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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/15/2008 9:37:32 PM | Ok, as if it is not bad enough news, to find out ealier, that one of Bombers al time great linebackers, Tyron Jones had dies from brain canser at the age of 46.
However, HOWEVER, realsing longtime Bomber veteran, punter/field goal kicker Troy Westwood??????????????????????
Ya sure, Troy has had his off times, no quetion of that, however, thre were many times that Troy came through when Bombers needed him the most.
And NOW, they just gave him a huge kick in the head.
I just HOPE, that this does NOT, comeback to haunt Bombers in the playoffs, and when they make it to the Grey Cup, should the winning points for Bombers comes from a field goal, that should the new field goal kicker MISS the winning field goal, that would of easily be NAIL by Troy.
So, what are your thoughts of Troy Westwood being released, is Doug Barry and Brendan Taman making a big mistake, by letting a good old veteran like Troy go, or not.
I can tell you mine, I think that it is ONE HUGE mistake.
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/15/2008 9:49:51 PM | I think you are jumpin the gun !
Next Exhibition Game is Thursday June 19....we will see who is kickin then. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/15/2008 10:12:26 PM | I think troy hasnt kicked well enough for the past 3 years. The only question is...do we have anything better?
it doesnt look like it right now so...mistake businesswise but good for troy if he wants(is wanted) to join another team | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/15/2008 10:19:02 PM | | Yeah he's been struggling in the past few years, however I'm not sure it's the smartest move on their part. Like Doc said...they don't have anything better right now. I hope he gets picked up by another team...I'm not so sure he's done with the game yet. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/15/2008 10:19:44 PM | I'd 'heard' that one of the place kickers they were talking to and trying to bring in would not come if Troy were still around. 'They' didn't think that they'd be here for anything other than someone to get Troy into game shape...
... and after last year I could kind of see their point.
So, by the release the Bombers wanted to show that they are serious about the kicking position truely being open. So we'll see a couple of names coming in that are familiar anyway.
I really don't think that you'll see anyone who is here right now doing the kicking when the season starts.
JMHO | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/15/2008 11:06:52 PM | yeah they want to bring in duncan o'mahoney or whatever his name is and he didnt cut it in bc ,then had a little mini meltdown (great,a kicker with emotional issues) here in winnipeg where he didnt even show up and then he got cut by last place edmonton.
kinda sounds like the guy who wouldnt show up if troy was around | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/16/2008 6:40:46 AM | Ok my Media informant took a lonnnnng break and I had to read it in the newspaper to believe it.
Well I was probably speaking esoterically since Trot appeared to live on a higher plane than most of the rest of us.
As a Rider fan..it begs me to say ...Yay!! He deserves to pummeled for his disparaging remarks about banjos.
As a Bomber fan too....I will take bets on him returning part way through the season.
Also as a Bomber fan....this is a year is the Bombers Year! They better not do anything to screw up their mojo...if anyone sees troy heading over to see a Medicine Man....Stop Him!! | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/16/2008 8:40:57 AM | For years, Bombers have releid on their Punter to get them out of tough situations, when at times, the offence were not firing on ALL 8 cyliners, and Troy has done that, now with Troy gone, who are they going to rely on, bringing Bob Cameron out of retirement? I don't thnk so, so, Bombers don't have ANYONE, that they can rely upon.
*As a Bomber fan too....I will take bets on him returning part way through the season.*
Ya know, tempt your kharma, that would not surprise me the least little bit, and you are probably right on wth that. if it does happen, that Troy returns I HOPE that Troy makes the decision makers EAT COW.
By turning out to be the super star punter/field goal kicker that Troy is, that Bombers SHOULD of kept, instead of punting him away.
Ya sure, ya can argue that Troy has struggled, but, BUT, when it comes down to the bottom line that the Managers are always barking and looking for, Troy was there in the end to pull Bombers through, when they needed him the most.
And Troy proved that, last year in the Grey Cup., even tho Bombers did not win, and the Bombers offence strugled, Troy came to the rescue to dig Bombers out of trouble, by punting thos boooooooooooooooooooooming punts that he is known for.
