| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 4:57:22 AM | Hi,
My name is Trae. I guess i am somewhat eluding the typical topic: humourk, sex, datingk ect. But i am really interested in knowing your views on this; if you've had experience with chronic pain; what are u doing to alleviate same; meds u r on now...etc.
I am a woman dealing with chronic pain for over four years now and consider myself to be somwhat knowledgeable in this area, however i am NO EXPERT.
Let's chat. Would love to know what you think about this and i do have informationj for you
Thanks for the meet...and i wish you all the best. PS: some of you may be dealing with someone who has chronic pain...please write in as well. Chronic pain is not easy and i've been on the best of meds and worse. Can also lead to depression, etc. Let's CHAT! | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 6:20:27 AM | Well if you have some information I would appreciate it. I take prescription anti-inflammatory drugs to relive my joint pains. Please do share. I would like a more natural way to deal with this. I really hate to take drugs....
As for marijuana, I won't take it. NOT AT ALL....I am not looking for a 'buzz' and that is what marijuna does. I am looking for pain relief. | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 6:22:00 AM | | REgistered nurse: what does crawling over the table comment have anythig to do with this post? No need to make comments like that. IF the lady chooses to post provocative pics here, that is her choice. Besides she looks damn good for 39........you go girl! | |
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Enig
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Joined: 12/18/2004
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 7:15:43 AM | | Well I've known a couple of ppl who had cancer, and the only way to get back their appetite and lessen the pain was to smoke. It's a natural substance and if it works, what difference is that from other drugs really. I prefer not to take any, but if it was to help me and had worse side effects and I was in that position, by all means. The government grows their own so really who am I to condemn it? | |
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Jag64
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Joined: 2/2/2005
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 9:33:54 AM | i dont believe in man made drugs. anything made by man will kill you. ive watched my mothers liver deteriate do to t3s she was put on back in the 70s for a pintched nerve. all the religious ppl know god wouldnt put anything on this earth to kill us and this is his product.
as for a reference book, the marijuana medical hand book is good and can be found in choice bookstores. it dates the use of marijuana back to the egyptions as they found a mummy, after examining had died giving birth, with a chunk of hash in her hand. its not used for just pain either. they use it for nausea, appitite(munchies) muscle spasm and mood swings. so there are many uses for it in the medical field. | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 11:35:02 AM | Jag64
"God" sure did put a lot of substances on this earth that can kill us that are all natural. Take a lot of mushrooms for example.. eat them and you die. What about different aflatoxins that can be found in grains due to bacteria? What about "red blooms" or toxic algae? Eat shellfish that came from the area of a bloom and you're toast. What about the puffer fish? Eat the wrong flesh and you're dead. And the list goes on..
I am a fond proponent of cannabis myself.. but saying that it's right to take it becuz it's a plant that grows naturally is a little silly! | |
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Enig
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Joined: 12/18/2004
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 12:02:15 PM | | Partiallycooked: Well perhaps, but I think everything has it's purpose. It's part of the food chain and think alot of said plants, animal parts ect. will if not already be part of our solutions to cures for such diseases and such. There is shark cartilage for cancer, coral calcium for vitality and longevity, Aloe - Calamus for burns ect. ect. | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 12:38:20 PM | Enig,
I wasn't denying that natural things are beneficial to health care and other aesthetic purposes... but to say that something is right to use becuz "god" put it there is a silly thing to say in my eyes. I think everyone has their own feelings on the subject of marijuana use.. but I would like to see someone defend it for reasons other than it's a plant, and I smoke it becuz it's there. Do people just blindly do or not do what is there based on what other people do? Or do people actually think about it and have solid reasons to use it? I always think about that... | |
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Enig
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Joined: 12/18/2004
Msg: 12 | |
| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 1:28:35 PM | | Partiallycooked: I know what you meant, and yes that would be just for the sake. I was just commenting on that aspect of it and really do think most ppl have a reason when it comes down to it. Sometimes their reasoning isn't as clear at first is all. | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 1:51:50 PM | Hmm, chronic pain is tricky. Especially since the concept of pain itself is very subjective.
