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Posted: 5/30/2008 12:08:03 AM | Does anybody else do this? I've been having very strenous dreams, rescuing people, saving the world and making things right, and I am waking up more buggered than when I went to sleep! How do you sleep? Our sleep patterns are an intrinsic part of our lives...what are yours like?
I used to be a person who blurted everything out when I was troubled, but have recently learnt to deal with 'stuff' internally, and since then seem to deal with dramas in my sleep instead...has anybody got any strategies to make my sleep easier...warm milk? Warm brandy? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 12:15:28 AM | .... try some calcium... which means you need magnesium...... so cheese/milk... and ... lemons.. dark green vegies.....apples.. nuts/almonds.. corn..
you need magnesium to absorb calcium...
trypotphan helps sleep... so turkey...
and vitmain b 6 (if you take 1 b vit you need the whole group..)..... so a good chelated vitamin b ..... will help. get more of a restful sleep..
smiles/peace | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 12:16:03 AM | Get a bottle of Eureka Lavender oil from woolies and after a hot shower and a hot chocolate wipe a small amout under your nose drift off to sleep thinking of a something or someone that makes you smile.  | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 12:19:28 AM | | Thanks Girls...will try eating more cheese - that'll be a chore! And the lavender oil....will get into that too. Soulmate, I knew you'd have something to help! | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 12:26:27 AM | try incorperating it into meals though.. daily.. not just before bed.. but warm milk does have trypotphan in it...
sounds like your abit run down.. possibly running after all those kids..lol
and you need to focus on your health for abit... the b will help with the stress/thoughts and alcohol depletes b......
B is water soluble so we need it everyday..
and once you take it... you watch your eyelashes... they will darker in colour... b also helps.. with hair colour...
but.. u need the whole group.. b/c its certain parts of B family that restore colour for eg..
smiles/peace | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 12:32:23 AM | Thanks Hun. Hopefully, the nights will be a lot calmer from here on in....my sleep patterns have never been very sensible. I put it down to being an artist...I'm sure I'm related to Van Gogh along the way somewhere!
An ex of mine used to (prolly still does) barely sleep at all - he'd be up late and early, and slept fitfully...but 'dozed' constantly. He would be sitting at the table, talking, and then seem to be 'gone'....he always said he was 'dozing'....anyone ever come across this before? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 12:56:20 AM | | Contrary to popular belief alcohol will actually totally screw up your sleeping pattern and you will have slept, but you will still be tired. So don't drink anything if you want a good nights sleep. Don't eat anything 2 hours before you go to bed, this will also help. Obviously excercise will help but not in the afternoon as this will also intefere with your sleep patterns. If none of the above are a factor you may be iron deficient. Hope this helps. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 1:07:30 AM | I could be iron deficient....that would make sense.
DS - I was actually scared to read what you had posted. I was looking forward to all sorts of comment re batteries and stuff
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Posted: 5/30/2008 1:09:51 AM | Well having a battery powered bedside friend will help, as after an orgasm the body releases endorphines which will relax you and help you sleep also. Sorry to dissapoint you on the first post!! | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 1:29:18 AM | This is what I have been going through nearly all my life...going to bed tired and waking up exhausted. Even if I don't have active dreams like you OP I still feel so tired but I kind of have accepted it and enjoy dreaming.
You might need to pay attention to your dreams there could be few answers in your dreams for you, if you have the psychic powers in your dream then you won't care about being exhausted and will just love to dream. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 1:31:24 AM | | i believe that what your dreams are telling you is that there is something in your life you need to let go of and that you are trying to control elements of your life too much and it is manifesting into your dreams. Once you do that you will sleep much better! | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 1:47:56 AM | Dreaming itself will not make you wake up exhausted. Everybody dreams, those who say they don't simply don't remember them. We dream in the REM phase of sleep and this is also when we do our actual resting and growing. Alcohol and drugs will generally remove the REM phase from the sleep cycle, so even though you are asleep you are not actually resting. Then your body will need to catch up the next night on the REM it missed out on the night before. Have you ever noticed you sleep really really well the night after a big night out? I can't remember the length of the REM cycles but if you miss them all one night you will have twice as many the next night to make up for it.
Dreams are a whole other kettle of fish. I have done a lot of study into them due to the strange ones I used to have as a child and even now. Lucid dreams are the ultimate in dreaming experience and it's something I can now do nightly. This is when you actually have a realisation in your dream that you are asleep and dreaming, once you are aware of this you can make anything you think of happen. I still remember my first one and it was awesome. My most common dream and the other thing that I dream of nightly is being telekinetic. Probably because I wish I was. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 1:51:21 AM | ^^^^ yep and b6 helps get to the rem stages..
edit well.. seems you are intersted B6 100mg.. with niacinamade 100mg.. work together to produce the brain chemical seretonin. essential for restful REM sleep..
but once again.. taking any vitamin.. needs the whole group or can cause depletion elsewhere...
smiles/peace | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 1:55:20 AM | ^^I didn't know that, I will file that one away for further use,
Thanks | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 2:00:00 AM | | Really dark stanley......i didn't know that it was an enlightening message. I didn't know that you can actually take dreaming to that level! | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 2:10:13 AM |
I didn't know that you can actually take dreaming to that level
Hell yeah it's awsome. I think the earliest recorded history of it was the ancient egyptians. They had special bedchamers called dream inccubators specifically designed to encourage Lucid dreaming. You should google it, it is a very interesting subject!! | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 2:27:12 AM |
Thanks Girls...will try eating more cheese
Eating cheese before bedtime will GIVE you bad dreams!! It's true. My mum used to tell us that & never let us have cheese at night time. Of course I eat it often at night time now that she can't tell me what to do but yes, it DOES give me bad dreams. I wake up sweating & tumbled & disoriented & terrified, usually after some maniacal murderer or monsterous creature has been trying to hunt me down & kill me.
