, angels, guides, the hereafter..... and I do believe there are those walking among us who do communicate with the realm most of us just are too stressed, busy, confounded by...we don't hone the skill of listening, watching, perceiving, we shut out 80% of what is really going on around us and we rarely use all the power our brains do possess. No, I never personally knew or dated anyone psychotic...... but somehow I am quite sure that the many walking wounded here on this site certainly might be on meds or undergoing therapy for traumas in their past, issues unresolved.... and seeking help, struggling with your demons is not a sign of weakness or anything to be afraid of, heck, I HAVE met a few recovering alcoholics here and they are, to a man, thoughtful, intelligent, sensitive survivors with nothing but positive qualities because they are so in tune with themselves and maintaining a healthier outlook. I guess I am just less quick to judge people, because I have found most to have wounds and scars that might cause issues, but there is nothing wrong at all with them if they actively work on newer, healthier behavior patterns. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 12:28:56 PM | being open is one thing,
but actually "seeing things" is 100% psychotic.
Sorry to burst the bubble.
There are many organizations out there, offering up to couple M$s,
whoever shows/proves the existence of ANY supernatural entity.
They've been around for years, still no takers....
my friend's uncle was one of these people.
He was a very educated man, with a great wife and kids.
Very sane, except the fact that he believed he was communicating
with aliens . He ended up in the nuthouse...
if you're seeing/hearing things, you better go see a doctor. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 12:59:10 PM | Yes I have dated someone with mental health problems, they were hidden and not diagnosed when we met and got together, unfortunately he had a 'crisis' and everything suddenly came out. It was a very difficult time for both of us but I didn't walk away. Over time our relationship deteriorated whereas our friendship and my new role as carer strengthened so we made the mutual decision to end the relationship and remain friends. He was psychotic and over time this has improved, he needs to live within his comfort zone however he probably still has a more diverse life than most 'normal' people.
Schizophrenia is different again, my next door neighbour lives with this on a daily basis. It affects his life and the lives of those around him.
However I think the main problem here is you. You seem to want to give reasons as to why these girls were unsuitable, perhaps the other 25 ladies were not your cup of tea, but these two turned you down and therefore you have a need to make a reason to have not continued with the relationship. You comented on her looks being better in real life than in the pictures she had online. Are you implying that pretty girls cannot have behaviours that you feel are clear indicators of a mental health problem? You seem to have run for the hills at the slightest issue, did you consider that if they do have a mental health problem they were actually needing a friend? Other people treating them as you have may not only worsen problems if indeed there are any but also leave them feeling more isolated.
As for the issue of ghosts, I have not seen a ghost, however I have at times felt prescences, attended a spiritualist church and known spiritualists, along with having visited, and benefited from a healer.
Before you try and suggest I have some major underlying mental health problem for what I have said I am fully aware of my mental status, it does not involve psychosis or schizophrenia. It does however involve a very long and rewarding process of getting over depression, anxiety and agoraphobia .
I just hope you did not meet this lady on pof in the hope that she is not reading your post and identifying her. If the lady in question is reading this then I wish you all the best in finding someone who deserves you and your time and and sending you best wishes and hugs. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 1:06:10 PM | | yarimelma if you dont bleive in spirits that is becuaes u have not had to deal iwth them but alot of people have. they do exist. it is not psychotic. Just becuase u have not experienced supernatural does not mean its not real .. it is real. | |
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