It will be very interesting to see how well Bombers manage without Troy this year, and when it gets into those tight 3rd and 10 situations, of what Doug Barry will do, when he does not have a punter like Troy, to boot the bal away. Doug Barry had BETTER have one heck of a good defense, that can hold the opposition deep in their own side of the field, then.
Because, if he des not, then he IS, ging to need a punter that can kick deep, and if he does not have a punter that can do that, to replace Troy with, then ya, ya can count on Troy possibly coming back.
Further more, in the game against Hamilton, when Troy booted the ball deep in the oppositions endzone, Doug Barry got peeved with Troy because, what, he did not kick the ball to trap the opposition down near their goaline. Like give me a break jake.
When ya can boot the ball deep, like Troy did, and then have your teammates get the heck down field, to trap the opposition in their endzone, so that ya can get 2 points out of it.
Wouldn't ya rather have that, then startng at the oppositions 1 yardline, without any points?
Like REALLY, coach.
The only draw back to getting the 2 points is, that the opposition then starts out on their 35 yardline, rather then their 1 yardline, without any points.
But, BUT, that is why ya have a defense for crying out loud, is it not.
Nope, it was a bad, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad move to let Troy go, and I am sure that will prove evident, shoud Bombers not get a good punter/field goal kicker such as Troy.
And if ya looked at todays Winnipeg Sun, even the old timer, Bob Cameron was their in support of Troy.
Goes to show you, how well, and how much support Troy got from ALL of his teammaes that he has played with, for so long.
It kind of makes me think of a song for Troy of, "Whatcha Goinna Do When I'm Gone, Whatcha Goinna Do, Whatcha Goinna Do When I'm Gone, Gone, Gone. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/16/2008 1:44:07 PM | We have a professional football team?
Yes, Bombers are, but, BUT, without a decent punter/ field goal kicker, what is coach Doug Barry going to do, if Bombers find themseles in a 3rd down and long, to go. Barry had BETTER, have a good punter out there that can get Bombers out of their own end of the field, and deep in the opositions end.
Because, if Barry does not, then he had better have a strong, solid defence, and backfield that can STOP the opposition offense COLD in their tracks.
Or else, it will be a loooooooooooooooooooong day, for Bombers, in winning the football game.
NOPE, I still think that it was a major mistake, by Barry and Taman. And also, if any of you had seen the video, of Taman, saying that Dave Ritchie, back then saying so Taman that Troy should go, all because, they did not win the Grey Cup?
HUH, thank heave Bombers got rid of Dave Ritchie, before too long, because how much has Dave Ritchie done for the Lions, lately?
Noooooooooooooot, much.
I will say that Bombers have got a far, FAR better Management System, then the Lions will ever have, because, I live out here, near Vancouver, and I have read all about, and seen how the Lions Management System works, and ya better thank your lucky stars that ya don't have a Management System with Bombers, as they do for a Management System with the Lions. However tho, Bombers letting Troy go, ahhhh, naaaa, bad move. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/16/2008 5:22:07 PM | Wow, 19 years, thats long in sports. m
Maybe they can see what the fans can't.....or won't?
When do we get an NFL team here? | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/16/2008 5:45:34 PM | Heard him on the radio this morning and he was saying that being let go was better for him then quitting the bombers. I think like everything else, one may get tired of the same old, same old. I mean there are new guys coming in all the time. You just have to go with the flow....maybe he was getting tired of being in Winnipeg. Maybe he needs a new city to look at with new players to work with????? Who knows?
I think a change is as good as the rest. A new coach may just be what he needs to get his game back.
 These are the opinions of the fore-writer, and do not reflect on the rest of the pond.
 
Take care all and good luck to Troy in whatever he does.....and he said he is not done with the game yet, and was looking forward to working with another team. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/16/2008 8:43:50 PM | HUH, thank heave Bombers got rid of Dave Ritchie, before too long, because how much has Dave Ritchie done for the Lions, lately?
ummm they were first in the cfl last year ,closest team was 5 points back.he has since retired
troy played 17 years not 19
no way he returns
i'll take that bet anyday | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/16/2008 10:05:52 PM | When do we get an NFL team here?
