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 Parkour613

Joined: 2/21/2008
Msg: 1
Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/30/2008 5:13:47 PM
I usually do a search on a topic before I start one but I'll be honest I didn't so I apologize in advance if this has been asked.

I've been getting mixed opinions on this issue. Some say that mixing your whey protein powder in milk is bad. Some say it isn't and some say it just doesn't matter.
I try to look for info online and again there's support for both sides.

So my question is, what do you think is better? Should you mix Whey Protein powder in milk or just water?
 footballrulz343

Joined: 2/20/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/30/2008 5:22:52 PM
Just adds more protein(mostly 80% casein, 20% whey), some carbs, and fat(which is dependant on if your getting whole, 2%,1%,1/2%, or skim).

Personal opinion, unless your lactose and tolerant and/or you are avoiding milk for cutting, I would go ahead and mix it in. I find its more of a meal replacement and will satisfy your hunger for a few hours vs just having it with water.
 CanadianBeef

Joined: 1/5/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/30/2008 6:45:46 PM
Protein and water tastes...icky.

I have almost always used milk and added water if it's 2% only. Works for me.
 SumoYouKnow

Joined: 3/25/2006
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/30/2008 6:58:22 PM
Just having it with water tastes like what I imagine it would be to pick up the toilet bowl after a night of Taco Bell (I have chocolate flavored Whey), the only prob with the milk for me anyway is then I am in the bathroom afterward as if I had a night filled with Taco Bell.

I now eat the Myoplex protein bars which don't taste like rotting ass.
 dutchpirate

Joined: 3/4/2007
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/30/2008 7:00:18 PM
I honestly don't know if it's BETTER or not but that's really the only method I use whey since I don't like relying on supplements. I use chocolate milk whey powder with milk and it's pretty good. Considering it's just milk with an extra 10-20 grams of protein on top of the 8-10 grams already in the milk, its a great way to get a good dose.
 time4_2

Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 6
Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/30/2008 7:47:51 PM
Why you guys choose to eat that stuff instead of eating real food? The whole thing sounds ... Eewwwwww... bliahhhh!
 Iconoclast v.2.0

Joined: 5/18/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/30/2008 10:48:04 PM
I prefer mine with water.


Why you guys choose to eat that stuff instead of eating real food?


That is not how it is used, nor is it meant to be. It is a supplement. Its function is additional protein calories.
 Mr_Squelchy

Joined: 12/2/2007
Msg: 8
Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/31/2008 1:49:45 AM
Depends on when and why you're having it, the rest of your diet, and your goals.
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/31/2008 6:12:18 AM
"additional protein"

Other than marketing and the product being available, is there any evidence that protein supplementation is necessary, useful for a healthy person with healthy nutrition?
 michaeljrox

Joined: 5/12/2008
Msg: 10
Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/31/2008 6:43:20 AM
"Other than marketing and the product being available, is there any evidence that protein supplementation is necessary, useful for a healthy person with healthy nutrition? "

The necessarty would depend upon the healthy persons goals. I dont see anything wrong with using them to get some extra protein/calories.
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/31/2008 7:05:20 AM
It's not a question of wrong vs right.

Does protein supplementation have any scientific evidence that it makes any difference?

Most non-body-builders doing resistance work are not damaging/micro-tearing their muscles enough, or at all, (not using max weight to max reps) that their normal dietary protein would be insufficient for recovery, that protein supplementation would be required or useful.
 Ryan_guitarist

Joined: 2/29/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/31/2008 11:39:20 PM
It's fine dont worry.
 Mr_Squelchy

Joined: 12/2/2007
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 5/31/2008 11:57:40 PM

It's not a question of wrong vs right.

Does protein supplementation have any scientific evidence that it makes any difference?

Most non-body-builders doing resistance work are not damaging/micro-tearing their muscles enough, or at all, (not using max weight to max reps) that their normal dietary protein would be insufficient for recovery, that protein supplementation would be required or useful.


That depends really. Although I have a very hea;thy appetite, many other people don't, so being able to get calories in liquid form is very useful.

