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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:46:17 PM | lol @ lion!!!
When I am in a relationship I shave my legs.... but the other?? That can lead to so many other problems.. bad rashes, infection from ingrown hairs.. not everyone can do that easily and I think it boils down to the shape of the hair folicles..
I ditto on the pre-pubescent comment made earlier...
Also in many other cultures women do not shave anything not even under arms.
So it is a matter of choice.. the thing that bothers me about the OP is that he seems to be intent on his own sensabilities rather than deffering to someone on whose body the hair resides.. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:49:25 PM |
A trim is all well and good and necessary around bathing suit season , but no way on God's green earth am I going to rip out any amount of hair anywhere on my body, especially such a sensitive area.
Thanks but i prefer to look like a woman and not a girl. I fully confess to having lazy days and sometimes longer during the winter when no one can see my legs when i don't shave. I don't see what the big deal is. It's just hair. Unless a guy removes all his body hair on a regular basis all year round then i am not going to do it either.
Amen and well said Tuckerjo! I can't imagine a sensual woman (or man) enjoying the sensation of having their hair ripped out from that area! As a matter of fact, I am surprised it doesn't put a lot of people out of commission! Sensuality and pain just don't walk hand in hand where I come from. I agree with a bikini trim when one is in beach clothing but my God, PAYING to have one's pubic hair ripped out only shows how titched the public has gotten!
Not long ago, I read an article about the billions of dollars the grooming industry makes trying to convince the general public how downright filthy they are and people have bought into it.. hook, line and razor. Between feminine sprays, wearing sanitary napkins EVERY day to be "fresh" and this relatively new fad of being punished for growing hair, I often wonder what they are going to dream up next.
People.. common sense... Being shaved in the nether regions or having your hair all pulled out in a series of miserable yanks is NOT proof of cleanliness! It isn't like a badge of courage that people have to have pinned into their skin! The same person who is foul WITH hair will be equally foul WITHOUT hair...
My Gawd... for many generations there was none of this foolishness and WE all came to be here didn't we??? Do you think our parents wore clothespins or did they just bathe regularly???
If you like the look or if it makes you feel sexy, then by all means, go ahead but don't try to get those of us who know better to buy into this "we're all filthy" stuff!
And btw, I think men who shave down there look a lil strange. Last time, my ex tried that, I thought he looked a lil like a plucked turkey with its neck bare! 
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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:53:42 PM | I would tend to agree with this statement:
the thing that bothers me about the OP is that he seems to be intent on his own sensabilities rather than deffering to someone on whose body the hair resides.. but only if she came into the relationship full furred. However; she did not! She came into it nicely groomed, and then chose to keep her winter pelt... something he wasn't prepared for and was only subjected to after they became a couple. Not hair, I mean fair.. in my book. As said earlier though... seducing her to shave, rather than demanding she do it may have worked better for him. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:53:46 PM | vicious_vixen i need to agree with you on every thing you said
has any of you been to a beach where a womans pubs are stickin out or how do you all feel about lookin at a woman with hairy arm pits
iv been to beaches where womans pubs are hangin out and i really dont think that young kids or I need to see that if you men want to see that why not move to germany or something and let us american guys who like woman that take care of there selfs enjoy our trimmed bush ans shaved legs and armpits | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:02:03 PM | | Her body, her choice. If he didn't like it they broke up what's the big deal. I'd hate to think I'd get in a row with my BF simply because I didn't shave my legs one day. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:20:36 PM | I have to agree with Quazi....
If I am in a relationship, I like to please my man knowing it is a giving circle and what I give out I will get back....and so on and so on and so on... | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:25:06 PM | | The craziest thing is...............................they are now EXES yet in his original post he admitted they argued about this issue recently. God, let it rest already. You're exes! | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:32:49 PM |
Thanks but i prefer to look like a woman and not a girl.
