| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 12:43:16 PM | | Why is it in every thread about Obama,what he believes,what he does, what he says, who he associates with, the conversation is steered towards Bush by the Obama supporters?Is it possible for Obama supporters to argue Obamas positions ,affiliations and views without redirecting the argument to Bush? I was just on a thread about the fist pump used by the Obamas and after only 3 posts by others the Obama supporter mentioned Bush, what does Bush have to do with anything about why the Obamas pump their fists or use any gestures?It is common knowledge on these Forums that many do not like Bush so why the need to constantly bash Bush when a conversation is clearly about Obama?I even notice this on news broadcasts someone will mention something about Obama instead of trying to research why Obama does, says or believes what he does they just say redirect the focus to someone else. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 12:46:55 PM | | They aren't really excited about The obama...their excitement comes from hating Bush. Most know very little about The obama...or Bush either other than what they get from the home office. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 12:49:43 PM | Yeah and I just wanna be clear that when I used to slap my Black husband on the ass that REALLY meant I was pro Hamas......it certainly wasn't an intimate moment between him and I as a couple. Cuz you know........I did that up on a political stage in front of a jillion people. Yup. Yup.  | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 12:53:49 PM | Why is it that on every thread every third post begins with "why is it that Obama supporters.................."
Now there's a whole thread dedicated to this. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 1:49:07 PM | Here's an anology:
You catch your significant other cheating on you.
Rather than stand up and have a conversation about the new development between the couple the offending party deflects the topic to any and all other issues because he knows he's going to go down the black hole of calcutta if he talks about the real issue at hand.
He in effect has no defense, making his only defense one of deflecting the issue. To deflect he will get angry and/or create an arguement on anything but the matter at hand thus putting the offended party in a defensive mode and taking all focus away from the original topic of discussion.
Let's hear from you MG... show 'em how it's done. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 1:56:32 PM | You mean like some people throw in Black Liberation Theology, and Afrocentricity in every thread ?
Or how all liberals are THIS or THAT ?
You mean like that ? 
Here's the logic.
You can see little difference between McCain and Bush, on many fronts. It's hard to squeeze a playing card between them, to be honest.
If this election is now between Obama and McCain, as it's appeared to be for quite a while, then that Bush element is important to highlight - and Obama's differences, which are quite evident.
So one must contrast the old with the new, and show why that difference is important.
I know certain Republicans would love for Bush to vanish, as many of us liberals would too, to be honest. We are, sadly, stuck with him until Jan 09.
I know they'd also like to make the case that McCain and Bush are TOTALLY different. Nothing at all the same, really. 
So post a thread on how different they are, and why - and prove it to all of us doubters. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 2:03:34 PM | And you republicans are always accusing democrats of whining. Geez, what do you call this?
On Topic: Cat meet kettle. Kettle this is cat.
PS, Bush can't win a war if a soldiers life depended on it. 0-2 | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 2:08:02 PM | | Once again Mg with the going off on a tangent, why can't Obama supporters address issue without pointing fingers everywhere else? your question really makes no sense,what does what someone believes have to do with Obama supporters changing the subject to Bush every time anything about Obama is questioned? this thread is a great example look how you went off and now challenge people to discuss Bush and McCain....thanks for making my point so eloquently... | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 2:11:41 PM | Ummm...insolent ?
YOU were the first one to connect the two in the thread, first sentence.
Why is it in every thread about Obama,what he believes,what he does, what he says, who he associates with, the conversation is steered towards Bush by the Obama supporters?
So, how can one possibly explain the relevance of the connection without mentioning Bush at all ?
Hmmmm ? | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 2:24:57 PM | But, dammit MG, *she said desperately TRYING to resist posting* the kid didn't mention afrocentricism ONCE during that post. Come on!!!
I'm thinking Obama supporters have rallied around him to the extent that we have, insolent, because we are impressed with the fact that he is able to cogently complete a sentence. There's also the small matter of the catastrophic level of scandal associated with the Bush administration when it comes to the war. We see Obama as capable of getting us the hell outta there in a way that won't further endanger the American way of life for future generations; I see Bush as being imminently more concerned with feathering the pockets of the wealthy. We transfer those concerns over to McCain cuz he's a Republican and some of that isn't fair.
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 2:38:09 PM | Although some people post questions to make a rhetorical point rather than to actually seek answers and insight, I'll bite regardless.
