| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/23/2008 9:18:18 PM | I mean really...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
Clinton cites Kennedy assassination in primaries
By DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writer
Quote:SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton referred Friday to the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968 Democratic campaign as a reason she should continue to campaign despite increasingly long odds.
Clinton was responding to a question from the Sioux Falls Argus Leader editorial board about calls for her to drop out of the race.
"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know I just, I don't understand it," she said, dismissing the idea of dropping out.
Clinton said she didn't understand why, given this history, some Democrats were calling for her to quit.
Her remark about an assassination during a primary campaign drew a quick response from rival Barack Obama's campaign.
"Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.
Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee said the senator was only referring to her husband and Kennedy "as historical examples of the nominating process going well into the summer and any reading into it beyond that would be inaccurate and outrageous."
In the same editorial board meeting, Clinton said her campaign has had no discussions with Barack Obama's aides about her possibly becoming his vice presidential pick.
"It is flatly untrue and it is not anything I'm entertaining. It is nothing I have planned and it is nothing I am prepared to engage in. I am still vigorously campaigning."
The Obama campaign also dismissed reports that there were talks going on between the two campaigns about putting Clinton on the ticket.
Obama has an almost 200-delegate lead over Clinton and is just 56 delegates short of the number needed to clinch the nomination, making Clinton's goal of catching him more difficult by the day. The primaries end June 3.
Clinton spent the day campaigning in South Dakota, which holds one of two June 3 primaries. At stake are 15 delegates.
Recent reports suggested she may be discussing ways to end her campaign by being offered the vice presidential slot underneath Obama, but she rejected that and said she suspected the talk was coming from Obama aides.
"I would look to the camp of my opponent for the source of these stories," she said. "People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa."
Two of those recent reports, however, were attributed by CNN and The New York Times to supporters of Clinton.
Meanwhile, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., a staunch Clinton supporter, said Friday that she believes that if Obama becomes the nominee he should select Clinton as his running mate.
"I think as this race has emerged each one of them has garnered a different constituency and different states, and therefore when you put the two of them together it forms, I believe, the strongest ticket," she told The Associated Press in a phone interview.
"Women feel very strongly about Hillary and African-Americans feel very strongly about Barack, and the election results show that, and the young versus old, the higher educated versus the working person. ... All these things are sort of separated out into one or the other so there is a logic in combining the two constituencies."
Feinstein is a longtime friend and supporter of Clinton's. So would Clinton accept the vice-presidency?
"I think anyone accepts if asked - whatever they say," Feinstein said.
Former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson is overseeing the early vetting of possible vice presidential running mates for Obama, Democratic officials say. He did the same job for Democratic nominees John Kerry in 2004 and Walter Mondale in 1984.
Many of the people Johnson checked for Kerry will be likely candidates for Obama's consideration. Those names included Sen. Clinton, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, anti-war Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Kerry's eventual choice, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.
Obama refused to acknowledge Johnson's role when The Associated Press asked the Illinois senator about it Thursday.
"I haven't hired him. He's not on retainer. I'm not paying him any money. He is a friend of mine. I know him," Obama said. "I am not commenting on vice presidential matters because I have not won this nomination." | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 10:05:13 PM | I am most disappointed because I used to think so highly of Hill. But then she ran for president and too many of her true colors came to light.
These days, I am convinced she is quite insincere, cold hearted, and will stop at nothing to get herself elected. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 10:29:19 PM | loveoregon wrote:
I am convinced she is quite insincere, cold hearted, and will stop at nothing to get herself elected.
Very telling that she mentions an assassination.
I am convinced that Obama should be VERY careful between now and the
Democratic Convention. If he does wind up with the nomination, he won't
be crazy enough to have her as his running mate. That'd put him 6 feet under
for sure.
The woman will stop at NOTHING. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 10:42:22 PM |
Very telling that she mentions an assassination.
Your thought did cross my mind too, I just didn't have the _____ to say it! | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 10:51:48 PM | LOL, well, I certainly don't lack that........ 
Just was on CNN.com and she's now backpeddaling -- err, explaining......
