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 Feedback1

Joined: 3/8/2008
Msg: 1
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Posted: 6/18/2008 8:20:44 PM
Some of you may have already heard of the crisis faced by our amphibian friends......if not you should really pay attention......a strange fungus is killing frogs up to 122 species have become extinct over the last 25 years!!! and 427 species are now on the endangered list.....I really am worried for the future.....first butterflies died off like crazy.....(think about it when you were a kid I bet you saw them all time right? look around now.....hardly ever...I live near a park lots of flowers hardly any butterflies or bees for that matter.

Bees hives are failing (no it's not just honey that you should worry about) think global pollination......think food!!! I can't understand are people blind....does no one care anymore?
 OneBlend

Joined: 3/31/2007
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Posted: 6/18/2008 9:59:26 PM

Bees hives are failing (no it's not just honey that you should worry about) think global pollination......think food!!! I can't understand are people blind....does no one care anymore?

Thank you for bring awareness to this plight which could have disasterous effects on us all.
Butterflies, bees, amphibians - disappearances, dying and facing extinction- all are indicators something is going terribly wrong in our environments. There are perhaps many factors contributing to the current extinction crisis. We really can't rule out much considering how we pollute our air , water and soils. Modern technologies I'm sure play a part too. Some even say chemtrails play a part. Whatever the case, the crisis is real.
Bees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2PK9AUr7E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZr9ztQPNXA&feature=related

Amphibians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0O-6HcFEM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baClbjVWn2I

Einstein predicted that if the bees were to die, plants would die, animals would die and then humans would die (within four years).

Canaries in the coal mine ......

On Chemtrails:
http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

Dead Zones:
http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2007/sept/science/rc_hypoxia.html
 TheStefano

Joined: 6/15/2008
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Posted: 6/18/2008 10:02:02 PM
I read today that jellyfish are filling in niches held by fish now that weve pretty much decimated the fish populations and those fellows can be nasty. The warmer waters and lack of fish schools account for it.
 OneBlend

Joined: 3/31/2007
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Posted: 6/18/2008 10:07:17 PM
Makes you wonder how much more this planet can take, doesn't it?
 fissionmission

Joined: 4/17/2008
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Posted: 6/19/2008 5:46:08 AM
Makes you wonder how much more this planet can take doesn't it?

Holly wood but interesting theory the movie "The happening" plants and trees produced poison pollen that made humans kill themselves.Plants have evolved self defense mechanisms (not too far fetched) if the trees need bees to survive and there are no bees what are the possibilities??? fiction yet quite intriguing.
 carneades

Joined: 5/25/2008
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Posted: 6/19/2008 5:50:19 AM
Ok...amphibians go extinct and are replaced by.....?

There have been numerous extinctions in the past...and there will almost certainly many more (including our own) in the future...
And yet the Earth keeps renewing itself....
And will continue to do as such...
 nefarious101

Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2008 6:13:56 AM
Being on the left it seems that you guys above anyone else would realize...everything on the planet evolves. Nature creates...then destroys what isn't working or can't cope.

Here's a news flash...humans aren't going to live forever either. Sometime down the road we will go extinct too, and just like everything else thats died off... and something will replace us.

What are we supposed to do? Freeze evolution? Now that makes sense. That's playing God isn't it?
 Feedback1

Joined: 3/8/2008
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Posted: 6/19/2008 6:22:25 AM
And yet the Earth keeps renewing itself....


And will continue to do as such...

Yes thats how it's supposed to work over that natural course of time.....one creature dies another takes it's place and so on.....however if you cut and burn down the forest faster than what would naturally occur......artificially warm the earth so that creatures have no time to adjust......overfish the ocean so that ALL of it's creatures are gathered in nets and killed instead of targeting only the fish you really want....Now with global warming and pollution even plankton is dying and as it decays depletes the oxygen in sea water and in effect suffocates other forms of marine life....tell me how quickly do yo think earth will renew itself if the basic building block lifeforms are gone?

