| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:29:05 PM | Remember when your parents told you that just because all the other kids are doing it doesn't make it right?
Well I'm going to be the daddy here and explain why all the follow-the-crowd Bush bashers may enjoy the camaraderie of their adolescent rebellion when it comes to President Bush, but are way off the mark when it comes to the reality of his most important accomplishment: keeping us free of terrorism within our borders.
Point #1
Does anyone really believe that Al Qaeda's strategy was to hit us only once in 8 years?
"Hey Mohammad?"
"Yes Achmed?"
"Let's strike fear in those American Satins and attack them on 9/11."
"Wonderful my brother, in the name of Allah, then what?"
"Then we will do nothing for 8 years so that the infidels shall know the pain of true terror and bow to our every wish!"
"Ahhhhh, 8 years brother Mohammad? Isn't that a little long? They could recover, or even forget about us by then. In 8 years, they might even be able to inflict serious damage to our organization. Shouldn't we keep striking while we are at our peak strength and before they have a chance to regroup?"
Duh?
The reality is that we have been so free of terrorism, we have become so complacent, we have recovered so well from the resolve we felt after 9/11, that many among us have concluded that there is no more threat.
Yet, the same people who are feeling so liberated from those feelings of terror and imminent demise we all had after 9/11, the same ones who would be the first to blame President Bush if, God forbid, another attack took place, give the President NO CREDIT WHATSOEVER for their liberation.
Blame mommy and daddy for your problems, fail to recognize their role in resolving them: more adolescent behavior.
"How sharper than a serpant's tooth is to have a thankless child!"
Point #2
There are two ways to fight a war:
Carpet bomb civilians until the enemy surrenders as we did in WWII or;
Fight a "humanitarian" war like we are now, sacrificing efficiency to avoid civilian casualties.
Which method do you figure will take longer to achieve victory?
The same people that insist that we fight this humanitarian style war, are complaining that it is taking too long.
"Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"
Sorry kids; mommy and daddy could end this war with a victory in very short order if they wanted to, but are trying not to upset you.
The real problem with fighting a humanitarian war is hoping that the liberals on your own side don't turn on you before you can finish the job. There is still a good case for carpet bombing.
Point #3 (completely off topic)
If B. Hussein Obama wins the Presidency, can we expect Michelle "I've never been proud to be an American" Obama to be running on her "35 years of experience" after his term is up?
Sorry kids, I'm afraid there is no Santa Clause. And in spite of the popularity of the Bush bashing game (suitable for ages toddler through 12 years old), President Bush's policy of going overseas to fight the battle over there instead of on our own streets, taking the fight to the Islamic extremist enemy in Iraq, a central location in the midst of the Arab/Persian Middle Eastern threat, and tying up the extremist's resources in that battle was not only the right strategy, but was likely the only strategy that would have led to the freedom from terrorism that we have all enjoyed for the past 7 years.
Who's yo daddy? | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:34:13 PM | Or, "hey, Osama, we were thinking of doing an attack on America, can you spare another 18 of the boys?"
"Sorry, Mohammed, we've got our hands full in Iraq and Afganistan, praise to Allah, maybe another time".
18 guys, boxcutters..........yep, keeping them busy in Iraq, cant spare any.......... | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:44:34 PM | Ohhhhh.... baby....your my daddy !!!!!! 3000 miles away !!!! Call me.....LOL.........
I'm serious........S.
BTW.......You are so right.
PS..... I have family in ...... Long Island, NY...... | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:51:25 PM | This place is funny  I've said the same things over and over to people if this wasn't just a ploy to start a war then were are the rest of the attacks in 8 years ? their sshould have been something right ? I'm glad an edit button popped in here because forget to read what I write before I click enter. | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:52:03 PM |
Which method do you figure will take longer to achieve victory?
