| Radicalism
Posted: 5/29/2008 1:04:35 PM | As many of you are well aware, the topic of political ideology differences has been 'done to death' but rest assured, this is original question which requires validation.
What sort of lines would you draw in terms of accepting a potential dates outlooks and perspectives on world issues, politics, and economics? For example, would you consider dating an intense political activist who regularly attends rallies and demonstrates personal perspectives on a daily basis? Especially when the main emphasis of said activism revolves around generally radical concepts that are perceived as unpopular by main-stream culture. Too add an extra element of specificity in this thread, radicalism can be defined as notions including/extrapolated from isolationalism, communism, anarchism, anti-religion, de-privatization, new world order, or humanitarian aid. By no means should this be considered of the 'hippie' generation, talk-action=zero. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:15:54 PM | it say's you don't do drugs, however you have picture of holdng a giant bong. WTF?
sure you've tired to blur the pic, but to a former pothead, you gotta do better to fool me. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:21:22 PM | | ^^^^^ I thought that was a pic of a giant vibrator and got all excited for nothing. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:21:43 PM | I wouldn't hold political radicalism against a person any more than I would conservatism or liberalism. And I could care less if a person's views are seemingly unpopular according to mainstream thought.
That said, I'm not remotely political and I'm pretty apathetic about "society," with regards to what it is and what it might become...at least insofar as I don't read the newspaper and I barely know Karl Marx from Groucho, Harpo, or Chico. So I'm pretty sure that a "radical" would have more problems with me than I would with him. I wouldn't have a problem with the person's ideas or beliefs; I just wouldn't have anything near an equal passion for such things.
Off-topic: Are you named after the Kenneth Anger book? | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:25:49 PM | I'd like to say I wouldnt hold it against them but thats probably BS.
I've dated women with moderately conservative values but if their on the far, far right of the world spectrum (read: American conservatives) I couldnt tolerate it. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:26:22 PM | ^^^ Give the kid a break Dr... afterall, it COULD be his favourite vase he's showing his friends.
How far would I take my political/philosophical/psychological/biological/ethical/religious/this is of views in filtering out potential dates? I don't hold any radical views so the answer is not far. I vote for who I want to, and it's not necessarily the same party federally and provincially, or from one election to the next. If she can convince me with a strong enough argument that a certain party is offering up sour fish while another has canned tuna I would consider switching my vote, but she'd have to have a solid argument.
But to those whose views are radical I say don't shift for no one, because the incessant b1tching that's going to ensue due to your having sold out is going to be the bane of all your relationships to come. You might not have many relationships if your views and keeping it real are more important but that's your ball to bounce. What's your take OP? Are you a fanatic of sorts? | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:26:56 PM | NWA...
Personally, I would rule the world with an iron fist, but, others opinions actually mean everything to me, so I try and swallow my pride and see things from others perspective. For that reason, I am far more liberal than I would be, if everyone just listened to me.
Just curious but what radical ideas are you refering to? Legalize pot, prostituion, etc???
I'm game, although I disagree strongly with the use of drugs. Gay marriage? Although I bite my tongue and take a breathe before saying this, I agree.
Do you mean legalizing marriage to those 'real dolls' -- which is what is coming next don't kid yourself. Although the very subject makes me really irritated and tense, I gues I agree. Why shouldn't someone who loves a doll be able to marry her and share their dental plan. 
I'm only laughing, because otherwise I'd be beligerant or crying.  | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:28:10 PM | | aside from the fact that your comment has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, how asinine. just because im holding a bong doesn't mean I do drugs. i posted that picture because its an inside joke among friends (oh look, "hes" holding a bong!). i also wanted to screen out people who have an intensive disposition towards non-drug users because many people within my social circle smoke pot. so in the future, please stop trolling around on forums in a vain attempt to cut people down; absolutely pathetic. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:29:48 PM | Hmmmm..... interesting topic.
For me, it would completely depend on the issue they are supporting.
