| The Dark Traits of *BAD* people
Posted: 6/17/2008 10:16:46 PM | I have been doing a bit of research in the last 3 months on the mating traits of various people, as I have been counselling some women over the relationships they have been in, and surprisingly what I have discovered about most of the people I looked at and watched their *one track* specialties..... but i also found that a university in the United States has been doing the same research, with much better results .. so I will share that here, only the head lines though.
Bad People the dark side
Bad People really do get the *goal*, according to new research.
This week's New Scientist says two studies in the US have found that people with antisocial personality traits are more likely to have a prolific sex life.
The so-called `dark triad' traits include impulsiveness, narcissism, thrill-seeking and deceitfulness, it said.
One of the studies, a survey of 35,000 people in 57 countries, found a clear link between dark triad traits and the reproductive success of some people.
"It is universal across cultures for high dark triad scorers to be more active in short-term mating," David Schmitt, of Bradley University in the United States, told the New Scientist.
"They are more likely to try and poach other people's partners for a brief affair."
Another study found that some people who scored higher in the dark triad personality traits had a greater number of partners and a desire for short relationships.
Now it further stated that the male of the species was the main subject of the study, but I have seen the same type of thing in women.... your thoughts on the subject would be interesting, as both sexes have those types of traits...
And it might also give people on this site a better understanding of why people are only on this site for a very short time , and leave their testimoanials when they found what they were looking for, or were found out by their peers!
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| The Dark Traits of *BAD* people
Posted: 6/17/2008 11:25:03 PM |
impulsiveness, narcissism, thrill-seeking and deceitfulness
I cannot find a reference to 'triad' that does not imply 'three'. You have four traits listed as the 'dark triad'.
What is seen by many as impulsiveness can be quick decision making processes and decisiveness. What is seen as narcissism can be confidence and assertiveness. What on earth is wrong with 'thrill-seeking'?
This to me sounds like a 'nice guy' thread in disguise. If someone is decisive, confident, assertive and likes a bit of adventure, of course they are going to have better success in the reproduction arena. Jealousy and the 'tall poppy syndrome' would lead to the inferior people trying to cut them down by adding the 'deceictfullness' trait to the 'triad'.
I conclude therefore that 'nice guys' are still the weak people they were last week. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 12:12:17 AM | interesting study...hehehe ...wouldnt it come down to definitions and whose definitions of what is deemed BAD....to some parts of society being single and bonking ya brains out could be percieved as bad by some and lucky by others...in some cultures having more then one wife is considered ok yet in others is considered bad(i kinda lean on the bad cos ya would always be in the shite with multiple wives...hahaha)
I wonder what their guidline for their definition of being bad really is...To some people the mere fact of beloning to a dating site could also be considered bad or any other online site for that matter. as could open marriages, bdsm, driving a ford(lol)..
Now does being bad male or female mean getting laid more hmmmm... I have known a few ladies that were real good at being bad hahaha and it seems that the badgirl/badboy look does attract some people on both sides, so i suppose if ya compare the person who is morally comfortable in having casual relationships against the religious one who will only sleep with their eventual marital partner i suppose it would mean yes...I wouldnt say that either person is bad though...
Not sure why a uni would have to do a study on it cos i think it might be a no-brainer....and no op thats not a comment in respect to your own intelligence (before it gets taken the wrong way and i get jumped on...lol)
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:02:28 AM | The article OP quoted is a ninemsn news report and them quoting other sources
Actually there are three integral parts to this personality type. (Your quite right with the triad 3 connection.)
They tend to be offensive or quite inappropriate yet not pathological personalities , three are especially prominent: Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy both these last are subclinical.
for those who dont know what that is.. heres a way brief outline.
Machiavellianism – people who deceive and manipulate others for their own gain or benefit.. interestingly as a side point and one that does amuse my sense of irony Machiavellianism Intellegence is also called Social Intellegince and Political Intelligence. !
whose bad ask Michael Jackson | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:03:05 AM |
who here hasn't at some time in their life exhibited all those signs
impulsiveness
narcissism
thrill-seeking
deceitfulness
must update my phobia diagnosis.