Please, by all means, give us the definition of "victory" as it pertains to the current conflict in Iraq and then maybe we can attempt to answer the question | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 10:13:02 PM | oh look , another clown that thinks the ends justify the means
iraq isnt at war with the united states ya clown, the united states attacked and invaded like the cowards they have always been
carpet bombing civilians is about the only way these morons can attack anyone because even with all the technology at their disposal, running an armyof brain dead automatons isnt all its cracked up to be
well not since unfriendly media sources are also allowed to document and report on the attrocities
when the restof the world hears of how pathetic and desperate the american army is , thepressure is thenleveled upon them by the global community
we cannot all sit idly by and allow the bully on the block to attack and injure the weaker players in the schoolyard forever .
i dont advocate violent acts upon anyone , however boycottes and embargos can cripple a country alot faster and more severely than any invasion or occupation, as we already know , directly from history
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President Bush's policy of going overseas to fight the battle over there instead of on our own streets, taking the fight to the Islamic extremist enemy in Iraq, a central location in the midst of the Arab/Persian Middle Eastern threat, and tying up the extremist's resources in that battle was not only the right strategy, but was likely the only strategy that would have led to the freedom from terrorism that we have all enjoyed for the past 7 years
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hmm where exactly have you seen any freedom from terrorism over the last 7 years mr wizard? the iraqui populace has been terrorized by the yanks and so have the afghan farmers
you know who they are dont you
they produce 94% of the worlds opium trade, kinda like vietnam but only adifferent drug, notice any similarities?
bush hasnt saved anyone from terror, he is the terrorist
u just cant see it because in your twisted little " me " world you feel secure in the knowledge that no american soldier is banging down your door in the middle of the night to rape your wife and children and then murder them infront of your eyes
however im sure quite a few iraqui peasants see this as a nightly ritual | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 10:33:13 PM | Relax... No need to feel so threatened.
This system of allowing people who disagree with your opinions to vote to delete your threads will surely get this thread deleted soon. It virtually assures that only one side of as issue will be heard.
I see that the vote tally is almost there already.
To those who voted to have my opinion deleted, what is it about hearing an opinion that differs from yours that you find so threatening that you feel you must silence it? | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 10:33:27 PM | "The reality is that we have been so free of terrorism, we have become so complacent, we have recovered so well from the resolve we felt after 9/11, that many among us have concluded that there is no more threat.
Yet, the same people who are feeling so liberated from those feelings of terror and imminent demise we all had after 9/11, the same ones who would be the first to blame President Bush if, God forbid, another attack took place, give the President NO CREDIT WHATSOEVER for their liberation."
And, pray tell, exactly what is this so-called "liberation" you refer to?
hmmm....6-plus years of increased "security" at airports; erosion of civil rights; arrests and indefinite incarceration without charges, proof or, in most cases, EVIDENCE of any wrong-doing; various colourful "terror alerts", etc. etc.... Nope! No terror here! Nothing to see! Move along.......
"Duh?"....Indeed!!
"If B. Hussein Obama wins the Presidency, can we expect Michelle "I've never been proud to be an American" Obama to be running on her "35 years of experience" after his term is up?"
Ah yes! There it is again! That clever little tactic of emphasizing Obama's middle name, as if that somehow equates him with being a terrorist. Cute, but most of us gave up that sort of juvenile nonsense in grade school.
""How sharper than a serpant's tooth is to have a thankless child!""
How sadder than limp balloon to have a brainless head
"To those who voted to have my opinion deleted, what is it about hearing an opinion that differs from yours that you find so threatening that you feel you must silence it?"
Don't know. Maybe you should ask Bill O'Reilly. Or anybody who thinks that those who oppose the Iraq invasion are "un-American" or "traitors" Just a thought...
Judging by the tone of your OP, it seems like you're one of those of which you speak. What is it about those who disagree with Bush that you find so threatening? Are you perhaps afraid of those who are actually capable of independent thought? I know it's comforting to just follow along with what Big Brother Bush tells you, but really, DO try to think for yourself sometime! I know it sounds scary to you and that you don't really want to see the truth, but you really should try it.
" As soon as anotjher democrat takes office we'l l be Hit again and I do mean sooner than later and it will be catastrofic ..hope not but fear it will be .."
Gee, that sounds like a threat. Perhaps Homeland Security should be investigating this clown, "SGFRMBOY." Sounds like a terrorist to me!!
