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Posted: 6/8/2008 9:00:06 AM | I was looking at the little list of things women dislike as far as conversation goes:
1. Politics
2. Other dates
3. Past relationships
4. Science fiction
5. Religion
6. Celebrities
7. Science
8. Antiques
9. Money
10. History
I find it ironic that it's the top 10 things men love talking about (well maybe not Antiques, ha ha). So, once again, we have to put on a show to meet someone decent. Now who I am going to talk about Iraq's 1990 annexation of Kuwait and it's eventually ejection from that country? | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 9:23:41 AM | You dont have to put on a show to meet someone decent at all,you just have to find common ground!.
So men and womens topic of conversation tends to differ,theres nothing new in that,and women will happily listen to your favourite subjects as long as it is not constantly all you talk about . | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 9:58:03 AM | This would be the little list of suggestions to speak about, or not to speak about, with women...
As usual, this list is a generalization of ALL women...I personally could probably contribute to each subject in this list, but it's the real life subjects, experiences, and adventures that I want to hear about, and love talking about...
These little lists are just about as important to me as the chemistry tests.... | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 2:41:08 PM | | I enjoy debating politics and religion, and I enjoy some sci-fi, as well. I could personally care less about antiques, money, history, or celebrities, though. I think the lists are silly, myself..... | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 4:26:49 PM | Ask the woman what she is passionate about (or if that's too fruity for ya, ask her what she does in her leisure time, or what kinds of films she likes, or books she reads...). See if you can talk about that. A few women I met actually give answers that were related to politics, religion, science or even antiques (?). Sometimes it might be crocheting, cats, stir-fry or fashion.
Ya gotta find the common ground as someone already said. That's the only hoop people have to jump through.
Personally I think there has to be some common ground where the conversations are natural and enjoyable, else the relationship is not going to last very long. Just my experience. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 8:19:58 PM | It's rarely what you talk about...it's HOW you talk about it.
If you're funny, open-minded, listening to the other person then anyone will talk about anything with you.
If you're closed minded, dogmatic, and go on and on without letting others get a word in edgewise, you could be laying out the secrets of life and no one will listen. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 8:27:43 PM |
I find it ironic that it's the top 10 things men love talking about (well maybe not Antiques, ha ha) [/quote}
Hmmm funny that guys wouldn't want to talk about a nice 57 chevy or a ford fairlane... | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 12:49:59 AM | In reality the mens favourite topics of conversation are
1/ Sport
2/ Cars
3/ Politics
4/ Work Career
5/ Money
6/ Home repairs
7/ Sex | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 7:46:33 AM | You can't believe everything you read, specially "statistics" or surveys. I love talking about religions, politics, history, life...and yes, I even love hearing about someone's past relationships.
I'm not into celebrities and I don't watch TV so I can't very well talk about what I don't know ( and don't care to know).
Money talk bores me to tears and I have absolutely zero interests in sports so I'm outta luck there. To each their own I say:)
JMO | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 8:46:24 AM | | girls love to talk about themselves... so let her talk about herself, ask open ended questions and control the conversation, i mean seriously if your on a date and you're thinking of something to talk about... you'll blow it , you don't wanna say something stupid... the only time i've ever said anything stupid was when I was talking. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 9:00:21 AM | 1. Politics - Liberal - can talk about it all day
2. Other dates - I am curious about other experiences
3. Past relationships - you can't prevent future mistakes w/out examining the past
4. Science fiction - I am a total trekie Love Robert Heinlin
5. Religion - Atheist but I can talk about it
6. Celebrities - Paris, Britney, Johnny Depp, yup can discuss all that too
7. Science - I love science and technology - big time into digital photograph
8. Antiques - collect old radios and 1950s kitchen stuff
9. Money - make it spend it (litigation paralegal)
10. History - Love history of all kinds and all cultures - watched Ken Burns on PBS all the time
Sounds like you pick dumb women and then tear them apart - try talking to some intelligent educated women - if you can handle it. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 11:02:50 AM | If I have to put on a show to meet someone, then I am not so sure they are all that decent. I have learned to appreciate my uniqueness and accept myself - I do not allow others to define who I am, and those who know me well love me as I am and accept my flaws as part of my character. I am not a trained monkey and don't do the hoop thing, and wouldn't expect anyone else to do that.
