| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 5:42:26 PM | This struck me as one of the classic double standards. I know it may go both ways, but right now I'd like to ask about the female models and what men generally think of them as people.
If a man buys (or even just looks at) porn, what's the opinion he has of the women in them? Does he think they're trashy, or that they're doing what they can to pay their way through life?
I came up with the question when I watched a show where a man actually met the woman he'd lusted for in his magazine. He did not want anything to do with her. Why? Did he think she was cheap and unworthy of his respect?
.. or was it that, since there she was in person, he was confronted by his own interest in the material where she posed, turning him on? She couldn't turn him on as an actual human being?
Note: I'm not saying this to bash men, honest I'm not. I just don't get why guys will shell out money and think it's no big deal to support the careers of women for whom they have no moral regard ~ and, in fact, they would shun if they ever MET the models.
Can one of you guys give me a non-defensive, humourous and succinct reason?
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 5:50:47 PM | I dunno, I guess they're nice to look at, but I usually buy those mags for the articles.
In your story it sounds like the man lusted after the idea of that particular model, not the person. I'm sure that the model was just like any other lady, and that probably ruined his fantasy. Really that's what men or women (or men) in magazines end up being in the end, a fantasy. Also maybe he was intimidated. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 5:51:52 PM | Plain and simple, they're not people when they're in character. They're things. It shortcircuits our thinking when we are forced to deal with them as actually possessing thoughts and feelings.
I never thought about it until now, but I don't think I would actually date Nadine Jansen or Ewa Sonnet.
Wow, I think you've just enlightened me.  | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 5:55:05 PM | I'm thinking that they do it for the $$. The money is good, the hours are great, and if they enjoy sex, then all the better
.As for meeting one in person?
To quote Jules : " Sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker"....Meaning that I can't comment on any lust factor if I ever met an actress, 'cause I never have.
Woo knows..maybe I'd like them, maybe I wouldn't...but as a rule, I never put a jacket on anyone | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 5:55:58 PM |
If a man buys (or even just looks at) porn, what's the opinion he has of the women in them? Does he think they're trashy, or that they're doing what they can to pay their way through life?
Well I know they are people just like me and you. I think they are paying there way through life like me and you. Oh trust me if I looked like any of the guys on Soap Operas or some of the musicians woman deem sexy. That's what I'd be doing also
I just don't get why guys will shell out money and think it's no big deal to support the careers of women for whom they have no moral regard ~ and, in fact, they would shun if they ever MET the models.
The same reason everyone pays for music, (regular)movies, cable Tv, etc it's entertainment. The sexual aspect of it the same reason a woman would pay for a dildo or sex toy. It's 1 in a 1000 odds (probably more) that I would meet The Eagles in person, but I own every album ever made.
On a personal note I haven't bought porn since I turned 18. But I can logically see why people would.
Question for the ladies what about the male models and porn stars. What about the men on the cover of magazines aren't they as bad. The odds for meeting them is the same as us.
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 6:14:43 PM | My 2 cents from a female perspect (I just had to, lol)......they are not real women. They are surgically enhanced and altered, the pics are airbrushed and cause men to have unrealistic expectations of their wives and girlfriends. Men compare models in skin mags to their own wives and girfriends thus putting pressure on them to look like the skin mag bimbos. This chickie will always be herself. Period. I figure if a guy doesn't like it he needs to hit the road  | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 6:20:40 PM | To be honest, when I look at skin mags, I notice the lighting and the composition of the photo. I don't really think about the model. I think about what the photographer is thinking and doing. Most of the time the photography is HORRIBLE!!!! I also wonder why don't they use photoshop to remove the butt zits. Gross!
Most skin mag models are GRODY! I wish I could be a photographer for them because I know I can do a better job. Geesh! | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 6:34:36 PM |
My 2 cents from a female perspect (I just had to, lol)......they are not real women. They are surgically enhanced and altered, the pics are airbrushed and cause men to have unrealistic expectations of their wives and girlfriends. Men compare models in skin mags to their own wives and girfriends thus putting pressure on them to look like the skin mag bimbos. This chickie will always be herself. Period. I figure if a guy doesn't like it he needs to hit the road
No. Some of them are real, didn't have surgery, and don't require photoshop to look good. They do probably spend an excessive amount of time making sure they look a certain way (when all you're judge on is your looks you kinda have to). They have family, dreams and goals, maybe even personalities and when they're 'not on' look just like any random lady walking down the street. I'll bet many a lady has admired a professional athlete that requires a certain body type just to be able to compete. But pro athletes and models don't live in the real world... | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 6:56:59 PM |
This struck me as one of the classic double standards. I know it may go both ways, but right now I'd like to ask about the female models and what men generally think of them as people.