 Lady with no name

Joined: 5/6/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2008 6:56:59 AM
It really is long past due for man to realize he is part of the food chain. Man seems to have come to the conclusion that he is omnipotent a dangerous assumption that will soon have us all eating solvent green if anyone remembers that.
I've lived on a creek for 18 years, and I have seen a steep decline in the frogs, dragonflies, and other amphibians, and a correlating increase in mosquitoes! West Nile was unheard of when I moved here, but my neighbor contracted it 2 years ago. There will always be scientists who will argue pro and con, but I say it is a fool who doesn't open their own eyes and look around for themselves. Incidences of cancer, asthma, birth defects, and other defects are skyrocketing, the evidence is all around us one only has to open their eyes to see it.

For those who do not know what solvent green is... it's a term from a movie about a future like the one we are headed to. we had killed off everything except ourselves. People didn't know where food came from and didn't want to know, ( do you know what is in your food now?) Old age was illegal and all people were expected on their 40th birthday to come to a special area. They had no concept, or understanding of what death was or that it awaited them there, it was an expectation that they go and they obeyed. Solvent green was meat, human meat produced at these special areas. Science fiction is well known for becoming science fact, lets hope no one we love is around when this one does.
 nefarious101

Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2008 8:27:33 AM

Yes thats how it's supposed to work over that natural course of time.....one creature dies another takes it's place and so on.....however if you cut and burn down the forest faster than what would naturally occur......artificially warm the earth so that creatures have no time to adjust......overfish the ocean so that ALL of it's creatures are gathered in nets and killed instead of targeting only the fish you really want....Now with global warming and pollution even plankton is dying and as it decays depletes the oxygen in sea water and in effect suffocates other forms of marine life....tell me how quickly do yo think earth will renew itself if the basic building block lifeforms are gone?


Evolution of the planet isn't on a natual time clock...natural occuring mass extinction events have been around way before man has. Life on Earth hasn't and never will be subject only to mankind.

Consider this...mankind part of the evolution of life on planet Earth, regardless of what mankind does to itself or to the planet is nothing more than the next step in a long road between the beginning and the end of Earth's cycle of life. To think life on Earth depends on mankind for it's existence is nothing more than crackpot science created by man itself.
 nefarious101

Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2008 10:00:40 AM
Amphibians aren't the only ones that need saving

Hypocrisy is becoming a little hard to bear

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23891826-5000117,00.html

POOR Belle. Here's a polar bear that never got to taste a global warming hypocrite, served fresh.

Oh, I can imagine how Belle's mouth ran to see the welcoming committee of journalists assembled for her this week on the coast of northern Iceland.

She'd have been hungry, of course, having sailed an ice floe over from Greenland and then swum to shore.

And, if she'd read the papers, she might even have expected the reporters before her would be the last to deny her a house-warming snack.

After all, ever since another polar bear had floated to Iceland two weeks earlier, only to be shot dead, the media were cranking out weeping stories of bears suffering in a world made too hot for them by wicked humans.

Bears floating to Iceland "could lend credence to warnings from experts that climate change is creating a more perilous environment for the majestic Arctic animals," wailed an AFP stringer.

These bears belonged to "one of the species most endangered by climate change", sighed a colleague filing for the Scotsman.

"Scientists blame global warming for the disappearance of the sea ice - vital for the bear's survival," sobbed a meaty mate from Associated Press.

And ssshhh. Don't mention that the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre says the extent of Arctic ice is in fact "greater than this time last year".

Don't mention that polar bears are growing in number, not shrinking, and that they have for centuries washed up on Iceland's beaches, with the most recent bobbing up 20 cooler years ago.

And especially don't mention that the world hasn't warmed since 1998.

No, no. Reporters, you see, just want you to really believe your gases are heating the world to Armageddon and will omit any facts that may "confuse".