And the scars i receive from impulsive thrill-seeking make good for telling cool camp fire storys which then enhances my self worth, and I cant let the truth get in the way of a good story.
(stands accused of the triad thingy except for the getting laid often)
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:33:45 AM | Oh no I can't believe it, I agree with crazytimes
Apart from deceitfulness all the others seem fine to me. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:47:04 AM | Men will tend to have the diagnosis: Anti-social personality disorder.
Women at the high end of risk-taking, attention-seeking or promiscuous traits, plus others, tend to attract the labels: Borderline or Histrionic personality disorder.
Sucessfully functioning in society (called high-functioning) with any one of these personality disorders requires a high degree of deceitfulness and manipulation of others. These characteristics will result in many short term relationships, with the rate of success (of luring more victims) governed by the skill level of deceipt, manipulation and charisma.
All nice types though. The percentage among prison populations is very high. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 2:08:43 AM | narcisism isn't really confidence because narcissistic people do not have a good track record with being able to cop things on the chin as they take responsibilty for nothing and it is everyone elses fault. It is a sign of weakness as it is the truely brave who make themselves vulnerable.
Impulsiveness is not quick decision making skills........it is act now think later skills. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 2:35:33 AM |
narcissism, and psychopathy both these last are subclinical.
Not sure what reference your quoting but Psychopathy is definately not subclinical.
Hares PCL R20 is the psychopathy checklist that psychiatrists use to assist in diagnosing whether someone is a true psychopath or someone who has a personality disorder with distinctive anti social and narcissitic personality traits.
Interestingly women tend to be borderline personality disorders and men the personality disorders and neither of these can be given as a true diagnosis unless there was a childhood diagnosis of conduct disorder.
When ppl say they are narcissitic or anti social it is often in brief spurts not constant ongoing ingrained behaviour ... everyone has the traits its just how they choose to act on them.
Wicked I guess your talking about the sociopath who uses ppl to meet their needs and on the surface appears to be providing everything the victim of their desires needs and wants. And when they get caught its woe is me everyone feel sorry for me I am such a worthless person dunno why I keep doing x y z... ~yawn~ so over these ppl lol
SBBW
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Posted: 6/18/2008 4:39:53 AM | Okay let the Goddess have a say ehm ehm (rolling my sleeves up)
First of all I suffer from 2 of those traits
impulsiveness >>> when I go shopping that's it...and if I want something again that's it my ex husband used to call me spoilt but I am not
thrill-seeking >>> no bungie jumping but I will go to help a friend to snoop on her husband or something like so interesting....
I can't see anyting wrong with either of these 2 traits but I suppose it will help a deceitful narcissist get up to multiple disaster.
Also a narcissist is not so confidence he/she is just mesmerised and blinded by how good they are, actually people like that have no confidence at all and need others reassurance at all times. and once a person finds their weakness it's very easy to play them.
but going back to the subject and on track As the young poster above me mentioned what is covered in Op's post is actually dead obvious...I am not going to be rude and mention who but I once knew a man who was very similar but somehow he endured a long prison sentence with me well you see as much as they are like that which somehow I believe it goes back to what went on in their life they are seriously nice people but Sofa King confused.
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Posted: 6/18/2008 4:56:09 AM |
This week's New Scientist says two studies in the US have found that people with antisocial personality traits are more likely to have a prolific sex life.
Now it further stated that the male of the species was the main subject of the study,
Funny I was just reading the 'Gordon Ramsey' ( who obviously fits the bill) and someone pointed out that the women posters like him and us men don't | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 9:58:26 AM |
people with antisocial personality traits are more likely to have a prolific sex life
Definitely, definitely (profanity) untrue.
Funny I was just reading the 'Gordon Ramsey' ......... women posters like him and us men don't
Oooh, oooh, oooh! You horrid male thingies you. Personally I like my men wellbuilt, abusive, domineering, scarred....... and as for rich....... well, that too holds a certain attraction. Personally I think he is sooo sexy. I want him. I don't care if he is married, so there . Besides........ I don't mind sharing.
Of course the blasphemy is all rubbish for the cameras, but surely no better or worse than Billy Connelly's shows. Such a level of profanity would be distasteful in virtually any setting other than that of mass entertainment. I think his shows are quite entertaining although almost at the end of their 'use by date'.