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/23/clinton.comments/index.html
Clinton explains RFK assassination reference
BRANDON, South Dakota (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton said Friday that she regretted comments that evoked the June 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy as part of her explanation for why she was staying in the presidential race late into the primary season.
Earlier Friday afternoon, she told the editorial board of the Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Argus Leader that "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said.
Clinton complained that "people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa" and said that position "historically ... makes no sense."
Later at an event in Brandon, South Dakota, she said, "Earlier today, I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Sen. Kennedy waged in California in June in 1992 and 1968, and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nominating primary contests that go into June. That's an historic fact." Watch more of Clinton's comments to the editorial board ยป
"The Kennedys have been much on my mind in the last days because of Sen. [Edward] Kennedy, and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever," Clinton added.
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It goes on from there, and there's a video on the site of her "explaining". | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 11:14:29 PM | Like most anything she's gotten called on for, it's been a mistake or she misspoke.
puhlease. She knows exactly what she's doing, trying to stir fear in the thoughts of others that Barack may run the risk of being in danger if becomes president. She'll stop at nothing. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 11:19:58 PM | | Who can even surmise what more ignorant things will come out of their mouths in the ensuing weeks winding down to the Convention. This is too good and shows the real hypocrisy of the liberal agenda. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 11:30:03 PM |
This is too good and shows the real hypocrisy of the liberal agenda.
Wrong. Maybe the hypocrisy of Hillary, but not of everyone else. Did Senator McCain tell you to write that? John....is that you? Pretending to be Bob-O-Link? You can come out now little boy........the game is over. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 11:41:13 PM | "...the real hypocrisy of the liberal agenda."
 Unlike Bush, McCain and their cronies, who are the epitome of goodness and light!! Talk about hypocrisy!!! Gotta love it when some apologist for the "right" manages to stick not just one, but BOTH feet in their mouth!! | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 11:51:02 PM |
"The Kennedys have been much on my mind in the last days because of Sen. [Edward] Kennedy, and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever," Clinton added.
Most here know I have no use for the Clintons - none, zip, nada...however, I do think this has been played up wayyy out of proportion.
Using the reference to R. Kennedy's assassination in June and the location.. was more than likely simply as she stated... to demonstrate that primaries go into June, etc. She used a reference point that most would remember. Simple as that. On this specific instance. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 11:52:09 PM | | Then you are truly in the minority in thinking that. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 11:55:28 PM | I probably am. Thing is I am not dogmatic in looking at something/situation...no matter if I like the person or not.
It is how I, personally, interpreted this specific incident and what popped into my mind right off when I read what she had said and the context it was said in.
Kinda like the Obama quotes from his books and his supporters putting those things in perspective.
And, heckfire... I'm a total opposite of being a Clinton supporter. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 3:35:42 AM | i'm with jedi girl - i can't believe with all that is important when it comes to the nomination process, that the media focuses on such stupid points. from the context of which she spoke, she was obviously indicating the "game isn't over til' it's over" and cited 2 examples where 2 nominees went right to june in their campaign for the nomination.
i understand scrutinizing each nominee and what they say but this one is ridiculous. hillary and obama say lots of stupid things that are much more telling about how they plan to run the country. those are the things americans should be focused on. (oh, and i'm not saying mccain hasn't said plenty of stupid things as well...) | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 5:56:33 AM | Surely she didn't
She did, and don't call her Shirley.
Sorry, I don't mean to demean the post or the thread, but it had to come out.
I'm not much of a Hillary fan, especially these days, but I'm not sure how I feel about this comment. Part of me wants to believe it was a gaffe, just verbal diarrhea, but part of me remembers what every single side of the media reminds us of daily: that there are no missteps made by the Clintons. Each comment, each speech, each vote and each person they align with is carefully selected and used with intent.
