| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/28/2008 8:45:43 AM | I was wondering if your still a smart person who smokes and does drugs...or even drinks alot....the reason being if your smart or highly intelligent then shouldnt it occur to you that your killing your body from the inside out which these things effect your brain function as well ???
AM i wrong ?
What are your thoughts on this....someone was talking about it this at work so i thought i would post it...this dude walks around like he is Mr newton or something but has the worse smoking habbit and drug habbit going....or something like dat she said haha... | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/28/2008 9:23:21 AM | Plus there's intelligence and slow suicide.
Most people don't deny that what they're doing is killing them, they still do it despite the knowledge. The STUPID ones are the ones who claim that smoking doesn't affect them, or that drinking 6 beers every night is okay with their bodies. | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 10:53:03 AM | if your smart or highly intelligent then shouldnt it occur to you that your killing your body from the inside out which these things effect your brain function as well
So are you suggesting that Hemingway wasn't intelligent? Winston Churchill? The list could go on ad infinitum. If you research addiction a little bit, you will see that intelligence has very little to do with it. Even if it did, if someone chooses to do something that may shorten their life, does that automatically mean they are unintelligent? | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 10:57:38 AM | The smart person will weigh the positives and negatives...the pros and cons... and then make an informed decision about how to live their life. But the smart person also can acknowledge that being smart does not give them extra oodles of self-control, nor does being smart make one in favor of denying themselves that which brings them pleasure, even if it is destructive.
Not that I smoke, drink to excess, or do drugs...and yes I think all 3 are pretty stupid habits to have. LOL
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 11:37:17 AM | Like drive a gas guzzler?
Use excessive energy?
Buy sweatshop clothes?
Buy bigger houses?
Oh! Sorry.
You were asking about damaging your body?
Wait? Do these count?
Like breath polluted air?
Drink contaminated water?
Drink alcohol?
Drink sodas?
Eat fast foods?
Eat high fructose corn syrup?
Eat processed foods?
Eat high fat foods?
Eat high glycemic foods? | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 11:45:34 AM | Hahaha nice ending to your post. I believe if your mind is strong enough you can come off any drug or addiction. I think if your well informed about what it does to you, but in most cases ppl dont know the full infomation about what they are doing to themselves....alot of it is myth :P
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 12:40:56 PM | I would actually venture to guess that there is a positive correlation between inherent intelligence and drug use- just like the correlation between intelligence and depression. But that is neither here nor there.
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=33346 | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/28/2008 1:27:30 PM | Life is 100% fatal, no matter how 'smart' you live. Whether your life ends as a centenarian of 'natural' causes or tomorrow under the wheels of a bus, you'll be just as dead as the next guy. That bus won't care if you smoke and shoot heroin or rescue babies from fires...it'll still flatten your a$$.
I'd be willing to bet that even the most health-conscious fish could do better. Excessive jogging destroys cartilage in your joints, for example. Sounds like self-inflicted damage to me. Better stay in bed, but beware of infected bedsores.
Heck, half the things I enjoy most are dangerous in one way or another. Bus-dodging is my specialty.
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 1:27:40 PM | Some of us have certainly been down the depression route - not saying I'm a brain surgeon, but I reckon the reason I didn't end up with a degree was that I was forced to devote all my intelligence to trying to make sense of what seems to come naturally to others.
Re. the self-harm thing ... in my 30s while I was starting to deal with my problems, I opted to "rave" it out of my system, though I'm very happy to say my substances of choice were prozac and cannabis and not alcohol. I didn't fancy ecstasy - though it's used in relationship therapy and is remarkably non-toxic - assuming you could get a clean prescription ...
I actually got mega-fit - nothing like repetitive beats and a psychedelic with muscle relaxant properties to get you through 5 hours of continuous power aerobics and the 2 mile walk home. (I hasten to add I wore earplugs)
The things that have REALLY threatened my life are the emotional stuff I've had to work through (which plenty of "helpful" people suggested required no more than the proverbial "stiff upper lip").
... oh, and the ready availability of fattening food. | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 2:06:20 PM | I know more people who have done drugs, then people who haven't. What's more, among those who have done drugs, most of them are engineers, mathematicians, computer scientists, and philosophers. Therefore, I can confirm, first hand, what gregorywb is pointing to. However, I also know of exceptions to the correlation. I have a two friends who are addicts, flat broke, with no prospects.