I am constantly amazed how so many people want to put everyone under one catagory. I doubt that ALL men love talking about those top ten or that ALL women dislike those topics. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 11:41:06 AM | If you have to jump through hoops then you can be true to who you really are, Be yourself and be proud,, Be honest from the start and no not even one little white lie..I have learned thru the school of hard knocks that be true to yourself and your match will happen when u least exspect it...  | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 1:51:01 PM | Hoops? And who sez anyways, lol! I tend to end up with guys that have motorcycles in their pasts -- don't have a clue as to why -- But if they want to talk motorcycles newer than an Indian Scout, gotta admit I'm lost. . . . Which so far as I can see has affected my love life not at all.
A few relationships ago, I was involved with a disabled coal miner. Coaling mining was a subject I'd not been previously interested in. But he really loved it, was passionate about it, and loved to talk about it. And I found that I did, too. It *was* really fascinating.
So basically, if *you* are interesting and passionate on prolly any subject (I would remove Bush from the list. . . ), you're free to talk about it, so far as I'm concerned.
If you tailor your self to some mythical middle of the road list -- then that's what you'll end up with. Be yourself, and if that's not good enough, move on down the stream: lotsa fishies here. . . .
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Posted: 6/10/2008 3:38:33 PM |
Now who I am going to talk about Iraq's 1990 annexation of Kuwait and it's eventually ejection from that country?
He he. I can talk wars and politics all night long.
Just don't ask me anything about celebrities, cuz I might cut off my own arm to get out of THAT conversation.
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Posted: 6/10/2008 3:46:33 PM | | maybe its just me but i think the sci-fi thing might be the problem | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 4:54:52 PM | | OP, yup, exactly. I've found that the best way to weed out all the woman chasing you is to throw out something that has to do with politics. Most women will be stumped or not care. The remaining 99% will spew a bunch of liberal claptrap that proves that women want your money -- directly or indirectly. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 7:13:14 PM |
The remaining 99% will spew a bunch of liberal claptrap that proves that women want your money -- directly or indirectly.
How does being politically liberal translate into women wanting your money?
Curious mind wants to know...
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Posted: 6/10/2008 7:34:28 PM |
Curious mind wants to know...
LOL! Well he *does* prove sumpin' I've long suspected: conservatives are (no longer) big thinkers. . . . I believe Rush hijacked them all. . . .
Oh, wait, wait, I know ! Liberal are ALWAYS after your money. Every good conservative knows that. . . . Forget that Clinton left a surplus, and we're now, what?, three trillion bucks in debt. Tax and spend is ever so much worse than borrow and spend, yanno? | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 7:59:53 PM | I think I'm just different...like a Seinfeld episode...because I talk about a whole lot of nothing and usually men think it's a whole lot of something. I joke around and tease and I guess I don't have a list of do's and don't's.
See already...my mind has drifted to the word "don't's" . Does it have 1 or 2 appostrophy's?!?!?! lol Maybe it's "don'ts" . No...that doesn't look right...maybe it's not a proper word at all?!?! Or...Maybe I am just silly because for me that can be a topic of discussion...lol | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 8:04:39 PM | | Not that I am an expert on this or any subject, but if you have to "jump through hoops" isn't that the first sign you are dating the wrong woman. It seems like with the right woman there will be periods of comfortable silence when it is ok just to say nothing. But then again what do I know? | |
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Posted: 6/11/2008 7:15:36 AM | I'm gonna go with the cliche. Just be yourself. If she can't handle it...just find a new GF.
Incidentally, what I talk about:
1. Food
2. Photography
3. Work
4. TV
5. What to do for an adventure | |
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Posted: 6/11/2008 8:40:34 AM | I think you have to gauge things based on the girl you're out with.
Some things are a big no-no, like other dates, exes, past relationships, etc. However, other things on that list can be totally cool. What if she's a sci-fi fan? What if she likes antiques or loves to watch the History channel and talk about things like that?
One cannot just sit there assuming men and women are so closed-minded that all we can talk about are trivial matters, work, and friends. Best way to carry a conversation is ask a question, listen to her, then explore from there. I've asked a woman about her work and she'll tell me and say it's kind of boring, but I'll ask more and she'll realize I am interested in how her career works. Or she'll mention she paints for fun and I'll talk about her work and such. She'll think it's "nothing", but I treat it as something.
Most of the time they think you're genuinely interested in her (which I was interested) and thus conversation can easily flow. You can get someone to easily blabber endlessly about something they are passionate about. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2008 6:57:54 PM | | The key to conversation with women is to keep your mouth shut. Women love to talk and aren't necessarily good listeners. Make and keep them talking by asking them lots of questions. They'll love you as long as they are doing most of the yapping, I mean talking. | |
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