I sincerely hope it was just verbal diarrhea. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:05:07 AM | | I'm seeing a pattern here of wealthy powerful politicians/Democrats who have made egregious comments recently. It's always refreshing when the public holds intelligent/powerful people accountable for their statements. We have to stop making excuses for people like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, John Kerry and others who know exactly what they are saying but then try to backpeddle and use excuses like "misspoke". | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:35:25 AM | | If her explanations of her "misstatements" are true, she has proven herself to be someone that does not think before she speaks. The number of times she's had to explain "misstatements" should be alarming when considering this is a person that would be speaking to foreign leaders and diplomats regarding sensitive issues. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:42:33 AM | She's made similar statements about Kennedy assassinations in this campaign but none were so grossly off the chart. She needs a long rest and maybe therapy too. This is a good time for the guy with the hook to drag her off the stage before she melts into a puddle of water, Oz style.
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:48:04 AM |
We have to stop making excuses for people like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, John Kerry ...
Why do I have the feeling you're probably fine with the gang of criminals hold up in the White House.
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/24/2008 7:51:20 AM | To me it seems to look like it's desperate and it's playing really one of the lowest cards in the deck when people (whether public figures like her or even people on forums or what have you) start saying or implying that he could be assassinated. Obviously any public figure could be. Bush has such a record high disapproval rating, and judging from some of the domestic protests clearly some of the hatred of him here (to say nothing of abroad) seems to be running at a fairly passionate level. Do people say or imply that he could be assassinated? I've never heard it.
It seems to me it's another backdoor way , w/Obama, of getting at the race issue again. Because it triggers in many peoples' minds, "he'd be the first minority president, I'm sure there are some people who may be moved to an irrational murderous rage by that fact...", etc.etc. So it's both a scare tactic (reminds people of a national trauma like the Kennedy assassination, even a terrorist act by today's standards, and seems to hint, if you choose this man....this is what will happen...he won't make it), and it's an indirect way of speaking to "black and white" yet again. It's low and cheap, to say nothing of highly cynical, and if phrased only slightly differently could even perhaps be taken as vaguely threatening. | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/24/2008 7:55:33 AM | As per CNN, Hillary made those exact comments in March to some magazine, so likely it was no mistake, but a calculated comment.
No question it was idiotic of her, but i really don't understand how could people associate this comment with a possible assassination attempt on Obama....it never, ever entered my mind. I can't tolerate the woman, but come on, how would this comment help her in the least??? | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 8:34:11 AM | Jedi said:
Using the reference to R. Kennedy's assassination in June and the location.. was more than likely simply as she stated... to demonstrate that primaries go into June, etc. She used a reference point that most would remember. Simple as that. On this specific instance.
Thanks for the breath of fresh air in here Jedi_Girl. She didn't mean anything like what has been implied by the media with this at all. It was simply a time-reference point. And of course she said so too. But if you are media, or if like the media, you are fanatically pro-Obama, you are largely anti-Clinton with a vengeance, so you lay in wait for something that could be considered a potential verbal slip, to dissect and blow way out of context. Phew!  Even the media is largely owning up to this now.
-Suth'nBoy 
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Posted: 5/24/2008 8:50:13 AM |
so you lay in wait for something that could be considered a potential verbal slip, to dissect and blow way out of context.
Wow, does that classify as a Freudian slip or what.
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Posted: 5/24/2008 9:03:32 AM | "It was simply a time-reference point."
Suth'nBoy,
What kind of time-reference point? Something like: Do you remember when we didn't have problems like this? or maybe: Those were the days when people took care of business right away!
I sincerely hope that it wasn't the case with Hillary, but now I have a serious doubt, not much different from the doubt that I have regarding the "joke" by Huckabee.
I have said it before in another post: if politicians or talking heads keep on bringing this up, for whatever reason, they are playing a very dangerous game. They are laying the grounds for fanatics or lunatics desperate for their 15 minutes of attention. Once the enemies of democracy find their trigger man, the rest would be a movie that we have already seen. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 9:10:11 AM | I really have to wonder if it wasnt some kind of Freudian slip on her part that she wishes Obama dead by an assassin. Thats the second time, Huckabee made a reference to him dodging a bullet, too.
I wonder what they know, eh? | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 9:10:45 AM | I really have to wonder if it wasnt some kind of Freudian slip on her part that she wishes Obama dead by an assassin. Thats the second time, Huckabee made a reference to him dodging a bullet, too.
I wonder what they know, eh?
Barak better cool it with the transparency talk........... | |
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