Try a cup of hot milk Horlicks (in winter) or cold milk Milo in summer. Or cereal & milk before bed. That make s you nice & sleepy & calm & you will have restful boring dreams that will not make you feel exhausted the next morning! | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 2:49:39 AM | Maybe you sleepwalk and get up to all sorts of mischief without knowing... scary stuff.
An old workmate used to when he'd had a few and his wife was paranoid whenever they stayed out of town in a Hotel, cos he'd get all disoriented and there'd be trouble. Yes, he slept naked.
Our section was scattered across 200km and one of our office Xmas break-ups was in Townsville and most of us stayed at the 'Sugar Shaker' (might be owned by Travelodge these days). Anyway it's a round hotel and, well, he got up and got away. Later she was awakened by loud knocking with hubby wide awake and a wee bit embarrassed. So too were the folk who found him wandering two floors down and called security... Lucky he never made it past reception and wandered down the street!
I still take my hat off him for admitting it in the morning.
Hey OP, might I suggest a saucer of warm milk before curling up for the night...? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 2:54:33 AM | Maybe you should try sleeping in bed instead of what ever it is you get up to!!
God, jealousy is such a curse....I wish I woke up feeling knackered for a good reason instead of just because the dog, the cat and the kids have kept me awake in the night. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 3:14:32 AM | Eating cheese before bedtime will GIVE you bad dreams!! It's true. My mum used to tell us that & never let us have cheese at night time.
the suggestion of increasing calcium .. for eg cheese into her diet.. was not before bedtime. but in context.. everyday diet..
smiles/peace | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 3:17:08 AM | | I'm a dreadful sleeper, so although I can't offer any constructive advice, I'm taking everything in. Will certainly try the lavender sounds nice. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 3:38:26 AM | With your name I am assuming you may know what whitelighting is. Try that before you go to bed and ask for a recuperative sleep  | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 5:45:42 AM | Hi everyone.
This is my very first post (on POF).
Excuse me if I tread on anyone's toes....
Already said, but totally correct.
Cheese near bed is a no-no unless you want vivid dreams and broken sleep.
"after an orgasm the body releases endorphines [sic] which will relax you and help you sleep"
"trypotphan [sic] helps sleep... so turkey..."
Dreams are a reflection of a significant circumstance or concern if your life
If I may, based on my personal experimentation and observation of others, I suggest these will all help you get to and stay asleep:
[] Don't eat anywhere near bed time ...
...unless it is a bowl of cereal with sugar and warm milk.
>> This gives you L-Tryptophan and the sugar kicks up your blood sugar level followed by a fall which will make you feel weary. I'm not sure how quickly the calcium will kick in...
Note: I'm pretty sure the sale of pure L-Tryptophan was restricted or banned years ago. (True/False ??)
[] Keep cool in bed.
>> Our body temps fall overnight and then rise before we awaken. Staying cool will improve your quality of sleep.
[] Drain some battery power and buzz a little.
>> The manual version applies for us fellas.
As the old saying goes... Egg and a W @nk -You can't beat a W @nk. 
[] Marijuana.
>> If you use it, then roll a little one and go out on the patio and relax while you have a puff. Although many of you know that it contains THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) did you know that whilst THC Delta 9 gets you high, there are a multitude of other active constituents in grass. If you notice that one's eyes go red, this attests to the reduction to vascular constriction that it brings.
Note: It is illegal in most states. There is however synthetic THC, which may/may not be.
[] Avoid your computer for at least 30 mins before bed.
>> An hour is better. Give your mind a chance to key down.
[] Avoid stimulants for at least 4 hours before bed.
>> Longer is better. Like above, it gives your mind a chance to relax.
[] You can download audio recordings of the various brainwaves.
>> Alpha, Theta, bla,bla, bla. These can help you to both relax and sleep and also the opposite, depending on which ones you listen to.
I really hope this helps you. Sleep loss of degradation really is a a bummer to carry.
If you truly can't sleep, then get up and got to work. I have done many a 4am start in my office which gives me a quiet environment to get lots done.
Please let us know how you get along.
Oh... Sorry for hijacking your thread with such a long thread... 
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Posted: 5/30/2008 6:01:15 AM | Gee wizz! Thanks for that above poster. But I do think most of it is just common sense, isn't it?
I can totally relate to this statement.
If you truly can't sleep, then get up and got to work. I have done many a 4am start in my office which gives me a quiet environment to get lots done. No one calls you at that time, and if they do, get them to come because they are obviously suffering from insomnia too. You would be helping them out I think. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2008 7:05:53 AM | | i cant get to sleep in the first place any suggestions or ides would be gratefully appreciated | |
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