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 Kneehigh66

Joined: 4/27/2008
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Should Britain scrap the royals?
Posted: 6/13/2008 10:19:59 AM
The United nations have said in a report that the UK must consider whether we should keep them, seemily we pay 62p a year in taxes to keep them... Would you prefer to live in a republician state?

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 Netgeek34

Joined: 7/23/2004
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Posted: 6/13/2008 10:33:21 AM
Personally Im not a big fan of either the institution of Monarchy or many of the members of the Royal family but as long as an (albeit declining) majority of the people of the United Kingdom support retaining this form of government I think people should afford it all due respect.

Republicanism is supposed to be about letting the people choose their head of state (and form of Government). All available evidence suggests that most UK people still want a certain Elizabeth the Second as their head of state.

Mind you if Charles ever becomes King I think the monarchy is doomed. I just cant see people ever taking him seriously.
 9dartfinish

Joined: 4/21/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 10:46:50 AM
but in practice do we not already live in a republican state. as a democracy we should at least have a vote on more than which political party we elect. eg. the smoking ban, the way we were conned with the fuel prices( in previous budgets fuel used to go up 4p a gallon not 4p a litre which is 20p a gallon.) we never got a say on the euro or in fact many other things which affect our daily lives are being decided for us without our say so. do going back to the original question. no, i think the royals should get a bit more backbone where the government is concerned, see what is happening to the country, and put the Great back into Britain
 rev_guilliano

Joined: 4/17/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 10:51:08 AM
There are arguements for and against. They bring in a lot of tourism (supposedly, although I think the great majority would still visit here if they didn't exist) which in turn reduces the tax burden on us for their vastly overpaid lives. The Queen is meant to be our head of state, but in reality she has very little to do with the running of the country. Her visits to places place a huge burden on us (there was talk of £50,000 for a private toilet on a visit to Brighton) in terms of policing, additional security, preparation, flights/other travel.

Personally I think they should be done away with. They do nothing for the vast wages they are paid, have made very little contribution to the UK community and pat their staff a pittance for what is, to all extents and purposes, slavery.
 B-DancerM

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Posted: 6/13/2008 11:17:57 AM
I have to say I couldn't imagine Britain without the royals. They are part of what people think of as 'British'. They do bring in tourist, not to say that people wouldn't come anyway but they are a big tick in the pro category for people when planning a holiday. Britain without the royals would kind of be like McDonald's without the golden arches or Happy Meal.

I think they contribute a sense of continuity and idealism - you know all those things that symbols can do for people.
 CharmWitCharisma

Joined: 1/29/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 11:24:40 AM

They are part of what people think of as 'British'.


But aren't they half Greek half German?

I am very much against any form of rule by birth right, I believe very much in a meritocracy. And if I had my way Britain would be ruled by Stephen Fry.
On the subject of them only costing 62p, like so many 'statistics' I do believe that is grossly massaged. Wasn't the Queen far and away the richest person in Britain for years and years, till she had to pay tax then suddenly she was living just above the poverty line.
 rev_guilliano

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Posted: 6/13/2008 11:25:26 AM
They don't offer any sense of continuity or identity to me, yet I pay part of their wages and expenses.

I will say this..... if I was offered an honour from the Queen I would turn it down as I don't crave her recognition, I'm happy with having the respect of those I care about
 foxyladyuk

Joined: 3/15/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 11:48:56 AM
It is a catch 22 situation. I would not consider myself a royalist and I refuse to curtsey to any person who through genetic luck sits on a throne. But what is the alternative? the American system?...no thanks !
 baviaans kloof

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 11:54:58 AM

I will say this..... if I was offered an honour from the Queen I would turn it down as I don't crave her recognition, I'm happy with having the respect of those I care about


aawwwww bless ya lil heart. thats lovely. the queen will be gutted!
 angeldelight19

Joined: 7/11/2007
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Posted: 6/13/2008 12:06:28 PM
Well I'm proud to be British and I'm happy contributing a portion of my wages to the Royals,
God save the Queen
 rasputing

Joined: 2/7/2007
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Posted: 6/13/2008 12:18:30 PM
welkl my namesake got blamed for getting the tzar out but looked what happened there and we did get rid of the royals once remember cromwell and looked atthe mess he made it took a king from holland top sort out that mess yes i keep the queen but i wish she would storm parliment and get rid of all party leaders and put young blood instead and i for one that we pulled out of europe what have they ever done for us
we had was with all of them i would not trust germans ever i would close the channel tunnel that would be first job i do we are now open for take over Ireland voted no to have to give up soverenty dont care if i cant bloody spell either i would listern to the people no matter what shin creed i would also bring back hanging there is no deterrant
 gladitssummer

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Posted: 6/13/2008 1:51:46 PM
keep them! there are lots of arguments against and some very justified ones, however I think they are worth the money they get paid for the relationships they maintain with other nations and the benefit this is to the UK. they are part of British culture and although some may argue we dont actually have a culture ( I think we do) the UK would be a culturally poorer place without them, the British culture is already under attack and being watered down as we speak, fight tooth and nail I say.
 Ross PK

Joined: 3/4/2007
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Should Britain scrap the royals?
Posted: 6/13/2008 1:55:14 PM

The United nations have said in a report that the UK must consider whether we should keep them, seemily we pay 62p a year in taxes to keep them... Would you prefer to live in a republician state?