If a man buys (or even just looks at) porn, what's the opinion he has of the women in them? Does he think they're trashy, or that they're doing what they can to pay their way through life?
I came up with the question when I watched a show where a man actually met the woman he'd lusted for in his magazine. He did not want anything to do with her. Why? Did he think she was cheap and unworthy of his respect?
.. or was it that, since there she was in person, he was confronted by his own interest in the material where she posed, turning him on? She couldn't turn him on as an actual human being?
Note: I'm not saying this to bash men, honest I'm not. I just don't get why guys will shell out money and think it's no big deal to support the careers of women for whom they have no moral regard ~ and, in fact, they would shun if they ever MET the models.
Can one of you guys give me a non-defensive, humourous and succinct reason?
1. A few words for models... Unrealistic, Fake, Made-up. Take your pick. Take away the countless hours of hairdressers/make-up etc.. and they aren't any prettier than a random woman I'd cross in the street. I've past by many "regular" women that I would consider much more appealing. Maybe this is what that guy who met the model realized.
2. As for porn. Some are genuinely in a bad situation and don't necessarily have the self-esteem, education or maturity to be something more, while others are trashy and simply enjoy being objectified. I would imagine there are certain variables that come into play when talking about this subject in particular. Upbringing, life experiences, etc... I have a friend who was an escort (Which does fall in the same category) Although beautiful, she lived an incredibly hard life; abused and demoralized her whole life. I suppose it was a way for compensating for the extreme lack of self confidence conditioned in her while she was growing up. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 8:53:40 PM |
If a man buys (or even just looks at) porn, what's the opinion he has of the women in them? Does he think they're trashy, or that they're doing what they can to pay their way through life?
I probably don't look at the same kind of porn other guys do. In fact, I can pretty much guarantee it, knowing myself as I do. The gals in the porn I do look at, I don't think are "fake"; I know they're real people, and pretty much just doing what they do to get by. It's one of the reasons I don't really like porn in the first place, because I'm smart enough to see past the fantasy and gauge it for what it really is.
That said, a lot of the gals in the non-Playboy arena are pretty much... well, it's sad. Most of 'em look like crackwhores, all skin and bones and fake boobs. You know they're not doing it because they're nymphos, they're doing it because they have drug problems.
Random aside; the porn industry will cast *anyone*, even if just for the novelty factor - and that includes freaks of nature with body image issues.
I came up with the question when I watched a show where a man actually met the woman he'd lusted for in his magazine. He did not want anything to do with her. Why? Did he think she was cheap and unworthy of his respect?
I can't speak for this man, only myself, but something similar happened to me a few years ago. I was instantly smitten by a woman, an amateur model, whose photo I saw - probably one of the few cases of love at first sight I can definitely remember. I pulled a few strings and managed to work with her shortly thereafter (I was dabbling in photography at the time), and we kept in touch, corresponding a great deal by phone and E-mail. At first, she seemed really awesome, and I fell for her pretty hard, I hate to say.
Anyway, to put it mildly, she was basically unstable; other guys who'd worked with her said that she "wasn't all there" and that "her head wasn't screwed on too tight", and it became quite obvious when things literally exploded.
To make a long story short, I can't even look at her pictures anymore. Well, I can, but any arousal, or even attraction I felt for her once is now completely gone. Her personality completely killed anything I may have ever felt for her.
In addition to that, in terms of other celebrities I like... well, some of my favorite musicians are women, but I hope I never actually meet them. I know that if I do, and their personalities aren't anything like the image they've crafted for their performances, then it might 'ruin' my enjoyment of their art. Like if they turned out to be, like the gal above, total beyotches. 'sides, I would never hit on a celebrity, especially a model or porn star, when I first met them. I can just imagine how often they get approached by anyone and everyone, and I'd be just another jerk to get in line. That was part of the problem with the first gal... she couldn't fathom why I was being nice to her and kept wondering (aloud) what I 'expected' to get out of it. It was really, really depressing. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 8:54:38 PM |
You really can't be as stupid as you seem. You're RIGHT! I'm not.
However, I am somewhat behind when it comes to stuff like sexuality because of my own background and lack of any positive, first-hand experiences.
As for what I might personally think of men in the guy mags, well ..since I'm so frigid (lol), I don't care to buy the mags so I kinda count myself out: still, as someone said it's one way to earn a living, and they are people even behind the cameras and airbrushed illusion.
It was the clip I saw that made me wonder if men look down on porn models even if they enjoy porn.