I have to admit there is something very sexy about a woman's pubes, they're part of the whole package of what is so attractive about a woman's body. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:43:20 PM | Hey calling and hairy and non-hairy people, lets all just come together and share a big groups hug!! Isn't that better? The thing with this subject is that it's very personal but does also effect the other party involved. Personally there is nothing worse than a pube stuck inbetween ones teeth - we've all been there so I like a nice waxed point of entry, it's delicious to lick then but this does not mean have zero hair, a neat landing strip etc is fine and I personally think that men that get off on a completely shaved look is a litle bit too close to wanting a 'little girl' if you get my meaning. Also, I think in this subject it requires give an take, as I have a preference to a small tidy amount of hair, this is also how I keep myself and I've received many compliments on being'well groomed' downstairs and apparently in the words of a few female friends 'there is nothing worse than trying to give a BJ in a forest'!!  | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:17:49 PM | I had to post as this is a sore subject for me. I will agree with the OP and one or two others that think the same way. I know the OP was originally asking about “down below”, but does anyone NOT remember that article on Julia Roberts a few years back? The one where the camera caught her armpits? There were a lot of people who thought that was disgusting and she should have shaved. The same thing applies down below, why would you want everyone to know you don’t shave? I think his EX got lazy and decided she already had him, so why go through the effort?
How many people see a guy with a lot of back hair with a wife beater on and think “gross?” Same thing applies here, just different sexes.
And for the ones who said the OP should help her shave? WTH?? What’s next, helping her go to the bathroom?
I guess I’m not normal as his EX states, as I personally shave everything everyday, the season doesn’t matter. I don’t think I’m less of a lady because I do, like some people seem to think. Besides, shaving doesn’t hurt and takes an extra two minutes in the shower. And in the winter and your legs are dry, it's called moisturizer. It works wonders. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:20:08 PM | tsk tsk tsk....litefoot77
when u grow up u can...perhaps finish school and learn to spell! shouldn't make fun of someone and put them down when you can't even type the insult out correctly! i still don't see why people are so upset at this guy's reaction. i'm all about being the independant woman, however, if a woman expects to be treated like a lady and be respected by her partner, she also has to respect her partner and their feelings. again, he never said she had to wax or use a depilatory...keeping it from being overgrown weeds would have been sufficient as he already stated more than once!
kudos to Perfect 4 You. nice to see another woman who can really see where this guy is coming from and doesn't automatically make the assumption that he has "control issues"!
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:25:30 PM | | Nice to know there are some REAL men left...you, a sydney male, are obviously one of them. I honestly believe there is something wrong with people who find hair distasteful and oral sex a chore because of it...makes me wonder if they really enjoy sex at all or appreciate the natural beauty of the opposite sex | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:27:59 PM | Vicious Vixen: Amen! I am in total agreement. Following this thread and how it's evolved is quite entertaining. I too noted that the OP desired his lady to maintain her tweety trimmed/not bare.
I personally believe that one of the wonderful aspects of being a woman is maintaining ourselves. i.e. hygiene, trimming/maintaining our pvt parts, nails manicured, physical condition, etc...............not just for our partner, but for OURSELVES! | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:29:08 PM | circe 1...
^^it isn't about being a chore. how disgusted is someone in a restaurant when they find hair in their food? mmmmmm yeah nothing better than gagging on fur balls while making love circe 1! that definitely sets the mood when you need a weed wacker to find your way! oh baby that's hot! 
also, i noticed that some people who are ripping this guy apart about this saying it's her body, etc., feel a woman should trim when wearing a bathing suit so that strangers aren't looking at it, etc. shouldn't it be the other way around? her partner, the one who sees it up close on a regular basis (among other things!) doesn't count? that's ridiculous. so it's more important for a person to take care of themselves and worry about the feelings of those who do not know them, don't care about them for public outings more so than the person they share a bed with? god forbid a person cares more about their mates feelings than the general public and strangers. duh! shot yourselves in the foot with that one folks!
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:31:45 PM | Maybe they like to kill two birds with one stone while they are "down under"....and floss while they are at it? | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:48:30 PM |
i posted a while back about religion in a relationship. i broke up with a guy because i wouldn't attend church once in a while with his parents and nearly everyone in that forum told me that i should have compromised for his sake because relationships are all about compromise if it means making the other person happy...while this is different, why should people alter their beliefs and feelings
Going to church does not involve 'altering beliefs and feelings'; it just involves getting into a vehicle and travelling to a location where you sit for a while. You were being stubborn and uncooperative in refusing to go. Getting in a snit because your SO refuses to take a sharp object to her delicate skin is not at all the same matter.
