| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 1:15:17 PM | Assuming Clinton finds her way into the General, as either the Democratic candidate or as an Independent.. And she very well may, not one to be counted out, in spite of the intense MSNBC campaign against her, with an assist from both CNN and FOX. (all formidable adversaries to have working against you).
But Ron Paul very well might make her an exceptionally viable Vice Presidential Candidate! We could certainly do much worse!
We have to admire her resilience, toughness and tenacity. And those are characteristics that will serve her exceptionally well, at the White House. Characteristics we don't see in the opposition. Ron Paul however, shares similar resilience and tenacity, albeit on a slightly different level. .
Hillary Clinton/Ron Paul would certainly solve a LOT of America's prevailing problems, including obviously, unity, reaching across the aisle, while contributing to the diminished, destructive influence of extreme partisanism!!!
-Suth'nBoy 
Clinton/Paul 2008!! <= How does that sound? 
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 1:26:27 PM | I dunno....they're polar opposites....I can see Clinton doing it for the votes, but I'd doubt Paul would abandon his convictions so easily for some votes.
Lets be honest-Clinton's been pandering for any votes she can get- Paul's been pandering only for the votes who agree with him, at the cost of alienating the rest of the voters. | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 1:28:39 PM | My opinion:
He likely would not accept that position, as her views are not in line with his.
He has previously stated that he will not endorse McCain unless McCain's
views radically change. I cannot see him endorsing Clinton or Obama either,
and certainly not accepting a running mate slot with any of them.
Dayna
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 1:36:56 PM | I see it as taking wide diversity into account, and merging for the best of both worlds. I am, for example, a big fan of both, because they both have very constructive and beneficial ideas for the country. Unlike what else is out there.
Ron Pauls' alternative is to fade into oblivion. I suspect he would consider the option to be able to promote his convictions much further at a high level. They actually do align in quite a few areas, if you think about it, even though they are from very different places. But I also see in them the ability to get along and work together.
-Suth'nBoy
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 1:51:24 PM | Dr. Ron Paul will never "fade into oblivion". As far as I am concerned,
he has already "Won" -- because he is EDUCATING millions of
people about our government, our Constitution, our rights and
our freedoms. We are one-by-one, waking up the sleeping
masses, and making a difference!
In fact, there are many "Ron Paul Republicans" who have gotten
off their duffs and are taking action by running for public
office, in local, state and national races. Check out:
http://paulcongress.com
There are about 50 candidates running for Federal office under
the "Ron Paul Platform", as well as about 20 running for State
offices. Many are running as Republicans, but there are Libertarians
and Constitution Party candidates who also run on the "Ron Paul Platform".
Several are endorsed personally by Dr. Paul, and several have
won their Primaries already!
As for me, personally - I always did my duty by voting, but was never
involved in a campaign before, prior to learning about Dr. Ron Paul
early in 2007. I must say, Dr. Paul cured my political apathy. He has
GREATLY inspired me to take action and help get this country back
to where it should be. The REVOLUTION CONTINUES! 
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
or, my site:
http://www.myspace.com/ronpaulgal
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 1:57:51 PM | I highly doubt Ron Paul would be willing to sell himself out in such a crass manner. He is a principled politician. Clinton on the other hand.......... - anything for power.
The Clintonistas are becoming more and more distanced from reality with each passing day. | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 2:07:03 PM | If Clinton were to run as an independant, it would hand the election to John McCain.
I don't understand how one could possibly support both Hillary and Paul. He's all about freedom, she's an anti gunner for one, Which Ron Paul, AIN'T. They're polar opposites in many areas. | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 2:23:28 PM | RonPaulGal you are reacting from a standpoint of pure pride in your candidate.
But I suggest a much better place for him to be is in the White House, rather than merely in some hearts and minds, from an election season gone by.
Sure, Paul has made a difference. But as Vice President, he would make a lot more difference than he ever could as an activist on the sidelines. And I reiterate, there are many important issues where they are already not that far apart.
I include:
o Healthcare
o The War in Iraq
o Taxes
o Among others.
Why not have him in a position to actually participate in policy?
