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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 1:40:15 PM | | come stay a night at my home where my ex killed himself ...that will be all the proof you need. everyone that had stayed with me knows its haunted. kids are scared. im in the process of hunting a place to move. neighbor kid was gonna stay night and got so scared of the toys going off by themslef that she went home. there is all kind of things going on here only since his death that cannot be explained. but outside of all this, i have lived in many haunted houses as a child growing up. Im well aware they exist. i dont belive my ex however is evil. i belive he is watching out for us. but im still not fond of ghosts. even my cat knows he is here in spirit . last night my cat which i have had for 17 yrs is my baby and she got scared and hid under computer desk. when i tired to pet her she bit me and hissed at me. my cat has never ever done that to me. somethign is here that scares her. i came home from getting kids from school one day nad i opened front door and cat was at back of house screaming in fear. you can tell by her voice. I ran back here to see her and she ran and hid. his spirit is here. cat knows it and so do me and kids. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 2:14:38 PM | Emphase, you are passing a psychiatric diagnosis based on what facts?
Maybe your ex gf was, or maybe she wasn't...In either case, you don't appear to have a psychiatric degree, thereby giving you license to diagnos anyone.
While her behavior is questionable, that doesn't mean she is schizophrenic. As others have said, there are 80% Americans that believe in God, and all that is written in the bible as the word of God... YET there isn't a single varifiable shread of proof that Jesus existed, and was the only begotten son of God...YODDY YODDY YODDY...
My point IS NOT to bash God fearing folk, but rather to point out people have all sorts of different beliefs.
My ex was extremely almost 100% unreliable, didn't make him a schizo, just meant hewas unreliable, because he was ADHD
She has a hobby of self study of quantum physics, so what? Are the thousands of books that are and WERE out there, schizophrenics too?
Yes, I and several witnesses have seen completely unexplainable stuff...In fact a former bf I lived with, and dated for 3 1/2 yrs lived in a house that you could hear disembodied voices, and there wasn't a soul around... He lived in the country and the closest neighbors happen to be the cemetary...
"If I reveal too much of my knowledge to the wrong persons, I will pay the price" - wtf?) See what happened, she revealed to much and you diagnosed her as schizo
- Her strong aversion to pills, vaccine and doctors.
There are a LOT OF PEOPLE that have those same fears, and if you knew what was in a lot of the crap that is on the market to HEAL folks, you would avoid some of these shots yourself.
She would not drink alcohol anymore... If you think about it, if you take anti-psychotic pills, you can't drink alcohol. This is my all time favorite, I know plenty of people that are on head meds, and they still drink like fish...
There are plenty of people that have conspiracy theorist minds, don't make them nuts, just paranoid. Just because you have experienced these things don't mean they aren't real... AND auras are visible, you just have to know what to look for... Heck they take pictures of them, if they can be seen in a picture, why wouldn't they be seeable to someone else?
No wonder girl #2 ditched you, you and her don't relate on the same level, and why would she want to be with someone that diagnoses people simply because they seem to believe they are Dr's by proxy? | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 4:08:32 PM | Nexthyme
1) Believing is one thing. Seeing is another. You are mixing these two by lecturing me that 80% of Americans believes in God. You know what? I believe in God as well. While I do not have a proof of it, I still have faith about it. Now if someone pretends to be God or having seen God, I would call the former crazy and I would have a more serious discussion with the latter. If the latter is displaying blatant inconsistencies of any type, I will either dismiss the discussion if the inconsistencies are small or dissociate myself from that person if the inconsistencies are big. That is my modus operandi. Please let me remind you only a SMALL % of girls I dated had these strange behaviours.
2) Now to come back with believing in ghosts and seeing ghosts, it is nearly the same thing. I don't have a problem if you believe in ghosts in the sense you make it a possibility for them to exist. I will respect any beliefs that are not forced back to me. If you experienced once something strange that could be described as a ghost, tell me about it. I will listen without judging you and I may even like the story... But if you see ghosts or spirits following you everywhere and with high frequency, then odds are something is occuring between your ears. In any cases, I do not doubt the person see those ghosts or spirits, I will even believe they actually do see them, but not for the same reason they think...
3) As for quantum physic books, sure it can be an obscure hobby of hers... But when she claims the whole world existence does not have any secret for her anymore, that she discovered the meaning of life and she knows why humans are on earth without wanting to discuss into details her "so-called" discoveries... While displaying all the anomalies I mentionned about, again it's between her ears.