I suggest you go to your doctor if you find that its a really big problem and is affecting your every day living.
I also think that if you are looking for herbal solutions, try going to some chinese herbal stores. Sometimes they have good advice. Make sure that the store you go to is owned or ran by a herbal specialist with a degree.
Good luck finding a solution. | |
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Jag64
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Joined: 2/2/2005
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 2:36:45 PM | partiallycooked: im sure there is natural things that would kill us. based on trial and error our anccestors we avoid those things that took them out but i didnt see u mention anything man made that is good for us. all the meds u see advertised is great for ya they say but heres a dozen side affects to watch out for. im not saying take it cus it grows naturaly. im saying its alot better to take a natural thing then something chemicaly cooked in a lab.
as for why you get high off the drug, it concentrates on the higher brain centers that effects function of feelings, memory and action.
btw im not a religious person | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 2:50:17 PM | Haha.. I think that perhaps we're all having a little difficulty in expressing what we mean here...
To say that it's better to take something natural than something "chemically cooked" in a lab.. I don't know how I feel about this statement! I would rather have my product chemically refined and purified in a lab.. where they are going to take out any possibly harmful chemicals that could be in it, or to even just get a purer form that is going to work a lot better for me. For example... lets say you have a headache. Are you going to go and steep a whole bunch of willowbark pots of tea.. or are you going to take 2 tablets of Aspirin?
And indeed, I have some understanding of how THC works on the brain. What I was talking about was people's personal reasons as to using or not using mj. I personally find it quite amusing that some people are so adamantly against it.. yet they have never tried it. | |
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Enig
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Joined: 12/18/2004
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 3:40:48 PM | | Lmao...ok no I'd take anything that made me feel better if I felt it was safe, enough studies done on it and it had been around long enough to have some true positive stats on it. I prefer the wholistic approach overall, because I find overall mixing drugs have a dangerous outcome moreso than not. Things that have been around for umpteen yrs. usually are well known, tried and tested. I totally agree with you ppl shouldn't judge unless they've been there, done that kinda approach, just as if I was terminally ill and a new drug come out, hell ya what've I got to lose. | |
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Joined: 12/15/2004
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 7:25:05 PM | | Oh if i used it for medicinal purposes i would be growing it constantly LOL. Its much better for enjoyment. But... I do think that it is a great tool for people that have certain ailments that require that sort of pain control, I've used it myself as a pain control. It works, thats all there is too it. | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 7:43:16 PM | Well well interesting topic: Im all for the use of it in chronic pain cases. Im not a puffer by nature but recently I have gained an issue. The docs have some scientific evenidence that it is tendonitis. But are also toying with the idea of Rheumatoid. They gave me drugs. Which didnt work they did make me anemic though. Then I went to the cottage a friend who is a legal puffer passed the doob to me. Well three puffs and I was lots better. But three puffs is all I need so thats all I take. When im not at the cottage I pretty much live on a tens machine. Being close to Veterinarian medicine and dealing with many drugs including the expermental sweeties that show up in humane medicine 5 yrs later I know full well whats good with limtied side effects, whats good with major side effects and what doesnt work with side effects.
Pharmaceutical companies rule the world. But they only treat the symtoms not the disease.
It's not in their $$$$ interest to cure the major diseases.
Here are to of the best products for joint issues. Palosien, company, oxis international. a I. M injection that made bad synovial fluid into nice clear fluid with great viscosity. REMOVED FROM THE MARKET ( vets are still trying to find out why)
For over 15 years, the vets have been Inter articulating ( joint shot) a product known as Hyalronic Sodium. No side effects, no drying of the joint, not cartiledge depleation. In the late 90's it became available to humane medicine. Do they use it??? no they still rather stick you with depo medro ( cortisone) which over time does severe damage to the cartiledge. let alone dumps your immune system to an all time low and plays havoc with your A.T. C. H. levels.
There are alot more.