Thorndyke, I think that the NFL is better off left where it is, insead of having the Buffalo Bills moving up to Canada, as thought of before, and Chris, The Boomer, from ESPN, said himself at a Bombers training camp, that the NFL has no business of moving up here.
Heard him on the radio this morning and he was saying that being let go was better for him then quitting the bombers.
Hun_Nee, glad that you got a chance to hear Troy on the radio this morning, and ya know, it was a lot metter to be let go, instead of quitting, because, Troy, even tho he has left his options open to be picked up by another CFL team, he won't go, because, Troy has too much Blue Blood in him, and he is faithful to his own ball club, the Bombers to go someplace else.
So by Troy being let go, he can NOW, joing the ranks of two other Bomber greats that we know about, and that is Bob Cameron, and Trevor Kennard.
I ask that ALL of you, try to remember Troy for the great guy that he, and the good memories that we all have of him, rather then some of his misfortunes.
Despite that, when ever Bombers needed Troy to come through for them in a tough situation, Troy was always there for his Bombers, when they needed him the most, and Troy came through with flying colors, so try and remember Troy fr ALL the good that he is, and did for Bombers.
In fact, I had read in todays, Winnipeg Free Press, the remarkable story, and complements that Randy Turner made on Troy's behalf. If you can get your hands on todays Winnipeg Free Press, read Randy Turner's sport report on Troy, I thought that Randy did an excellent job of it, so, Troy has made a lot of good friends with his community, you you people as his devoted, and loyal Bomber Fans.
Even tho, I live out here in BC, and have for the last over 30 years, and coming from Manitoba orginally, Bombers ARE, still my favorite team in the CFL, and NOT, the Lions.
And talking about the Lions!
How much has Dave Ritchie done for the Lions, lately?
Funny that you bring that up, DocRock13.
To answer that correctly, of what has Dave Ritchie done for the whoooooooooooo, the Lions ya say. Ritchie has done nothing but sweet" b" all, that is why him and Buono make a great pair, and great friends.
Thata why I say, even tho Troy was let go, your Bombers Management System, is by far, probably the best Management System in the CFL, and far batter then the Lions Management System.
Oh, man, you wouldn't beleive some fo the crap that the Lions Management System has done out here.
All of you know what happened with Printers, when the Lions decided to keep,
Double D, ya know that story, and now, that Printers is back up here, Lions now, have let Double D go, who is now in Calgary, and now, guess what, Lions have got QB, but, BUT, not that great, why do you think that the Riders slaughtered the living crap out of Lions in the last pre-season.
Anyhow, getting back on topic here, Troy IS a great guy,, and one HECK of a GREAT football player, that you had for 17 years, so try and remember him for that, ok.
Passaglia for the Lions, lasted about 16, and since then, they have had
Mark McClachlan for a few years now, but, in between him and Lui, there was some kickers that would come and go.
So, it will be really interesting to see how Lions turn out this year, but, BT, the Riders look like they could have a stong team once again this year, so, ya never know, it maybe Bombers and Riders in the Grey Cup this year.
As for the Eskimos, WOW, they need some major help it looks like, because, the Stanps really put an number on the Eskies.
So, it will be an interesting year of football, for sure, however tho, GO BOMBERS GO, bring that Cup on home with ya, in 2008, baaaaaaaby. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/16/2008 10:58:33 PM | Troy Westwood was simply a case of an athlete hanging on too long. No one wants to have to cut a longstanding player, but sometimes there is no choice and this is one of those cases. Did he have a great career? Yes. Was he a good guy? Never met him, but a lot of people seem to say yes.
He had lost both leg strength and accuracy over these past few seasons. Check the statistics, you will see that he had the lowest field goal percentage of all regular kickers last year and the year before that. I don't know for the year before that because the CFL website has a glitch with their 2005 kicking stats. It wasn't a case of him trying longer field goals than the other kickers, he only tried one from over 50 yards....and missed. He only made two field goals from over 40 yards last year, missing 12. That is far worse than any other regular kicker in the league. His longest field goal made last season was 42 yards. That is simply not good enough for a pro kicker.