And now here, in front of a hungry polar bear, were gathered members of this profession that has more than any other preached that vile man is killing nice bears. Naturally, Belle decided to make a meal of the occasion and charged, presuming her greatest defenders would surely not object to providing lunch.

But, alas, you can never trust global warming believers to perform as they preach and Belle was promptly shot dead, perfectly illustrating that what most threatens polar bears isn't warming but hunting.

The police aren't apologising, saying they had "no other choice".

But not so, pointed out readers who rushed the Herald Sun website to protest. "They could have let the bear eat the reporters," said Roger of Scoresby, quite seriously.

It's an option thoroughly endorsed by fellow green believers.

"So an endangered animal was killed to save a stupid group of reporters," sneered Gary of Melbourne.

And that's bad, said Dave Collins, since "the sooner homo sapiens become extinct the better off the rest of the world will be".

Actually, the sooner an Icelandic reporter becomes bear food, the better off the rest of the global warming movement would be.

How short of martyrs is this great new faith. Christ may have volunteered to die on the cross, but global warming prophets can't even volunteer to stop their gassy flying. Heavens, the Age editor can't even turn off his own airconditioners despite writing editorials demanding the rest of us just take cool baths instead.

This is the first great new religion led not by the most pure but the most sinful, with frequent flyer points that would gag a bear. And while Tuvalu resolutely refuses to drown, there's not a human victim anywhere for this no-sweat new creed to feed on.

You may think laying down a life for a bear is too extreme a sacrifice for even the deepest green, but it has been done once before.

Bear expert Tim Treadwell was a technical adviser on the Disney animation Brother Bear, which told of a man turning into a bear and being a nobler, kinder animal for the swap.

An Icelandic reporter couldn't have been more pro-bear, but Treadwell could. He was a Malibu eco-warrior who'd made it his mission "to promote getting close to bears", which for some reason involved cosying up to them to sing "I love you" in falsetto.

Sadly, he eventually struck one that must have been tone deaf, because he became the lunch Belle had counted on, and ended his life as bear scat.

But did he mind as his dining partner munched?

No, said colleague Jewel Palovak: "He would say it's the culmination of his life's work."

I know, I know: do the rest of us really want to sacrifice our lives for mere bears?

Silly question, you might think, but then people like Roger of Scoresby, Gary of Melbourne and Dave Collins are giving alarmingly silly answers.

And those Icelandic journalists keep typing that our gases are killing polar bears, and we must throttle our lifestyles to save them - must sacrifice our lives for bears that lie dead at the feet of their suddenly reluctant dinner.
 Stella Blue

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Posted: 6/19/2008 4:55:45 PM

Being on the left it seems that you guys above anyone else would realize...everything on the planet evolves. Nature creates...then destroys what isn't working or can't cope.

Here's a news flash...humans aren't going to live forever either. Sometime down the road we will go extinct too, and just like everything else thats died off... and something will replace us.

What are we supposed to do? Freeze evolution? Now that makes sense. That's playing God isn't it?


Did a hippy drop you on your head or something?
I swear, you are the worst contrarian I have ever encountered.

This is not evolution. This is mass extinctions being caused by one species, humans! Oh, that's right you think gloabl warming is all some communist hoax or something.

Soylent Green is people!
 nefarious101

Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2008 7:20:50 PM

This is not evolution. This is mass extinctions being caused by one species, humans! Oh, that's right you think gloabl warming is all some communist hoax or something.


Contrarian? Me? I am not! Nope..not me! No way! I completely disagree with that!

Mass extinction could happen with or without people involved. With each mass extinction in the past...did life on Earth recover? At different times the Earth has been molten or frozen...where did life come from?...humans? We had no part in it before we were here and won't after we are gone. Humans might cause the next mass extinction...but do you really think life or Earth would come to a halt and never recover?