Ron Paul is anything but a traditional republican-conservative.
-Suth'nBoy
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 2:33:11 PM | How are they alike on taxes and healthcare? He wants to get rid of the income tax and stop worrying about people that don't have healthcare.
She wants to jack taxes up to pay for everyone's healthcare? | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 2:40:31 PM | Suth'nBoy wrote:
Why not have him in a position to actually participate in policy?
Actually, he *IS* in a position to actually participate in policy. He won the
Primary for his 14th District Texas Congressional Seat by a 70/30 blowout margin.
There is no Democratic opponent for November, so it appears he will return to
Congress for yet another term, unless by some miracle he does make it on the
Presidential ticket or VP.
Suth'nBoy wrote:
Ron Paul is anything but a traditional republican-conservative.
I beg to differ. As Dr. Paul has said many times, it's the Republican Party who has
"lost its way". Dr. Paul is more in line with the traditional republican-conservative
values than any of the Neo-Cons in today's politics. Regarding McCain, a direct
quote --
He can not support McCain because “I don’t consider his positions to be part of
the traditional Republican conservative platform.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23485858/
When I think of "traditional Republican conservative" - I think of Robert Taft
or Barry Goldwater or Dr. Ron Paul.
Dayna
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 2:45:13 PM | Sure, Paul has made a difference. But as Vice President, he would make a lot more difference than he ever could as an activist on the sidelines. And I reiterate, there are many important issues where they are already not that far apart.
I include:
o Healthcare
o The War in Iraq
o Taxes
o Among others.
I fail to see where they agree. Hillery wants government to pay for healthcare, Ron Paul wants government out of healthcare. Hillery's rhetoric and voting record on the invasion of Iraq are inconsistent, and she's generally a hawk who wants to go after Iran. Ron Paul wants to get the troops out and has no interest in military action against Iran. Hillery consistently votes for higher taxes and bigger government. Ron Paul consistently opposes higher taxes and bigger government. Hillery is a corporate whore. Ron Paul wants to end the corporate stranglehold on American government. Hillery thinks that big government is the solution to all of life's problems. Ron Paul thinks big government is the problem. | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 2:55:36 PM | Wow! Hahahaha!! I think a few of us are mistaking Clinton for McCain!!! 
They don't even look alike!! Clinton has never even "suggested" attacking Iran! Except in retaliation.. A hawk?? Hardly..
Funny how these long primaries can produce such amazing levels of emotion, and such fanatical perspectives.. 
-Suth'nBoy
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 3:09:53 PM | Suth'nBoy wrote:
Clinton has never even "suggested" attacking Iran!
WHAT???????? Suth'nBoy, you have GOT to be kidding me. Have
you been asleep this entire election cycle?
Please go to http://www.youtube.com and type in
Hillary Obliterate Iran
Or, just go to this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abJ2jbXasNg
Go to about 2:30 and listen/watch very carefully. Her words:
“I want the Iranians to know, if I am the president, we will attack Iran. And
I want them to understand that, because it does mean that they have to look
very carefully at their society, because whatever stage of development they
might be with their nuclear weapons program in the next 10 years, during which
they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to
totally obliterate them.”
Suth'nBoy - that is an EXACT QUOTE from Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Watch the video and LEARN about your candidate.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 3:12:06 PM | Hey suthn boy from following along in here we know you favor clinton but Ron Paul would never consider joining leagues with a CFR supporter for any reason. She would have to change almost everythng about herself to meet Ron Pauls criteria. As For Mccain as well ? It would never happen ! The only candidate that Ron Paul has even briefly mentioned to do even a tiny bit of good for the country was Obama and that was very very breif. His question was what Change ? has he actually committed to anything yet ?
WHAT???????? Suth'nBoy
I know dayna I was thinking the same thing ? | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 3:27:34 PM | Ron Paul is smarter than that!
If Shrilary chooses to be an independent (that is laughable) to gain her all desired power she feels she should be given by right, anyone who goes with her on this would not be worth the ink used to add her on the ballot. It would be pathetic and sad but I put nothing past her. | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 4:03:56 PM | Suth'nBoy,
I DO apologize. I was only going to take out the "A hawk?? Hardly"
thing, and deleted the retaliation thing too. Your quote, in my post,
should have read:
Clinton has never even "suggested" attacking Iran! Except in retaliation..