Also, for vegetarians such as myself, it's very hard to get quality protein from food sources. You're limited to cottage cheese, eggs, milk, fat free cheese, and that's just about it really (apart from beans and pulses, but the protein in them isn't the highest quality). Thus a protein supplement can be extremely useful if you can't afford 30 eggs a day or 4 packets of fat free cheese, or if you can't stomach cottage cheese (all of the above apply to me).
 Ryan_guitarist

Joined: 2/29/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/1/2008 12:07:50 AM
Price is never an issue. Protein can be bought cheap, very cheap (in whole foods form). It is just a lot more convenient. Also you can consume less volume and still get your protein needs (good for people with small stomachs).
 Mr_Squelchy

Joined: 12/2/2007
Msg: 15
Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/1/2008 1:02:33 AM
What vegetarian proteins would you consider to be cheap then?
 43v3RSW33T

Joined: 5/11/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/1/2008 7:19:07 PM
It's better to mix your protein with water than milk "especially after a workout" as it gets absorbed faster, plus you're not adding any unwanted sugar/fat.
 Mr_Squelchy

Joined: 12/2/2007
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/1/2008 10:46:34 PM
And why would you want your protein to be absorbed faster any time other than after a workout?
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/2/2008 4:18:09 AM
This health forum is nothing if not good for daily laughs.

The protein obesession is always ridiculous, and nobody has presented the slightest scientific evidence that "normal" people need protein supplementation.

Nor has anybody presented evidence that casual dieting causes muscle wastage (just another bogus reason for not losing excess weight). G M A F B !

Maybe Americans have bred into themselves the protein obsession and bred out of themselves the ability consume protein efficiently. A metabolic mass hysteria, which just so happens is hugely profitable to the industrial meat/dairy people.
 Mr_Squelchy

Joined: 12/2/2007
Msg: 19
Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/2/2008 4:51:34 AM

The protein obesession is always ridiculous, and nobody has presented the slightest scientific evidence that "normal" people need protein supplementation.


There's nothing to prove. It's a matter of simple mathematics. All protein supplements ARE is powdered food. If your macros are right then it doesn't matter if you've got those calories by chewing them or by drinking them.
 43v3RSW33T

Joined: 5/11/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/2/2008 3:48:36 PM
I personally mix my protein with skim milk, peanut butter and crushed ice in the morning. Other than after a workout, a person can go nuts with milk. The only time a person would want to stick with water is only after a workout or if they're on low carb/cal diet. One does not need to absorb protein faster other than after a workout.
 GodsSoldier

Joined: 6/2/2008
Msg: 21
Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/5/2008 9:31:55 AM
It's simple for me. Whey with water post workout and when I'm cutting. Whey with milk when I'm bulking.
 Canadianivek

Joined: 4/8/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/5/2008 12:44:31 PM
eh hows it going?..(can got lots into this topic) hehe know my stuff haha, anyways the main q.....(for most it tastes better(thicker) with milk , but health wise in the lonnnnnng run(after taking it sooo much), its prob better to take with water(worked in pharmacy also, and believe it or not(taking it with water, has alot less of a negative affect on ones liver(see few people /after years of lots of protein and milk(with liver problems/....(just taking it a bit etc, it might not matter, but why not go with the water/faster absorption also like somebody said/ thanks
 Canadianivek

Joined: 4/8/2008
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/5/2008 12:48:16 PM
sorry liver and kidneys/ect and with water, toooo tooo much of the "protein powder" can do this also/ but something about it with milk makes it harder on these organs
(key pt/ if training and working out "with weights" dont abuse protein powder/eat normal foods for protein etc/ if the container says "drink 2-4x/day lol....drink it once/its marketing for $$$$ /want you to buy more/personally I see and think too many people spend too much on supplements/ me included, be smart and safe etc
 podthebod

Joined: 11/29/2007
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Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/8/2008 8:50:52 PM
Personally I only take Whey Protein with milk. IT is a great way to add the extra protein you need if you are on a pseudo or actual bodybuilding diet. Being on a bodybuilding physique transformation diet, it is hard trying to get the 1-1.5grams of protein per lb of bodyweight that so many follow with out adding the milk.

It definitely doesnt denature or damage the Whey Protein in any way.
 Ignite the Ibex

Joined: 6/4/2008
Msg: 25
Whey Protein and Milk?
Posted: 6/9/2008 2:44:46 AM
What are your goals? Are you trying to build lean mass with a solid weight routine? Or are you cutting down and dieting (while still lifting heavy)? If you need the calories add milk, if not then leave it out, simple. Adding/leaving milk out will not affect they whey protein in any way.
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