No global warming isn't a communist hoax...neither is global cooling. I might lean toward both being a part of a natural cycle. As far as joining the church of the global warming?...I'm just not ready to follow the Rev. algore. In case you haven't noticed...he's sort of a con man.
 printer2

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Posted: 6/19/2008 7:34:34 PM
As long as the atmosphere does not boil away there will be some kind of life on earth.

But you know, I kind of like the range of life we have on earth right now just fine. Why would we want to screw it up?
 nefarious101

Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2008 7:52:08 PM
Sure nuff...the Earth is a neat place and people do screw things up. Trouble is too many people and not enough Earth to go 'round. Nature has a way of thinning the herd...but man has gotten too good at not letting that happen.
 D_lily

Joined: 11/25/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2008 8:08:40 PM
So is this the lastest in the name of enviroment we're killing? Well, why don't we just kill ourselves so the planet can be happy since she is the fairest and without regard of political corruption.

Got to love the earth, no one pulls her chain.
 Enigma252

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 6/19/2008 8:14:39 PM
I have not heard of this to this extent. wow. I use to eat frog legs, too. What planet are we going to move to anyway? Sometimes I'm glad I don't have any kids to leave this mess to.
 OneBlend

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Posted: 6/20/2008 5:03:40 AM

Being on the left it seems that you guys above anyone else would realize...everything on the planet evolves. Nature creates...then destroys what isn't working or can't cope.

Nature is one thing ... man is another.
 trubblemakr

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Posted: 6/20/2008 5:14:06 AM
why don't we just kill ourselves so the planet can be happy
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umm smarty , in killing the animals , we are in turn killing ourselves
bee populations have been decimated
they are dying off
if not for the hardy little bees to pollinate the earths plants, can we accept your resume to pollinate the zillions of plants?
how short sighted can a person be
im no environmentalist but i do believe alot of the animals have been systematically wiped out
all for money, no other reason
without pollination everything green will die off
no more blooms
get it yet?
 childofgodus

Joined: 4/22/2007
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Posted: 6/20/2008 5:40:13 AM
i agree we as humans are creating a place less friendly to our co creatures . i agree we evovle . i haven;t seen any replacement creratures nor have i seem humanity change . if we stay on this road i see oil and money as small problems .
this electoin i see as not much of a change , in fact oil exploration into newly thawed areas is most likely next move . our corals and rain forest still decline . yet we evolve .
tomatoes fresh with desiese and fish gone , replaced with sulfer from rotting . yes it was given to us and we have brains to be top stewards .
the one differnts between animals and human is we can creat , animmals simply excist in the now. today the scientist say our nidwest flooding is global warming at work , so we are getting that nudge to change .
i;d say if you agree with what i;m saying then put up a fuss and maybe we won;t go extinct and can enjoy this earth , this mother that feeds us . this mother that seems to be turning up the heat .
 sparky2491

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Posted: 6/20/2008 6:10:18 AM
Why would we screw it up????

Because we humans are the most self centered, careless, uncooperative species on the planet.
Very few of us know and believe what is actually happening to our planet, nor do the majority care.
I have a farm, I was a beekeeper, I grow fruits and vegetables.
All my bees died mysteriously, along with thousands of other apiaries.
My garden produce has decreased in quality and quantity due to lack of pollination. My pears and grapes no longer bear fruit.
Ask a child where carrots come from and the majority will answer "the store". I have had mature adults come to buy corn on the cob and be surprised that it does not grow underground.
Somehow, some way, the message is not getting across. Earth is a giant space shuttle in orbit and all life support systems are failing, fuel is critical, and the 5 billion passengers are more concerned that the video system is offline than they are with the difficulty breathing.
The question is: WHAT CAN WE DO TO FORCE CHANGE??

Explosives and munitions create harmful gases, armored fighting vehicles burn incredible amounts of fuel as we fight over land that we really have no right to!

If there is life on other planets, and I believe there is, I do hope they are more intelligent and cooperative than we are. Or, perhaps they weren't, and we are the only ones left???