You combine declining accuracy with advancing age and you are faced with release. That is simply a cruel reality of professional sports.
As for his punting, he had some moments last season. However, there seems to be a feeling that he lost a lot of leg strength by the time this year's training camp rolled around. I never watched training camp, so I can't comment.
As for an earlier post about two points for a punt into the end zone, that is wrong. It is only one point. Most teams would prefer to give up the single point to gain the field position. Most teams consider it a better strategy to pin the other team deep and have their defence hold. That can result in already being in field goal position when you get the ball back. Directional kicking is less in the CFL than in the NFL due to the rules in kicking out of bounds depending on the placement on the field. However, there is still a role for it when trying to pin a team around their goal line. Think about it, if you can pin a team inside their own 5 yard line and subsequently sack the QB...two point safety and get the ball back. Well, that is the hope. *L*
As for Lui Passaglia, he played 25 years for B.C., not 16. He retired after winning the Grey Cup.
Kickers come and go in pro football. Whether the current kicker is the guy who ultimately wins the job or someone else remains to be seen. He may or may not have an outstanding year, but even if he has a less than stellar year, I am not so sure that it will be much worse than Westwood would have provided this year. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 6:31:50 AM | Troy Westwood was an inconsistent player who didn't come through when his team needed/counted on him.
He said in an interview the other day that he should have been evaluated on the last three games of the previous season. C'mon Troy. You play the game from June to November, why should we only evaluate you on the last three games? You think a high school kid can screw around all year at school and then get graded on his final exam only?
Sorry to say, but Troy's "passing" has been a long time coming. As a player, not as a person. As a fan of the team, I won't miss the player. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 7:16:13 AM | Well, at least we remember Troy for the good years, that he did have, and he DID have some good years, however, tho, Troy can now rest assure that he joins the ranks of a couple of the other Bomber greats such as, Bob Cameron, and Trevor Kennard.
Yaaaa, I guess I suppose it was time for Troy to hang it up, and retire, but, BUT, at least he had a great career tho, along with other Bomber greats.
But, BUT, Barry, and Taman had better find a good punter/field goal kicker, much like Bob Cameron, Trevor Kennard, and, AND, Troy Westwood.
Because, if hteir offense ever, EVER find themselves in a 3rd and loooooooooog, situation, they HAD beeter have a punter that can get them out of their own end of the field, and deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep, in the oppositions end of the field, or else, suffer the consequences of the opposition scoring on them.
You all know the deal, if you don't get that ball way down field, deep in the oppositions end of the field. The opposition then only has a short distance to get back and score on you. And that can, and WILL happen if you are not carefl, and too many times like that, and they, the opposition will put the game out of reach on ya. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 7:32:03 AM | Well, well now, just picked up on the word, that Bombers have just signed a veteran and a Canadian punter named by Duncan O’Mahony Monday.
This SHOULD, and WILL be intersting, lets see how long HE, will last.
The kind of guy, that they really need, SINCE they have decided to replace Troy, is a guy like Mark McLachlan, instead of messing around with a guy like Duncan O’Mahony. And guess what, Mark McLachlan, is A Manitoba native, much like Troy is.
Time for Bombers to get SERIOUS NOW, if they want a good punter, and field goal kicker, instead of messing around with a guy like Duncan O’Mahony. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 8:09:48 AM | ACTUALLY, most great kickers come out of Saskatchewan.
I suspect it has to do their practice of 'kicking manitoba ass'. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 11:27:13 AM | | inconsistency has lost them some good chances......spell inconsistency - t-r-o-y-w-e-s-t-w-o-o-d. Get a pro in there with less to say and more ability. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 12:14:33 PM | It sure sounds like there are som pretty bit fans in here to Troy Westwood.
Have we ALL forgotten a lot of the good things that Troy has done for Bombers, or are we so focused on ALL the bad things that Troy has done, and so blinded by those things that WE cannot see the good things that he has done.