P.S. I really hope this thread is NOT deleted. Even though it is a pathetic attempt at a troll, it's always fun to see the Bush acolytes strive for new and ever more desperate ways to justify their idiot-king's tactics in his ill-conceived "War of Terror." Keep that ole "foot-in-mouth' stuff coming! It's hilarious!!! | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 10:34:45 PM | | Your wasting your time to convience Bush Haters they will be Bush haters right up to the point of them loosing their heads and fleeing the cities from a dirty bomb,after of course when a democrat takes office this time .These Jack asses wouldnt know a Terrorist from Mother Tereasa,and would welcome them in the name of political correctness to take their heads as a guilt thing for killing so called Innocent victims of Iraq and other wars ,and if they were so Innocent how did they get such a government to start with to go as far as kill so many other innocent victims all over the world..Hmmmm ? As soon as anotjher democrat takes office we'l l be Hit again and I do mean sooner than later and it will be catastrofic ..hope not but fear it will be ..maybe only then will anyone ever appreciate what Bush has dont for this country ..I didnt agree with everything he did and found many mistakes ,one not making it known exactly how much of a threat that part fo the region was and how right it was to go in to keep them there and not coming here to kill our men women and children,,thats what war is about kiling them all,people,not to strategically place a bomb as to not kill the dog or child that gets in the way .These same people know nothing about war.Its not good but it has to be done or they will do it to us .If a man enters your home with ill intent ,you dont ask him to leave.you shoot and ask questions later or you may be the one lying on the floor dead..I think everyone should reasearch wars and strategies and the outcomes of what people did or didnt do to win the war and why iut was fought in the first place,like who started it and so forth and then maybe you will GET IT | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 10:45:30 PM | from the grog guy "The reality is that we have been so free of terrorism, we have become so complacent, we have recovered so well from the resolve we felt after 9/11, that many among us have concluded that there is no more threat.
america is much worse off now and much more prone to threat since bush took office. He has started a world war and if he invades another country we all had better run becasue the world is going to take this country from us in a heart beat. his arrogance has destroyed us. if we don't stop now we are all sitting ducks. I've spent alot of time in europe and I know what's happening over there. the world hate us now they are just waiting for an attack on iran to seal the deal and we are all toast.
The chinese and russians are just waiting to see how far it will go and they can take us out in a heart beat. | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 10:59:13 PM | "Bushs Masterful Job on Terrorism"
Hah, Hah, Hah, You ARE being sarcastic, right?
bush is fighting a war of terror based on lies. The U.S. was attacked by countryless criminals, a criminal act. It could have been handled by law enforcment agencys.
instead the US attacked two innocent countrys and killed over a million people and now you want to carpet bomb more. You are one sick puppy.
have you enjoyed freedom from terrorism the last seven years? How many false alarms have you endured so that a piece of constitution eroding legislation can be rammed through, you've lost habeus corpus, the Patrriots act can put you away without a trial if your neighbour wants to settle a score and says you are a terrorist.
Yeah, old bushy has done a masterful job. | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/7/2008 11:49:58 PM | | o my. Like the rain....OP, it's your kind of thinking that got us into this mess in the first place, and well before 9/11. But of course you are right, it's wholly inappropriate for Americans to concern themselves with silly things like rules of war, humanitarianism, international law or ideas about human rights or other silly things. Be sure to post again when you find youself, so happily, in a country that doesn't, en masse (as opposed to merely in the White House) concern themselves with such trivialities. :) | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/8/2008 12:09:45 AM | First things first, I am no bush supporter.
It could have been handled by law enforcment agencys.
Oh, like Clinton handled the Cole and all the embassy bombings.
Yea, that worked so well.
Did Bush screw up? Yea, things could have been done differently but we have yet to be attacked again.
As far as all these human rights and U.N fans, I could care less what happens to these other countries.
They could turn the middle east into a big glass parking lot and I wouldn't lose a bit of sleep.
I am an American and want America defended.
We will be attacked again and the attackers will simply walk across the border.
When one or more of the missing suitcase bombs go off in Chicago, LA, Denver, DC or any other large city and millions die we can always call a cop. | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/8/2008 12:15:30 AM |
They could turn the middle east into a big glass parking lot and I wouldn't lose a bit of sleep.
Which is exactly the kind of mentality that makes so many people think that killing us is a "no loss of sleep" issue. Congratulations on your enlightened POV...and sweet dreams.
Edit: And if you don't mind killing them....why should they give a damn about killing you? Hmmm...sounds tailor made for a beautiful and continuing cycle of ugly violence....no? | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/8/2008 12:31:54 AM |
and if they were so Innocent how did they get such a government to start with
Gee...I don't know....perhaps we should ask previous administrations why they so gleefully handed over chemical and biological weapons....(not really weapons...just pre-cursers WINK that enabled Mr. Hussein (as I'm sure he was addressed as at the time) to reek havoc over the Iranian...and later his own...population.