4) Auras cannot be taken picture of.... The Kirlian effect is not considered a valid way of taking an auric picture scientifically as the aura around object is just some moisture effect of air interacting with the object... The only defense people seeing auras have to not reveal their so-called secret, is they don't want to do it in case malignant sources would use it for bad purposes. Which makes them superior beings as they hold some so-called knowledge only a handful does and are keeping it in their ivory minded towers... I call it BS.
5) Conspiracy theories may be okay... But when you think all your environment is a conspiracy, it is where things cannot "be okay"... Seriously, I'm quite irked you defend such behaviours that are clearly obvious signs of a mental issue. Even if it not a mental disease, it is a mental glitch in some form. It is not normal.. And if you are like that schizophrenia ex of mine I used to date while argumenting on this matter, you will say: "How do you define what's normal from anormal?" Okay take a meaningful sample of a population and throw in a bell curve. Throw is 2 standard deviations with 95% confidence interval, if you are out of that, you are NOT normal, you are anormal.
6) I do not have solid basis to judge the second girl I met as being either schizophrenic or psychotic... But her seeing spirit guides following her the same way as the movie "A Beautiful Mind" is a huge hint of a potential mental issue. Yes I found this girl amazing aside of this "obscure issue"... And yes it is a good point to justify why she was not worth pursuing despite displaying good qualities even if mutual interest was there. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 7:10:54 PM |
Seriously, I'm quite irked you defend such behaviours that are clearly obvious signs of a mental issue. Even if it not a mental disease, it is a mental glitch in some form. It is not normal..
I am not defending anything, other than you giving a diagnosis. You may be 100% right, however unless you have the schooling it takes to diagnos mental illness, then giving out a diagnosis like that is the unauthorized practice of psychiatric medicine. I don't know the girl, but from your sampling of "proof positive" for her being a schizo...Ummmm no that isn't proof positive, but rather yeah she does seem to have fallen off the bell curve at least a little.
I get irked when people slap labels on others, when they don't have the degree to be able to do so, simply because it is to easy to dismiss people as being mentally ill because they don't think the same way you or 68% of the rest of the population. (and yes I pulled that figure out of my butt, so don't quote me on the statistics of normal.)
I learned from my Medical Malpractice Professor that just because someone has a thought process that doesn't agree with my own, does not make that person crazy....Just a little off center...
Case in point, a very high profile attorney my professor works with completely refuses to go to the Dr's, and believes that the whole medical system has been infiltrated by aliens. When our professor told us that, we all thought the guy was 100% certifiably nuts... The professor said nope, he isn't nuts, but that is what the other attorney believes and who can say he isn't correct. Thus I learned the valuable lesson of not judging another persons thinking process simply because it doesn't flow with mine.
Shug there are differing variences to normal, and while it may very well be possible that your exs gf is nuts, and the 2nd girl was as nutty as she was. People experience a lot of different things, whether they are or aren't real that honestly is something we don't really have all the answers to.
If your ex gf, mentally self projected these "ghosts" and "spirits", that still is pretty freaking amazing and I sure as heck would like to know how the mind can do that. Just slapping a label on the person and saying they are psychotic doesn't work for me. I want to know how the heck that person' mind is able to do that, and why. I can guarentee you there isn't an answer to that in any book.
Personally I love to watch "ghost hunters", study the paranormal, and metaphysics myself, I find it interesting, and as I stated before, the experiences I had were not witnessed just by me, and they were things that had no explination, we looked for all possible reasons.
And no, I don't have ghost spirits following me around, just in case you want to lump me into the schizophrenic group.
Look you are young, and you still have plenty of time to decide that religion is just another form of controling people, in the name of some invisible entity we are all supposed to have faith that exists... You are young enough to still have a ghostly experience. If you don't, then that is ok, some people may hold it against you, and others won't...None of it will matter in a year or so... | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 7:11:22 PM | re: yarimelma
There are many organizations out there, offering up to couple M$s,
whoever shows/proves the existence of ANY supernatural entity.
They've been around for years, still no takers....
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
I dated a girl - shortly - that believed she had a "Spirit guide". Otherwise, perfectly normal, sane person.
The funny thing is, she thought spending $1,000 on an RC car was crazy...