The OP was quite definite in stating that he finds hair 'disgusting' so I don't see how you're defending him by saying he only wanted her to trim.
Remember, this is his EX (she, doubtless, ditched him for being so demanding) and he is STILL fighting about this. If you don't think he's got 'issues with hair on' ( ), then good luck to you in the dating world - you may end up with one just like him. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:49:21 PM |
I too noted that the OP desired his lady to maintain her tweety trimmed/not bare.
I think what a lot of people here objected to, including myself, was the fact the OP pestered and badgered and harangued his ex into fitting into his narrow requirements. That to me spells control issues.
I personally believe that one of the wonderful aspects of being a woman is maintaining ourselves. i.e. hygiene, trimming/maintaining our pvt parts, nails manicured, physical condition, etc...............not just for our partner, but for OURSELVES!
Well said. Be true to yourself and have someone that shares the same values. I would run a mile from a woman that wanted to be with me, and then decided she wanted to adjust and tinker with me because I didn't quite fit her ideal. She either wants me for who I am or she can find somebody else. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:53:30 PM | ^^it isn't about being a chore. how disgusted is someone in a restaurant when they find hair in their food? mmmmmm yeah nothing better than gagging on fur balls while making love circe 1! that definitely sets the mood when you need a weed wacker to find your way! oh baby that's hot!
It's all about expectation. When I go to a restaurant, I expect to have food in my mouth - not hair and particularly not the hair from a stranger. Similarly, when I am making love to my lover, I don't expect to find food but I do expect to find hair because my lover is ALWAYS a grown man.
I don't know what kind of baby apes some of you people dine on but for the most part, when a man has showered, any extranneous hair is already gone. And I am not chomping away at him in a way that would pull his hair out! The most sensitive areas don't even have any hair.
That remark about people liking to floss is just silly and offensive. I won't dignify it with any more of a response than this. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 7:04:34 PM | | I couldn't agree with you more Silken Fire...there is nothing sexier than a man in his natural state, and I am sure any man would likely pick up on a woman's displeasure with his hair and be totally turned off. I want the whole package....and the beard too if he has one! You better believe 'that's hot'! | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 7:04:53 PM | asydneymale: While I don't agree on the wording of the OP's verbiage i.e. anger, etc.....over whether the woman shaved or lack there of.......it is not my place to determine or assume if the OP has anger management issues. That is something that he obviously needs to address.
My input is on how I believe a woman and man for that matter should maintain their "temple"..........However, different strokes for different folks. To me, body hair is not something I'm going to sit here and try to convince/bash people on what they should or should not try/like. To each his/her own. Some need to lighten up here for crying out loud - we are talking about hair.
With regards to "changing" someone. Ain't going to happen in this life time. When I am with someone, it is because I love who they are; quirks and all.
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Posted: 5/19/2008 7:05:36 PM |
I think what a lot of people here objected to, including myself, was the fact the OP pestered and badgered and harangued his ex into fitting into his narrow requirements. That to me spells control issues.
Exactly SydneyMale... Going off on someone because they don't "live to turn us on" is the ultimate in silly. Anyone who thinks that the person they get together with is ALWAYS going to be exactly the same as they started out to be has a lot to learn about what is truly important in a love relationship. If he'd gone in front of the court to ask for a divorce (and I KNOW they weren't married) based on the fact that she wasn't shaving as often as he wanted her to, the judge would have laughed him out of the courtroom.
I also agree that it is wonderful to be a human being and be able to take care of ourselves with pretty things and good health... I believe I have kept myself up rather well over the years. I still like to look like a grown-up woman and prefer a man to look like a grown up man... And I sure didn't freak when turkey neck showed up... (Altho' I did spent a few minutes in the other room trying to wipe the smile off my face).
Edit: Sure Sabrosura... I'll even be womanly enough to let you go first... | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 7:05:49 PM | | i agree with you, it looks like you trying to look like a little girli have tried shaving my muff and it bothers me for a man to look at me that way. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 7:08:52 PM | Mz. Fire: "That remark about people liking to floss is just silly and offensive. I won't dignify it with any more of a response than this. "
In my neck of the woods, we call my comment a tongue and cheek JOKE. 