Go Gordon go.
Seem to recall reading something about the life and times of a very famous person a few years ago. Kind, gentle, caring. Beloved by children. A magnet to animals. Charming, considerate, concerned. Generous of his time and intellect, often compassionate. He was such a nice person in fact that he became revered and idolised by an entire nation. Course like all all of us he did have one or two rather obvious faults, did Adolf Hitler.
Bad people so often don't have bad traits, which is exactly what makes them so bl00dy hard to spot. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 12:01:58 PM | Bad boys, bad boys, What ya gonna do? What ya gonna do when we come for you?
Sorry
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| The Dark Traits of *BAD* people
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:25:46 PM | Oooh, oooh, oooh! You horrid male thingies you. Personally I like my men wellbuilt, abusive, domineering, scarred....... and as for rich....... well, that too holds a certain attraction. Personally I think he is sooo sexy. I want him. I don't care if he is married, so there. Besides........ I don't mind sharing.
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umm,,....
This a heterosexual dating site, not a gay or bisexual dating site.
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Posted: 6/18/2008 4:13:12 PM | Sorry... I cant help myself....
Insert heavy breathing
'Come to the darkside Luke.... I am your father'
The big question is.... Was Darth Vader the first real bad/dark side boy. Not that I like Darth Vader.. but if all the ppl on the 'dark side' are having so much fun.... I wanna play too!!!  | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 9:27:30 PM |
but if all the ppl on the 'dark side' are having so much fun.... I wanna play too!!!
Sorry no playing here..just opinions and ideas, tell us what you know, NO playing, this is a thread not a playground | |
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| The Dark Traits of *BAD* people
Posted: 6/18/2008 11:55:19 PM |
This week's New Scientist says two studies in the US have found that people with antisocial personality traits are more likely to have a prolific sex life.
I wonder if the people who did these studies aren't getting any, and maybe just wanted to have a dig at those who are? Ain't it usually the way... | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 12:06:29 AM | | shell 225.. I think the first real darkside bad a$$ dude was Eve and Adams old mate Mr Snake.. Isnt that right lordy god.. he lured pure innocent Eve with his lies and deceptive tongue. Isssss it really ssssssoooo? | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 1:18:26 AM | | If someone has these personality traits then is it likely that most of them are talking rubbish and therefore we can discount most of the results......how much of what these people say can we count on? how much of what is said just to make themselves look less miserable?.......just a thought....... | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 1:24:44 AM | Have to post this in this thread..posted it in another earlier..its great, funny as..
has all sorts of line personality traits and some people are definately more than one.. lol
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/cybersisters.htm | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 3:25:50 AM |
he lured pure innocent Eve with his lies and deceptive tongue. Isssss it really ssssssoooo?
Maybe true with some Adams But I've also seen some Eves that know their Adam victim's certain traits and so she will lure him with her deceptive tongue and inviting body, especially when she knows Adam has a healthy bank account...so it seems to be two types of Adam and Eves.... ask not God what he knows ask Goddess what she knows | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 3:37:39 AM | yes he lured eve with his deceptive tongue so eve was the first woman to lay back and go ooohhhh gawdddddd oh god god oh yesssssssss......hahahahahhaa
cheerz all be safe and be well | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 5:01:07 AM | Hmmm, in reply to Crazytimes1 quote "I conclude therefore that 'nice guys' are still the weak people they were last week."
I pose the following: why do so many woman look for 'nice guys' ... That is because they have become a rarity... not because there are none but because they are taken and have reproduced and will stay with their partner!
Are 'bad boys' confident. Nope they just know how to appear that way
Are they impulsive? Yes, not really a good trade over the long term now is it
Are they decisive? Yes, they dont think and pick the first thing that comes to mind!
Are they assertive? Yes, they cannot imagine anything else beside their own.
Ever noticed that it is the bad boys that get jealous in relationships... maybe not so confident! The impulsiveness often end in uncontrolled anger (very decisive in how to handle negative feelings... very assertive but not constructive)
And as far as the adventure goes... they are not really adventurous, you will find that they have the same adventure over and over and over....
No nice guys usually ends first. That is why there are so few available... | |
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