My answer is that people do this in order to bring perspective to the discussion. One cannot really speak in absolutes and not expect others to bring in other related people and subjects for the sake of perspective. Things do not reside in a vacuum. This seems to be especially true with politics and presidents. It's just the nature of the beast, and politics can be such a beast! If perspective is not introduced to the issue, ignorance, hypocrisy, and, obviously, lack of perspective is allowed to flourish.
Examples:
"George Washington had wooden teeth. Eeew!"
"So did (insert political peers here). Considering that dentistry was in its infancy..."
or (more recently)
"That Clinton dismantled our military!"
"True, but one needs to realize that Bush started down the road of dismantling it in large part because of the end of the Cold War." | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 2:44:35 PM | We use Bush's blunders to make our points when your feelings/sentiments about Obama doesn't logically coincide with what Bush has done. People will bring up Obama's past with Rev Wright and act like he is the only one who has former friends who are unsavory. So, of course we're going to point out that McCain has ties to Falwell and Bush has ties to Ted Haggert. We're not going to bring a knife to a gun fight or just sit back why you spew on about how your party is so great and dominate and the democrats are the worst form of life. The problem you're having is that we have far more ammo for Bush than you have for Obama.
It's called taking you to task. We expect you to hold your candidate to as high a standard as you hold ours. Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill when your leader is king of that mountain. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 4:21:18 PM | I dont see Obama supporters pointing to Bush except to say that we would like, for once, someone we can feel some pride and honor in rather than someone who sounds like a sleazy used car salesman.
Ive felt ashamed by this administration. It was real clear to me while we were beating the drums to invade Iraq that it was a lie ...........the French were saying wait, let the
blix team come forward with their findings, they arent turning anything up, lets have some evidence..... and Bush and team were fear-mongering, not willing to accept reality..... defying the world.......it was disgusting to watch my own country do this.
Ya, a lot of people want someone in the White House we can feel proud of and maybe partly due to feeling so ashamed at the 8 years weve had watching America taken hostage by the radicals in office................and in the population, to see so many hateful, callous people supporting them, too.
So what?
Obama stands on his own. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 4:42:23 PM | But, dammit MG, *she said desperately TRYING to resist posting* the kid didn't mention afrocentricism ONCE during that post. Come on!!!
I too, see that as a giant leap for mankind--ok, a leap for Insolent. My question is...why is the 'fist pump' news? Did you see what Bush did, the chest bump at a somber military ceremony? Now that's news.
Insolent...I really don't know how you can go on the threads that are talking about criminal charges for the current administration and say "so what, get over it", and then post about why it's important to discuss the fist pump. Dude, really. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 4:46:01 PM | Is it possible for Obama supporters to argue Obamas positions ,affiliations and views without redirecting the argument to Bush?
Is it possible for you to discuss Obama without referring to "the reverend" or to "Rezko"? | |
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| Obama supporters and B*$#
Posted: 6/7/2008 5:23:09 PM |
This thread is so pointless I refuse to post on it. LMAO...
On Topic: The suggestion that only one side of the discussion does this is BULL SH*T .
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 6:06:50 PM | OP, the Obama supporters know what the REAL issues facing this country and the world are.
We are not distracted by the non-issues like who he associates with and what the former pastor of his former church says.
We know the issues are the war Bush misled the country into, exorbitant food and gas prices, the foreclosure crisis and so on.
The real question is why do anti Obama people constantly try to distract us from the real issues with all this pettiness? 
Obama 2008 | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 6:20:03 PM | ^^^^Don't try to make too much since with real questions to someone with screen name such as his.
Insolent:
Presumptuous and insulting in manner or speech; arrogant.
Audaciously rude or disrespectful; impertinent. Dictionary.com | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 6:23:01 PM | The BLT I believe in is Bacon Lettuce and Tomato
Seriously, I believe that Obama supporters are bringing up Bush because it has only a 23% approval rating, and discussing what he would do differently than Bushboy is a valid way to get people to consider Obama as a candidate. Makes perfect sense to me.
GO OBAMA!!!!!!! | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 8:05:39 PM | Skoochie, you are very brave. You said audaciously. You know who that's going to tie you to....don't you?
I also refuse to post.
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 8:14:43 PM | Be my guest.. and you could call it.. "Why are there so many Obama threads? and non-obama threads get deleted."  | |
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