It's all perception. It's this guy's right to believe people that believe in ghosts are crazy. I happen to side with him. It's REALLY funny that everybody passing judgement on him is doing exactly what he's doing, without realizing it.
and to kittens:
The ghosts don't want to hurt you. Ghosts speak Latin, you're probably misunderstanding them. Perhaps they're upset that you haven't gotten a Wii yet? | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 8:19:23 PM | | I am not trying to convince anyone there is a spirt, ghost, or anything else u want to call it. I know it is real and thats all that matters to me. everyone belives what they want. i know what is out there because i have experienced it. i dont expect anyone who has not experienced it to accept the possibility that it exist. if i had not have lived it I would not have belived in it eihter. so how can one who has never experienced it be expected to believe? they wont..their mind is closed until it happens to them. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 8:24:58 PM | The thing about claiming the existence of the supernatural is that the onus is on YOU to prove the fact, and not for us (the skeptics), to accept your truth willy nilly. It is just like anything else in real life that I give it no credence until I see the evidence.
So flying spaghetti monster, orbiting teapot, your on my does not exist list! | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 8:31:15 PM | | the only way it can be proven to you is if you experience it yourself. I have. no amount of pictures, no amount of anythoing is gonna prove it. If a film was made of it from the home , you still would not bleive it after watching it. you would accuse someone to setting it up.you have to go through it yourself in order to believe. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 8:37:20 PM | | Isn't saying that something that is akin to a hallucination must be experienced first hand somewhat illogical? I mean put me in a creepy house, alone, and fill me with stories about suicides and murders, and yeah I might start seeing things myself. Sort of an easy way out to say that we have nothing that detect these spirits and that we can only see them through our own flawed sensory perception. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 8:43:44 PM | | yes there is. what the spirits do to you or in ur home is all the proof a person needs. its not hallucinations. there is no way several people can see or hear same thing and it not be really happening. unless you would like to say all the people there that witness it are hallucinating. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/19/2008 8:53:13 PM | | Well suffice to say I have done all the supernatural stuff, tarot, ouji, sleeping in haunted houses and I can tell you I have been thoroughly disappointed. So I'm going to just have to agree to disagree with you =) | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 4:20:53 AM | | its ok that you disagree. you obviously didnt sleep in a haunted house. someone may have said it was haunted but it must not have reallly been. but hauntings are real. and i dont belive in tarot. just becuaes u have not witnessed things does not mean it dont exist. it does. and its scary as shit. in fact i have contacted a preacher to come bless my home. we are supose to meet wednesday. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 6:46:31 AM | | unfortunatly not everyone has same level of faith in God. I know he exist and I know what he can do however I dont go to church. even though we cant see him he does exist. As far as praying goes, i honestly dont see where they helps much probably due to the level of faith a person has but then that would rule out the people who are heavy church goers and let their children die waitng on God to heal them. Many familes have prayed and prayed for god to heal their child. The child dies. in the bible it says god helps those who help themselves. I guess they missed that part of the bible. it also says doctors were put here to help us. I guess they missed that part too. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 10:53:07 AM | ok, Kittens
I've been to haunted houses. I even participated in ghost hunting and spirit calling.
Everytime, only 'believers' felt the presence, and even they talked them.
I got up and screamed that they're all full of sh%t, I spat on the floor and told them to show themselves, challenged them.
Nothing. NADA. I've been told that I made them all angry, and I should watch my back. Again, NOTHING.
Last one was 7 years ago. These people stopped calling me, they didnt want me around, because I was not a 'believer'
Obviously those spirits, ghosts are afraid of me. I make them nervous...
So, I tell you what, its all bunch of BS. That's what it is.
Human Brain is a very powerful machine. And capable of manifesting all kinds of images, voices you name it.
Everything you 'see, hear, feel even your emotions (fear, happiness, pain, jealousy, love, sadness etc) they're all
chemical reactions in the brain.
Yes, I understand that the existence of another world/dimension gives hope to some people. And nothing's wrong with that.
But when you say, 'THEY ARE REAL". You're trying to make it a 'FACT'. Well, they're real to YOU. Certainly not to ME.
As I said, if you really believe that you house is haunted. You should definitely contact those organizations. There is big money
there. Why not get paid in the process, right?....
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 11:49:40 AM | For Kittens:
I have to say..some of the postings you have made I find a little disturbing. I know I made a slight 'joke' earlier about wanting to see Jimi live or dead but I hold onto the faith that Jimi has gone to heaven and no matter where he is he has taken his guitar especially if its for eternity. I'm hoping heaven is like Woodstock then I'll be able to hear all my favs!! If that makes me crazy..so be it. I'm just a hippie wannabe stuck in the wrong era is all.
But to get back to why I'm writing..my mother has told me that when her mother passed away she came to her and asked if she would be all right. Now my mom isn't crazy so I have no reason to doubt what she says as she holds onto this belief. but she is content with that experience. You and your children and your cat are not content..rather you sound fearful. You need to get yourself and your family out of there and possibly look at some therapy..if not for yourself for your kids. They need to get rid of the horror of it within their heads..no?