.. I enlightened someone? ~ bizarre!  | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 8:57:21 PM | we get hung up at times on words...take "model" for example- my first wife used to introduce me this way- "meet dave- he's a model husband!" i usta just beam with pride until i was served with divorce papers, after 13 years of marriage...i asked her- "honey, i don't understand- for 13 years you've been calling me a "model husband"- what's up?"
she replied: oh but you ARE a model husband- go look up the word "model"...i did...
model: small imitation of the real thing.
dayum....
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 9:18:51 PM |
If a man buys (or even just looks at) porn, what's the opinion he has of the women in them? Does he think they're trashy, or that they're doing what they can to pay their way through life?
I've met a Playboy model, a woman who ran her own porn site, and a few strippers in my day. Some of them just did it for some quick money, and others genuinely enjoyed doing it and did so because they were passionate about it (even the strippers).
Just like any place in life, you're going to meet the gamut of people in porn. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 9:31:01 PM | I don't expect my g/f to act like a pornstar in bed or look as good as a supermodel. Just like you shouldn't expect all guys to be as suave as the actor in the romantic movie or look like Johnny Depp or (insert other prettyboy actor). It's just unrealistic and people need to understand that =). Guys look at porn to just get off and in some cases, read the articles! SHOCKING!
I put my money towards something I'd enjoy looking at. Same as how you'd put your money into listening to that band / singer you like or that chick flick you've been dying to see. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 11:17:49 PM | I think of it the same as any other actor/singer/performer. I like the perfomance, but I have no idea if I'd want to hang out with that person like one of my friends.
Now in this day of tabloid and blog mania where every move of certain "celebutantes" are documented, I can see that no, I would not want to hang out with them and live that kind of lifestyle, but if they did some show that was entertaining, sure I might show up.
The two are distinct and 99% of men know that and don't fuss about it. It's the women who do the fussing and continually ask questions about how they are supposed to be like "the women in the magazines".
The simple answer is, YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THEM! That's why I'm dating YOU instead of chasing THEM. Duh! Those women are fun TO WATCH. When you start acting like THEM, you get dumped for the plain woman down the street. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 11:27:15 PM | If i open a mag of todays models, upon glimpse my first reaction is they need to be in the HOSPITAL!! They look like skin stretched over BONES. A normal woman has some MEAT on them.
I think it's answers like mine women want, as to what wee see as right, sort of like us guys want to really know do they want us 7 foot tall or 6 foot tall or skinny or reg or fat. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/1/2008 11:43:54 PM | Well, it's a picture.
Little thought goes into "who" they are.
I'm grateful for the waitress who serves me food. That doesn't mean I want to be her friend. She brings me my food.
And with porn, she brings me tits. Neither come for free.
I'm not understanding why I'm obligated to have an emotional connection to porn. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/2/2008 1:20:00 AM | Can one of you guys give me a non-defensive, humourous and succinct reason?
Yes, simple, like most things on these forums, we don't think like you do.
They are objects in the movie, not real, not a person they are just there. The fact I would look at them does not in any way say I want to know them or even want to meet them. They serve their purpose and that is that.
As for no moral regard, well there are a lot of people out there that I have no moral regard or no respect for. To find someone good looking, I don't need to respect them or have moral regard for them. Next you will think guys should respect hookers or FWB. They serve the same purpose as porn except there is physical contact aside from ones own hand. 
The fact that men can and are physically attracted to women they don't respect or have regard for but will gladly part with their money to either have their fantasy with them or have them physically is exactly why these industries are there.
It is all imagery and fantasy. Women have the emotional with romance novels and guys have the physical with porn. They both serve the same purpose. It is the responsibility of both to realize what is fantasy and what is reality. Once those are mixed up then all hell breaks loose and trouble is not far behind.
Just my 2 cents. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/2/2008 1:25:24 AM |
If i open a mag of todays models, upon glimpse my first reaction is they need to be in the HOSPITAL!! They look like skin stretched over BONES. A normal woman has some MEAT on them. Geesh! What weird porn are you looking at? Anorexic's Digest Har har | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/2/2008 2:32:07 AM | I don't think of them at all, I just look at the pictures.
I've had the opportunity to meet a very famous, though somewhat past her prime porno star. She's a very well adjusted and nice woman, who I wouldn't mind dating at all.
The girls who pose for these things come in all different types.
Some are perfectly normal, some are total wackos, just like regular people. | |
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| Models in skin mags: what do you think of them?
Posted: 6/2/2008 10:29:26 AM | Do some men judge porn models as being immoral, even tho' they enjoy the view .. that's my main question. A 'yes' or 'no' is fine, unless you feel like it needs to be qualified, and it's just a query: no need for snide, scornful retorts. Let's just be nice here, ok?
Also, I wasn't saying I think the images are meant to represent OR replace 'real' people. That wasn't my point.
Is he judging himself for looking at what he is judging her for doing? | |
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