What I'm trying to say is that doing drugs, alcohol, etc., and being an addict are two different things. A lot of people assume that if you do drugs, you are an addict.
The difference, as I perceive it, between my two addict friends, and my other friends is that the latter have self control and know when to stop, and exercise moderation, where as the former lack those qualities.
I was wondering if your still a smart person who smokes and does drugs...or even drinks alot....the reason being if your smart or highly intelligent then shouldnt it occur to you that your killing your body from the inside out which these things effect your brain function as well ?
All one needs to do is point out that water, in large quantities, can kill you, just like alcohol, or drugs, or over eating. Staying in the sun for too long on a hot day can cause skin cancer or even heat stroke. What I'm getting at is that doing drugs, alcohol, etc. does not imply you are hurting your body. Doing a lot of those things, does. A glass of wine each day is actually beneficial. A bottle of wine each day, not so much. | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 3:53:42 PM |
Winston Churchill had an IQ of about 110. He was good with people though not an intellectual.
So you would therefore say he was not intelligent? Not sure where your info comes from, but in any case, it helps make my point that intelligence is somewhat subjective. There are (and have been) many people in the world with addictions that may be otherwise brilliant. | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 4:17:52 PM | "DietCoke - Winston Churchill had an IQ of about 110. He was good with people though not an intellectual."
That is absolutely not true about Churchill!!!! Why do people just make that kind of thing up? He was a gifted statesman, wrote brilliant multi volumed histories of English speaking peoples and the second world war, among other things, won the Nobel prize for literature, was an accomplished painter and one of the greatest orators of the 20th century. | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 4:24:19 PM | | How do you know for sure 100% that he did not have a ghost writer ? I mean it happends all the time, most of the stuf all the presidents say are all prewritten for him. Bush must of had the stupidest ones so far lol.....but really who is to say that intelligence is something that makes you smart? your intelligence might only be on making bread. So your the most intelligent at it, or making a car or plane etc....but you could be a totally idiot with the ladies ??? So...does the intelligent person still smoke crack knowing he is going to loose most of his money doing it and destroying his life? Or Is the person only smart who walks away knowing the results of starting ? does that make him intelligent or smart ? what is the difference really ? | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 4:29:17 PM | I just think throwing out some random fabricated IQ about a figure like Churchill is silly...he was not only a great statesman but possessed a gifted intellect and was a scholar of world renown. Though how he functioned effectively for so long given his prodigious intake of alcohol is totally beyond me | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/28/2008 5:18:25 PM | [many people in the world with additions]
I would estimate 99.9% are addicted to something. Hey, I like my coffee, dark roast please.
Freud could not keep that cigar out of his mouth, killed him.
Reagan had those jelly beans always handy.
Ataturk liked his raki. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/28/2008 10:42:14 PM | I score real high on a lot of IQ test, last few I took was just a couple years ago and put me within the top 20% range. Work with complex mathematics that college students struggle to grasp the basics of on a daily basis, and in some complex structures as well, majority of which aren't being used in theoretical models but computer simulations at real time speeds. Yet I smoke, not as much as the vast majority of smokers do, but I do non the less, with full knowledge of what it does to my body. I actually quit smoking for close to 6 months a couple years back, but returned to the habit when I moved back to my current city, not completely sure why either just one day started again, didn't have the urge to light up or anything like that.
However there are things I wont do, while occasionally I will smoke pot, I wont touch any other drugs. I don't drink alcohol very often at all, maybe one or two times a year, though lately I've drank each weekend and it reminded me why I decided to stay away from alcohol so much. A lot of food I will not eat because of their effects on the body, most picky interpret that as a haven't tasted it and wont, but it's more I know what the food will do to me if I eat it on a regular basis. I do drink caffeinated beverages, namely cola (not in the general sense but the specific sense), even that isn't very often.
It would really surprise you to see just how many cancer causing agents everyone that complains about smoking actually ingest each and every day. There's a crap ton of them, some aren't even regulated in the least bit, not even a warning in fine print. One of the sources was kind of surprising for me, a chemical used mainly in teeth whitening substances, it is also used in: mouth wash, toothpaste, bublegum (though it's mostly in the 'mouth cleaning' gums), two of the leading brands of shampoo, three of the leading brands of soap, anti-bacterial toilet paper, topical disinfectants, and plastic processing (a decent amount of it is left in the final product). The substance can make it's way in to the body in just about the same ways as water, except eyes, something in the eyes natural cleaning fluid neutralizes it. | |
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