Good luck girlie............................................................................... dd101 | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 12:05:31 PM | Perhaps you should read the definition of schizophrenia before you label someone as such. Just because you don't believe, doesn't mean you have the right to lay judgement on others and label them insane.
There are many medical professionals who do believe in the sixth sense so does that mean they are practising while insane?
Move on if you don't share common interests and beliefs. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 12:10:09 PM | My cat also had similar psychotic behaviors! And he was my tough tomboy cat for 15 years.
I briefly lived in a house in Tulsa, there was one room my cat wouldn't go into. It was also a bit colder than the others, even in the summer, it was a sunken den with a fireplace. Nice house.
My cat would crouch down and hiss at no one in the room. It would be empty and he would growl, hiss, then crawl away. Not every day, but alot. Creepy. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 1:00:26 PM | Yarimelma, you have caught my notice since you have been so adamant that ghost don't exist; at the same time you list that you are a vampire. Is that a lark on your behalf?
Yes, I understand that the existence of another world/dimension gives hope to some people. And nothing's wrong with that.
But when you say, 'THEY ARE REAL". You're trying to make it a 'FACT'. Well, they're real to YOU. Certainly not to ME.
It isn't a big deal whether you believe ghost, spirits, et al at all. In fact you have plenty of life left to see one, or not, heck there are plenty of really amazing things I will not see in my life...
Let me leave you with this.
Is there really human spirits? You can't see them, in fact I have been to many surgeries as an x ray tech, and there wasn't a single opened up body that had a visible spirit... So that must mean since no Dr can actually see a human spirit, the human spirit really doesn't exist.
My point is this, life is all about having experience. A lot of people who aren't indoctrined with religion still manage to have some sort of belief of a higher power. Ghosts, and spirits, have also been a part of the human experience as long as man kind has been able to record events.
Whether it is a manifestation of the human mind, or it is some other force, so some it is very fascinating to explore that realm. For others, it isn't, they are into other things that entertain, or give them a sense of power, and well being.
I happen to know that there is a fairly large underground ( so to speak) movement of vampires, you state that in your profile...Maybe that is where you like to find a source of mysticism for you imagination, or it was just a lark.
There are many many many things that we humans don't know, and perhaps at this time being able to show "proof positive" that there are actual ghost, is something not yet available. However it is a growing field of interest, and it is something that has people designing better equipment.
You don't believe, and have not felt you have had any proof, that is perfectly fine, however being openminded isn't a bad quality either. It is not always about what is right or wrong, but what feels right to another person.
Don't get me wrong, there are some scary messed up people out there, I have seen them first hand. For me, I'd love to know how their brain actually can manifest the things they see... | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 1:34:51 PM | | varimelma, all it means is that you are without knowledge. and you are without knowledge becuase you have not experienced it. but again does not mean it dont exist. example....you cant see God either but he exist. I myself have never actually seen a ghost but i know that alot of people have. what i have done is experience numerous things that cannot be explained. and I have seen their shadows on the wall. i watched them walk when no one was there that i could see. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 11:26:46 PM | Its interesting that one can say "you can't see God but he exists". When you really can't just replace any nonexisting noun with God and have that sentence agreed upon the same way. Lets try, you can't see the land of narnia but you know it exists. Very compelling.
Since you can't prove to me that God exists what reason do I have to believe it? But I digress. | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/20/2008 11:34:58 PM | Sounds like this might be down to you
Two total strangers sit down with you in bars, and for no apparent reason start telling you they see ghosts, mmmmm, something is missing from this story. You are not dead are you? | |
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| Have you ever dated someone with psychotic behaviours?
Posted: 5/21/2008 1:14:04 AM | I sitll maintain that I dated some crazies, people with more issues than I'd like to deal with in a woman.
If you're living in a home where you know someone has died, wierd shit will happen that's for sure. Both my grandparents died in this house i live in, the electronic bell they used to ring for my mom to help em out still goes off randomly, they claim it's sprits, I claim it's a f*ckin bell that nobody has unplugged and is gonna respond to other signals coming into/through the house. Plenty of stuff could set it off. I
Oh and if your ex killed himself in a house you live in currently and you're going to try to tell me it's not possible that has affected you mentally, I'm gonna hafta find somethin else to read.
PS. I hear the land of narnia is a pimpin place to hang out, I totally believe i'm gonna meet harry potter and gandalf there, hopefully jessica alba's character from sin city shows up and takes an interest in hookin up with me too.. | |
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