 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 6/20/2008 7:03:45 AM

today the scientist say our nidwest flooding is global warming at work


Flooding was caused by the corrupt politicians stealing the Federal money intended to repair the Levees ....

They didn't use the school buses either....

The levees failed in region's run by Democrats, This ruined farm crops owned by Republican farmers ....

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i agree we evovle . i haven;t seen any replacement creratures nor have i seem humanity change


Frog People...

Humans are evolving ......time to create the Human/Animal hybrid.....

Eating the nasty bugs... 6 foot long tongues.....

Write your congressman and the President ......Lift the ban on human/animal hybrid cloning

Or

Robot bug Vacuums.... like on the infomercials



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The Bee CCD problem is one that should concern EVERYONE. It will have dramatic effects on FOOD.

Like Smoking....... you have to prove something harmful.........

no ban..




CCD killed 36 percent of the nation's bee colonies last winter. In Pennsylvania, where nearly half of the state's colonies were wiped out the previous winter, losses last winter amounted to 26 percent of the state's colonies.....Rick Wills rwills@tribweb.com

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The experience of Canadian beekeepers echoes that of those in the U.S., where 36.1 per cent of the nation's commercially managed hives have been lost since last year, according to a survey commissioned by the Apiary Inspectors of America and released in May......http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/06/10/f-bees-colony-mites.html

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In France, beekeepers have for more than a decade waged a war against the chemical giant Bayer CropScience. They hold responsible the company's bestselling pesticide, imidacloprid, for killing a third of the country's 1.5 million colonies. Bayer is also being blamed by German beekeepers for the eerie silence along the Rhine valley, where the buzzing of bees is a common sound at this time of year. They say two-thirds of honeybees have been killed this month by the pesticide clothianidin, which has been widely applied on sweet corn. As a result of the bee deaths, eight pesticides, including clothianidin, have been temporarily suspended in Germany. Anecdotal evidence of pesticide-related bee deaths in Italy and Holland is also piling up.

European beekeepers accuse scientists and government agencies of being in the pocket of the chemical companies. It's a similar story in the US, where scientists maintain that there is no correlation between the bees' disappearance and pesticide use......http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jun102008/environmet2008060972574.asp

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Honey bees are also in a battle for survival with parasites. Professional beekeepers transport their hives across country – which contributes to the spread of parasites such as varroa.

This leeching mite has virtually destroyed the wild honey bee population. It activates lethal viruses which it carries from bee to bee as it feeds on their blood.

It is like a dirty syringe spreading HIV and is probably causing more damage than foot-and-mouth disease.

But bees, unlike livestock, do not have powerful commercial interests to support them.

As a result, a vital link in the natural chain that makes these islands what they are could vanish.

Three native bumblebee species have already disappeared and seven more are at serious risk.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023355/Beemergency-A-mystery-plague-threatens-Britains-bees-result-worse-foot-mouth.html

 jasman123

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Posted: 6/20/2008 9:17:44 AM
Now that its mentioned, I dont see as many frogs or butterflis. But I see more and more fire ants. Those things can kick azz.
 Stella Blue

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Posted: 6/20/2008 9:27:13 AM

Sure nuff...the Earth is a neat place and people do screw things up. Trouble is too many people and not enough Earth to go 'round. Nature has a way of thinning the herd...but man has gotten too good at not letting that happen.


Write this one down, Nefarious and I actually agree on something.
The earth has a carrying capacity of 5 billion. We are past 6.5 billion now. There are just way too many of us.
This will not be pretty.

Sadly, with the refusal of many of those in power to actually do anything substantial to combat our demise, I really do not see us pulling this out. I hate to admit that.
Humans will still be here, but it is going to be different.
 teachpeace

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Posted: 6/20/2008 9:30:28 AM
Bill Mahrer's been talking about the bee crisis for quite some time; we'd better come up with some techno-bee here pretty soon.
Those of us that are sci-fi readers might have a better glimpse of what this future could look like; I personally prefer Alan Dean Foster's version, however.
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