So until the pharmaceutical companys come clean( never) Id rather go homeopathic or herbal. | |
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guyrob
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Joined: 12/11/2004
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/6/2005 9:08:07 PM | | A lot of pain people deal with is sometimes caused by muscle tension, which is when your muscles aren't relaxed, they are stiff and need to be messaged. Hot water helps relieve this. Mental relaxation helps. Reduction in stress and the way you handle it is probably the key to eliminating some chronic pain cycles. Try to find the cause yourself. Don't listen to others, trust your instincts. Bad posture and teeth grinding also cause constant pain and headaches. You have to inform yourself, no one else will. Take care! | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/7/2005 10:04:05 AM | | I am not CRAWLING all over the table. And if you are not going to be interested and are here only to attack me, well, you'd be better of in another forum. If you want to learn...Chronic Pain is not a crock of shit. Obviously you have no clue about it. I hope one day you come to experience where you meet someone who lives with pain every day of their life. Futhermore, I am sorry if my pic offends you. | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/7/2005 10:19:33 AM | Hi,
I have never done Maijuana in my life. But the Pain Clinic in Ottawa has suggested this for me as i am on so many meds that they hope by taking the big M it would, henceforth allow me to not take as many meds. CUrrently, i take six different meds.
It is my understanding that the marijuan, prescribed of course, does not give you the big buzz and very little on munchies. Like any drugs thrown our way, there are some of those effects but not like it would if you would buy weed off the street. This weed is clean and has no "additives" if you know what i mean.
I have triled many other avenues and am currently going to accupuncture. That has helped me a gread deal and is quite inexpensive for those who have insurance, or those who have to put the money out front then get it back after submitting claim for same.
I have been on several anti infl.: celebrex by far was the better one for me. Although there was some controversy about it, it still is on market. Vioxx is another one.... bad, they took it off market, etc. Now i am on mobicox and i must admit that i do suffer from water retention and sometimes lightheadedness. Read up on ALL meds though internet and you'll get the information that you need (sometimes more accuarate that pharmacy as they just usually give you a printout). Believe me, i have learned to use internet like a bible when it comes to my medication.
what anti. inf. are you taking. Are you taking any other medications to help with the pain moreso than inflammation. If you are experiencing a "burning pain" as i do, i have found Neurontin has helped greatly in that area. Because sometimes we have to deal with two pains: the burn and the hurt.
Well, i must go now as i have to get ready for work. I'd love to further discuss anything else with you if you want.
But remember, I am speaking of my experience with chronic pain and the chronic pain in the butt it is....lol
Hope today is a good one. If you have a more direct question, please feel free to contact me.
Some people don't believe in chronic pain because it is not something they can "see". You will or probably have bumped into those. Don't worry.....It is they who are not educated. Chrinic Pain Syndrom as been accepted in the medical field. By chance do you have fibromyalgia?
Take care, Trae | |
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guyrob
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Joined: 12/11/2004
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/7/2005 6:01:10 PM | Sorry to hear the discomfort you are in. Burning pain, is it inflammation? My major complaint is like a dull, non-specific pain in shoulders, neck, and head, probably due to bad posture and stress. It is not sharp at all, just dull and spread out, like a squeezing sensation. Stretches and learning to "let go" have helped. Do you swell at all? Do you use ice packs for the burn?
Keeping positive is VIP, bye now. | |
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| Use of Marijuana for medicinal purposes. What's your take on this?
Posted: 6/7/2005 8:15:59 PM | Trae,
I personally do not use pot, makes me paranoid, which is a really crappy high. A boyfriend I dated did use pot for medicinal reasons, his condition (quadrapelegia) caused horrible spasms in his legs, some so severe he was almost thrown out of bed...and his wheelchair. The muscle relaxants (Baclofen) cause drowsiness with with T 3's for pain.. considering the dose he needed, the side effects were just too much. So he smoked pot..his pain decreased because his spasms did, he did not have to worry about falling out of his chair and he was more productive.
If pot helps with chronic pain..then go for it, frankly who are we to judge those who do use it. Only those who have suffered from chronic pain, without relief from traditional methods, can understand anothers suffering. I have seen the positive side effects..and I have seen pot create pot heads. You know the risks, using pot is your choice.
I wish you all the best
Roseyred77 | |
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