Regarding my "purpose" - I'm not sure what "falsified impact" is, but I
don't think that was the intent.
What I don't understand is how you can even say that she never even
suggested attacking Iran -- and then putting the "except..." part in.
Either she did, or she didn't - right?
In essense, I feel you are the one who is minimizing her words, and
misconstruing what she said. I was actually shocked and astounded
at her comments regarding Iran. Even though I knew that she had
voted FOR the war in Iraq, and has voted to continue funding the
war -- I couldn't believe my ears when she talked about obliterating
Iran. Israel has nukes. Israel has a well-trained army, and equipment.
Israel can easily defend itself.
WE HAVE NO BUSINESS getting involved in Israel's spats with other
countries. That is what is WRONG with our country. We need to mind
our own business, and stop being the world's policeman.
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 4:09:57 PM |
Vice Presidents don't pick their presidential running mates according to their personal criteria
You never run across a politician with integrity before . this is certainly not about status for Dr Paul this is purely about values. He would never compromise them to gain position. The reason we "know " what ron paul would do or not do is becasue in his 30 years in politics he has never strayed from those values. You will never find a politician who can calim the same thing. Look it up ? check his congressional record! Clinton flips and flops all over the place. Dr Paul never has. at least not that I could find and believe me I looked. Now the clintons on the other hand ? google the clinton chronicles and watch who it really is you are supporting. | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 4:12:07 PM | Suth'nBoy wrote:
And neither you nor RPGurl have any idea what Paul would
either accept or reject.
I disagree Suth'nBoy. Dr. Paul has specifically stated his stance on
who he would support. He has stated, during debates, that he would
not support the other candidates he was running against, because
they had strayed so very far away from what the traditional Republican
platform is. He specifically stated that unless they came back to the
traditional Republican Conservative values, he would not be able to
support them or endorse them in any way. I had given you a direct
quotation from Dr. Paul in one of the above posts, where he stated
this position. Another direct quote is:
“I can not support anybody with the foreign policy he advocates — you
know, perpetual war… I think it’s un-American, unconstitutional, immoral,
and not Republican," Paul said.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/11/ron-paul-wont-back-mccain
So please don't tell us we don't have any idea what Dr. Ron Paul would
accept or reject. We have followed our candidate very closely, and know
his stances, and know his positions - particularly in reference to the other
political candidates.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com | |
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 4:50:36 PM | "Falsified" means insincere or disingenuous. "Impact" means a strong impression.
Once again, you have no idea what Ron Paul would choose to do in any particular set of circumstances. You are his fan, not his wife, his campaign manager, or his brain.
As I said before, he would be in a much better place to introduce his version of progressive change from the White House, rather than from a position of relative obscurity. He'd also be in a much better place to be elected president in the future. And whether you or the other poster believe it or not, he cares a great deal about that.
-Suth'nBoy
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| If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted: 5/30/2008 5:33:38 PM | Do I unequivocally know what he would say or do in any given situation?
No one can know "for sure" what another person thinks. Which is exactly
why, in my original response, I said he would "likely" would not accept that
position.
However, do I feel comfortable in saying that -- given the fact that I have
provided two exact quotes from Dr. Paul that he would not support McCain
-- that he would not support McCain? Okay, okay, I won't say it. However,
you may draw your own conclusions, and unless you think the quotes are
lies, then it appears to me that he is saying he would not support McCain
providing his current stances.
As far as Clinton/Paul - I tend to agree with this:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/012082.html
Yes, even though this was written in January and it says, "Hillary will be the
Democratic nominee once the Obama fantasy subsides. Bet the ranch on that
one" -- I agree that she WILL, some way, some how, wind up with the nomination.
I have said from day one that Hillary Clinton is the anointed one by the elites.
One way or another, she will be the nominee. If it doesn't happen, I will be
VERY surprised.
Check out another good read....
http://www.nolanchart.com/article3836.html
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com | |
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