Lets all focus on far more important things than pubic hair.
Edit: Thank ya darling - you are such a peach. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 7:15:54 PM | Going to church does not involve 'altering beliefs and feelings'; it just involves getting into a vehicle and travelling to a location where you sit for a while. You were being stubborn and uncooperative in refusing to go. Getting in a snit because your SO refuses to take a sharp object to her delicate skin is not at all the same matter
although this post isn't about religion, i brought that up as an example, how people thought i should compromise on something as serious as religion but a girl shouldn't yield on something that she had initially done when she began seeing the guy and then just stopped. it isn't as though i went to church with this guy and then one day decided i was uncomfortable. just as nearly everyone does not expect someone who is not christian to walk into a christian church, i should not be expected to. it's extremely offensive. what a stupid f'n remark to say that someone should do something they are uncomfortable with in regards to their beliefs and something that is a socially serious issue, but trimming a few hairs is a big deal!?! do you realize how dumb that sounds? hate to break it to you, but she could have used an electric razor with a guard on it also to keep from getting out of control....there are many on the market that come in many shapes in sizes. not trimming a few measly hairs to please your partner when you did it when you first got together is being stubborn and uncooperative. what is more of a serious social issue here? religion or pubic hair???
now that i've dealt with the village idiot, back to the topic at hand...
I don't know what kind of baby apes some of you people dine on but for the most part, when a man who has showered, any extranneous hair is already gone. And I am not chomping away at him in a way that would pull his hair out! The most sensitive areas don't even have any hair. That remark about people liking to floss is just silly and offensive. I won't dignify it with any more of a response than this
ok, i'll say it again....it doesn't/didn't need to be bare, just well groomed! for cripes sakes, some people's body hair is out of control and simple bathing doesn't look after it! when it's bursting from the seams of your drawers that is not sexy! when you have to comb your way through to find what you are looking for that is not sexy!...did it occur to anyone that perhaps this girl may have been one of these people? i'll repeat myself again, he simply asked numerous times, politely at first, over a long period of time to get it a little neater and she refused when she used to do it. she also used to shave her legs and stopped doing that as well. THAT is being stubborn, uncooperative, lazy, selfish and disrespectful to her partner. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 8:03:53 PM | I think what a lot of people here objected to, including myself, was the fact the OP pestered and badgered and harangued his ex into fitting into his narrow requirements. That to me spells control issues.
ok, what part of this is controlling?
Personally, hair disgusts me. She knew this as we talked about it earlier in our relationship...The longer we were together the longer the time between shaving her legs and muff became...After many polite failed attempts, i finally snapped and asked what the hell was wrong with her...For the record, i'm not talking about a few days worth of stubble, or even a week, i'm talking weeks and up to a month and a half and i'm talking 70's muff here folks... 70's! Take it in :-)
A) people do not seem to know how to read. B) people do not seem to how to comprehend what they are reading or C) a combination of both A+B
so her later refusing to do what she did in the beginning, knowing full well he didn't like it, not seem a bit more controlling? it does to me...seems like she's trying to control the sex life for whatever reason rather than be honest perhaps (just an idea, not fact although i'm sure many will comprehend it incorrectly!) she knew going into the relationship how he felt about it and could have decided to not continue seeing him rather than take the relationship to a more serious level, if she felt that strongly about it (which she obviously didn't if she did it to begin with). by staying with him, it seems as though she was trying to change, badger and harangue him just in a less vocal and more subtle manner.
[insert example here] so when a wife asks her husband repeadily to take out the garbage only to have it sit there for a week and then blows up at him she's controlling too right? OR when a mother asks her child for a month to clean his/her room and then grounds them or yells and becomes extremely agitated by that must mean she's abusive and controlling right?[end of example]
it isn't a "control" issue when someone makes their feelings clear upfront on any issue. it's a control issue, antagonistic and just plain childish when someone who is fully aware of the bothersome issue refuses to respect a person's feelings when they had no problem doing so in the beginning. | |
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