Discuss


What I'd like to know is why don't we have a King and Queen, I mean, the Queen has a husband. Or can you not have a King and Queen at the same time? O_o
 Kath111

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 2:00:30 PM
As far as i am aware if the king is in power then whoever he marries will become queen but if it is a queen that is in power then her husband becomes the significant other?.
 bootielicious

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Posted: 6/13/2008 2:02:11 PM
Not all change is good. We have had many radical changes in the last 20 years and what has happened? We don't have enough housing, we can't get decent transport, schools are under funded and we are getting lower and lower in the league tables or results with the rest of Europe and we seem to need 42 days + to work out if someone is a terrorist or not. We can't say anything for worry of not being 'pc' and barely anyone has any surpless income any more.

Surely some things are worth keeping? I personally have respect for the Queen and think she is a good example of how people should behaviour. While she is Queen I am happy to keep things as they are. Should things change, it may be up for review, but even with my reservations towards Charles I think for the sake of relations with other Countries etc, he is worth the 62p a year.
 angeldelight19

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Posted: 6/13/2008 2:02:47 PM
Ross you can only have a King and Queen when the King is the Heir to the throne and then his wife would be Queen, but a Queen can only have a prince as her husband as a King out ranks a Queen so it's not allowed......hope that makes sense

Damn it Kath you beat me to it again lol
 Macforty

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Posted: 6/13/2008 2:06:54 PM
So are you saying that David Furnish is a prince because Elton John is the Queen ?
 Ross PK

Joined: 3/4/2007
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Should Britain scrap the royals?
Posted: 6/13/2008 2:12:25 PM

Ross you can only have a King and Queen when the King is the Heir to the throne and then his wife would be Queen, but a Queen can only have a prince as her husband as a King out ranks a Queen so it's not allowed......hope that makes sense

Damn it Kath you beat me to it again lol


Thanks angeldelight.

Hmmm, strange rules.
 angeldelight19

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Posted: 6/13/2008 2:17:56 PM
Mac
I think it's safe to assume that Elton was born to be a Queen, therefore David would be a prince but maybe in this scenario he should be known as 'Queens Consort'

BTW nice new pic
 CharleysAunt

Joined: 5/28/2008
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Should Britain scrap the royals?
Posted: 6/13/2008 2:18:52 PM
We need Prince Phillip to remind the rest of the world how tolerant and foreigner friendly we are!

I like that photo of Mac in his prison uniform.

Sure you were on our wing in Parkhurst.
 Talk4England

Joined: 1/16/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 2:57:18 PM
Ross you can only have a King and Queen when the King is the Heir to the throne and then his wife would be Queen, but a Queen can only have a prince as her husband as a King out ranks a Queen so it's not allowed......hope that makes sense

Damn it Kath you beat me to it again lol


Thanks angeldelight.

Hmmm, strange rules.


Not true - what about William & Mary - she was Queen from her Dad the disposed REAL king. William was actually also her cousin , his (James) nephew. He was King when she was Queen.
They make their own strange rules. Very Little British about most of our monarchy. All Johnny foreigner and we fall for it cause we're basically brown noses at heart and all love to aspire to be toffs.
Waste of time. No political power at all. Cost far too much for nothing . And all those stupid hangers on. Do very little for our economics - its a myth. You don't have to be a monarchist to be British - another myth. Where is Cromwell when you need him?
 Papa Lazarou

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Posted: 6/13/2008 2:59:23 PM
Where would all the Chavs' be without the cheap and 24 pack of Royals? lol

Thomas Cromwell maybe dead and buried - But I believe in the history of Great Britain and the Empire. Forever England and god save the Queen.

Papa Lazarou
 afx777

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Posted: 6/13/2008 3:08:14 PM
I used to be anti-royal a few years back but I'm beginning to respect and appreciate the efforts they do for certain charities, ok yes they could do a lot more no doubt.

Also, I think Prince William & Harry have been vitally important in reviving the popularity of the monarchy in the UK.
 ~Hams~

Joined: 5/2/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 3:55:56 PM
I think the United nations should keep their noses out of this countries business...

Who are they to be commenting anyway on if we should have a royal family or not!!

This is coming from an organization who is doing nothing while hundreds of people
are being beaten and starved to death in Zimbabwe for voting for the opposition!!

What do you think OP as you asked the question but didn't give us an opinion?

I will guess that most Scots on here want independence from the UK and are anti royal...
 fugue

Joined: 5/7/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2008 4:33:22 PM
Indeed, why do we let 6% of the population control the other 94%.?

in our whole lives why are we so passive to this overall control of us.?

Are you happy with that.?
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