My personal list of dealbreakers would be:
- racism
- polygamy
- radical vegans (they would probably not choose to be with me as I am not opposed to hunting for food consumption)
- extreme religious beliefs
- misogynists
- cruelty to animals
- capital punishment
There are also things about me that could be a dealbreaker for someone else. The answers here will be as different and diverse as the individuals that respond.
I think that for almost everyone we have ideals that could potentially be a dealbreaker when it comes to political/personal/religious differences. JMHO
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:45:39 PM | whoa, hold on, didn't know i was a attacking, you. someone needs to remove the stick from there ass and then bark up a different tree.
true, just because you are holding a bong doesn't mean you're a pothead. and if you had someone else penis in your mouth it wouldn't make you gay either. it just means you know people that are and it's an inside joke right?
wait, that's probably going to get me banned for a week, but it's worth it. i hate guys that feel the must flash their chest to get dates. it's like buying a porsche for the sake of sex, and not for the car. put a shirt on, unless you're skins on the B-Ball team, or you're behind closed doors, or swimming. besides, you wears a hat and no shirt?
everyone else sorry. OP Phuck off | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 1:55:17 PM |
and if you had someone else penis in your mouth it wouldn't make you gay either.
LOL. I don't think either of you are right or wrong but that comment sent ginger ale out of my nostrils. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 2:07:00 PM | Ah, Nelson, such tact. Use a**** I love it!
I missed a component of the OP here. Would I date someone who is radical and unwavering in their views? No. I wouldn't be attracted to someone with irrational and illogical views they couldn't debate effectively without haste. Activism is a major turn-off for most people, present company included. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 2:21:43 PM |
whoa, hold on, didn't know i was a attacking, you. someone needs to remove the stick from there ass and then bark up a different tree.
Phew...I thought his response was directed at me. Here I'm thinking, is what I said really that offensive, sheesh.
true, just because you are holding a bong doesn't mean you're a pothead. and if you had someone else penis in your mouth it wouldn't make you gay either. it just means you know people that are and it's an inside joke right?
Really? I guess not, but if I held a gun to my head, wouldn't people think I was suicidal or at least seriously f*cked in the head. LOL
If he says he ain't a druggie, then he probably isn't, but online where pictures and first impressions are everything and inside jokes don't really work that well, I can see your point.
wait, that's probably going to get me banned for a week, but it's worth it. i hate guys that feel the must flash their chest to get dates. it's like buying a porsche for the sake of sex, and not for the car. put a shirt on, unless you're skins on the B-Ball team, or you're behind closed doors, or swimming. besides, you wears a hat and no shirt?
Whats wrong with buying a Porsche for the sake of sex? Shyte, if I had a nice car or a ripped chest/stomach I'd show it off, damn I show it off as is and I drive a Malibu.
I missed a component of the OP here. Would I date someone who is radical and unwavering in their views? No. I wouldn't be attracted to someone with irrational and illogical views they couldn't debate effectively without haste. Activism is a major turn-off for most people, present company included.
He didn't really specify what his radicalism was all about, which is why I asked.
I think if he was zealous about animal rights, that is maybe an extreme I could appreciate. If he was a radical environmentalist and paintballed anyone who drove a hummer, then no, I wouldn't agree. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 2:24:58 PM | | if you had taken the time to read my profile thoroughly, you'd realize that i don't post pictures of myself with no shirt on to "flash my chest". im into body modification culture, and have been for many years. obviously posting pictures of my tattoos is an attempt to draw people from the same scenario. please stop posting in this thread. im not going to report you or anything lame like that, but this isnt furthering the discussion which i intended to start. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 2:51:32 PM |
Too add an extra element of specificity in this thread, radicalism can be defined as notions including/extrapolated from isolationalism, communism, anarchism, anti-religion, de-privatization, new world order, or humanitarian aid. By no means should this be considered of the 'hippie' generation, talk-action=zero.
The op did specify his type of "radicalism". And nope, I would not date someone who had those beliefs.....I wouldn't date someone who is liberal.