Like good lord, I was watching a youtube video clip, of Bombers vs the Riders in 1995, Bombers were setup for a field goal, the ball was snapped to Bob Camerson, and Bob, fakes it, and just passed the ball back to Troy, to catch the ball and run it into the enzone for a TD.
The guy has done a remarkable job over the 17 years of his career with Bombers, DESPITE his shortcomings, and the newspaper editors, of BOT the SUN, and the FREE PRESS, have given Troy a good amount of praise fr what he has done.
Ya mean to say that, YOU, the Bomber Fans cannot at LEAST, do the same forTroy as well.
That ya have to find fault with Troy, for everything he does, when in essence, Troy has done a lot of good for Bombers as well.
What a way, to remember Troy by, at least appreciate what TROY HAS done, instead of what he has not.
We ALL make mistakes in out live, NO ONE is perfect, and nor is he, but, BUT, I ask YOU, do YOU, think you could handle what Troy has gone through, well, DO YOU, some food for thought, is it not.
Just remember that next time, when ya have something to sa about Troy, and this is not, JUST anoter BCer spouting off, I also came from back there, I was born, raised, and lived in Manitoba for at least 20 years of my life, SO, I know what it is like to be a full core Bombers Fan.
And Troy was, and IS, still one, because, HE, bled BLUE, un-like some of these guys that come to play for Bombers, that are there for ONLY themselves.
Also, Bombers have got probably the best Management System, in the entire CFL, with one of them, being a former Bomber player himself, of Lyle Bauer, who on purposely came back, to help save OUR Bombers, from folding, like most other teams in the CFL, Like Montreal and Ottawa, and almost Toronto to mentions.
SO why did Lyle Bauer come back in the first place, because the guy cared enough about his former team to SAVE them. And now, you are looking at a brane new, state of the art, new stadium. Sure, the plans are in the making, however, at least David Asper put the whels in motion the get a new stadium built in Winnipeg, all because, he cared enough about the team. Sure, it is also to make some money, but, at the same time, to give OUR Bombers a brand new home, and for you fans to have a nice new stadium to go to, to watch OUR Bombers play.
NO ONE, cold save the Jets, as hard as ya tried, BU, Bombers have been saved, and could you imagine what the CFL would be like without Bombers, another one to think about.
So, for heaven sakes, give Troy Westwood the break that he deserves, for crying out loud, and give Troy the credit that he rightfully deserves, much like your sports reporters have, instead of critizing Troy, ALL the D A M N time. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 12:31:30 PM | I've never been a Westwood fan nor will I become now that he's gone. So please stop telling me how I should feel about his contribution to the team. Who gives a rats a s s about what he did in 1995? This is 2008 and we need a good player in his position and he's not going to be the one to fill it. Everyone has their time and sometimes that time comes up.
I've been to many a Bomber game and watched that man f*ck up field goals that should have been no problem for an athelete of his apparent calibre. He was inconsistent. Simple as that. To have a winning team you need consistency and that is NOT Troy Westwood. He's being judged on his current perfomance, not on his personality. Alright? | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 1:02:59 PM | Well, I am sorry to hear that you people feel that way about Troy, however, the impression that I have gotten from the sports media from BOTH the Sn and te Free Press, sure don't, and it is unfortunate, that ya can ONLY drown the poor guy, for the things that he has done wrong, instead of what Troy has done right.
Ya, sure he has had his time, but, BUT I ask, is that any reason to drown the guy, I should hope not.
So, if you feel that you have to fine, but, just remember the good that he has done as well as the bad. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/17/2008 1:33:19 PM | Who said I was drowning the guy?
I just said that I wouldn't miss him and that the team needs consistency. I didn't attack him or his personality. Perhaps you're taking this far more personally than Troy is?
You don't have to like everyone on the team. I've NEVER been a Westwood fan. EVER! Seeing him go does not make me upset in any way, shape or form. What he does for the team in a positive way is no concern of mine. How is inconsistency affects game scores and advantages does. | |
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