Ah...yes....that infamous photo shot of Rumsfeld...says much.....
Who propped up Hussein? Many countries.
Whom did he ask permission of before invading Kuwait?
Where did that "green light" come from?
That's just a few questions worthy of research into "how did they get such a government to start with"... | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/8/2008 12:42:59 AM | SGFRMBOY:
These Jack asses wouldnt know a Terrorist from Mother Tereasa,and would welcome them in the name of political correctness to take their heads as a guilt thing for killing so called Innocent victims of Iraq and other wars ,and if they were so Innocent how did they get such a government to start with to go as far as kill so many other innocent victims all over the world..Hmmmm ?
Thanks for spotlighting this outdoor, otherwise I would have missed it.
SGFRMBOY, have you ever considered trying to discover the answers to these kinds of deep questions? Or do you assume that the form of govt a people has is simply a reflection of their genetic material....so happily and righteously splashed about by our bombs if we happen to decide, one day, that we don't consider them "free" enough to deserve to live? | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/8/2008 6:19:24 AM | Does anyone believe that organized terrorists would have only the strategy to attack, attack, attack? That they would have no other ends to achieve other than their believed means?
They wanted to destroy the American way of life... to destroy our liberties and prosperity from within so to speak or in other words they calculated that such a horrendous attack as 9/11 would prompt us to destroy ourselves.
The Patriot Act providing means not limited to suspicion of terrorism to erode civil liberties and a war without regard for Constitutional process generating incredible national debt and leading toward incredible economic collapse. Why attack us again? Liberty and Prosperity diminishing daily. The Objectives of 9/11 are being realized with astonishing success.
We're not dealing with ignorant people only motivated by hatred and a single objective to kill. They have objectives and are able to calculate a strategy. I believe that there has been no new attacks because there has been no need. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 7:20:45 AM | One point. Afghanistan was not an innocent country.
They allowed Al Qaeda to open bases there where 9/11 was planned and the people who carried it out were trained. Under international law that constituted and act of aggression. The UN and the whole world backed the invasion of Afghanistan.
Furthermore I don't hate Bush. I just shake my head at him. The same way I shake my head at Bin Laden. There's nothing more dangerous or sad than a person who believes that they are incapable of being wrong. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 8:19:15 AM | Now if you want to advance the theory that the real reason that Islamic extremists have not staged another organized attack within US borders in 7 years is that they are watching our own Democrat/liberal/socialist/communist/Bolshevik elements destroy us from within and therefore would prefer to let them do the bidding for them, then I think you might be onto something.
Why knock yourself out when your allies within are willing to do all the work?
No wonder all the major terrorist organizations endorse B. Hussein Obama. | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/8/2008 8:23:54 AM | | Op..i agree 100% ..while people would never think of giving one bit of credit to the man for us not being attacked they would immediately blame him if we were...the American presidency...the biggest baby sitting job in the world | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/8/2008 8:37:11 AM | Bush bashing is part of the lefts path to enlightenment. It's like saving green stamps and the prize is a high five from the other Bush bashers. It looks good to them but to a big slice of the actual voters it's a huge turn off.
Fighting a humanitarian war is nuts...a war is a war...people get hurt...die...all kinds of bad things happen. Fighting a war should be done with the idea of getting it over with and winning...not draggin it out for years which just prolongs the suffering and damage. | |
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| President Bush's Masterful Job On Terrorism
Posted: 6/8/2008 9:02:08 AM | romantic,
yes, Afghanistan was an innocent country. The plot for 911 was hatched in Germany and carried out by Saudis who were watched over by no less than 200 israeli "art students" as they trained in Florida.
The films of the Mujahadin training camps were old CIA films held at the ready because the bush administration was looking for an excuse to invade Afghanistan since the Taliban were stubbornly holding out for better terms for the pipeline rightofway. Remember " if you refuse our carpet of gold, we'll give you a carpet of bombs!"
like the rain, if you want to find bolsheviks in your government you need to look closer than the democrats. Neocon ideology is rooted in trotskyism. | |
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