I am middle of the road-conservative, and do not apologize for it.
Op, your beliefs are yours, just go with the flow...I am sure there is some woman that will think along the same lines as you.
And as for the comments by the other poster that have you so fired up...deal with it. He hasn't done any insulting...he was making an observation based on your profile. Nothing more, nothing less. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 3:07:35 PM | Hmmm... I have been tear gased by Neo-Nazis, participated in many anti-government protests & was actively involved in the peace movement in my part of the universe. In this country, I organized number of events to commemorate Rwandan genocide and/or raise awareness about genocide in Darfur....Clearly, one's activism would not be a turn off for me... as long as they are not close minded and dogmatic about their beliefs.
On the other hand, I would not hold lack of activism against a person either. Not everyone is passionate about certain things as I am, and that's ok. As long as they respect what I do, and are not any of the things that Libra mentioned, it's all good... Somehow I have an impression that my ideas would not mesh well with the ideas of KKK member. But, "middle of the road conservative", libertarian, "traditional republican" - I would not mind any of that... If anything, it would make for interesting conversations... I like people who can carry an argument, who can challenge me and hold their ground.
Ignorance, intolerance and closed mind - those are the things that I do not appreciate, regardless whether they present themselves in "liberal/radical" or "conservative" clothing.
I wouldn't date someone who is liberal.
Methinks simplelady66 just ditched me. 
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Posted: 5/29/2008 3:09:32 PM | | I personally wouldn't care about radicalism. I am pretty involved in social activism myself, so I would likely join in. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 3:14:38 PM | | thanks for the legitimate responses thus far. youve offered some insight on the subject. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 3:19:36 PM |
would you consider dating an intense political activist who regularly attends rallies and demonstrates personal perspectives on a daily basis?
No. There are more important things that one can do with their free time, such as helping children, feeding the homeless and other charity events. Us yankee's take our freedom of speech too far sometimes. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 3:54:47 PM |
Methinks simplelady66 just ditched me.
Take heart Red............you are the exception to every rule.....I would still date ya!
Besides, your kick *ss attitude about most things more than makes up for the liberal part | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 5:28:31 PM | To me, it would all come down to the person's attitude. When people voice opinions that are different from my own or talk about something I have not thought a lot about, I make an effort to listen and learn what makes them passionate about it.
If you could present your views without shoving them down my throat, listen to MY views without feeling personally attacked, and accept that we might have different views, a relationship might be possible. I'd ALWAYS encourage my SO to do what they were passionate about, whether or not I agree or share in that passion.
Of course, if I found your views downright offensive and I couldn't even see why you felt the way you do (ie: I thought you were off your rocker)... no. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 7:23:27 PM | But, "middle of the road conservative", libertarian, "traditional republican" - I would not mind any of that... If anything, it would make for interesting conversations... I like people who can carry an argument, who can challenge me and hold their ground.
Red, I love you more each day.  | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 7:28:53 PM | As to the OP:
I don't have a problem with those on the other side, politically. As a matter of fact, I recently met a lady that has done a little Bush/War protesting. She thinks she's a Dem, but the more we talk, the more we find that she really has conservative/libertarian views.
Like another poster said...tinfoil hats, in your face veganism, etc.,yeah, that'd be hard for me to get past. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 7:37:34 PM | I'm more middle of the road and I'd really get along with someone who at least shares some of the same views.
I like guns, even own a few class III's
I'm pro-abortion
don't care about gay marriage
for the death penalty
don't care for high taxes
support the military
believe less government is far better than having a nanny state | |
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Posted: 5/29/2008 7:54:32 PM | I have a list of things that would be a no-go, a lot of them fall on the conservative end: protesting outside of abortion clinics, very pro-war, etc... but I also wouldn't date a radical vegan or ANYONE who counts themselves as an animal-rights activist.
In short, I'm willing to date someone who's a little radical, but only if it's about things I agree with. | |
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