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 kindapicky

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Posted: 6/22/2008 7:34:58 PM
I consider myself a Christian, so therefore I will not date a person who does not believe in Jesus. I am more of a personal relationship with God instead of a Baptist, Methodist, Church of God and so on. Even though I attend a Baptist church.
I can not walk the walk I want but I see many on dating sites and in life calling themselves "christian" but some of the Posts an remarks are just unbelieveable.
Does any other Christians feel this way? I have many female friends that complain about the way men treat them. And have seen "Christian" men playing the ladies.
When are we going to start being an encouragement for others and not just out for our selfish wants?
 rockondon

Joined: 2/21/2007
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Posted: 6/22/2008 7:58:25 PM

I consider myself a Christian, so therefore I will not date a person who does not believe in Jesus.

I consider myself to be accepting, so therefore I will date a person of virtually any religious denomination. Perhaps a better 'encouragement for others' is to be more accepting of those who believe differently rather than suggest that being Christian automatically means that one is unable to date non-christians.
 Vancer

Joined: 10/29/2006
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Posted: 6/22/2008 8:03:30 PM
I grew up in a Christian household and I know what you mean.
It was more a priority to do/say the things that simply advertise being Christian, rather than striving to use the religions teaching to lead through setting good examples.

My parents went to church, but I kinda figured the pastor either wasn't teaching people properly, or my parents weren't listening, or they only cared to follow what made life easier.

My roommate also is the same denomination as my parents. You honestly would never know from how he lives. It'd have to come up in a conversation. And any criticism of how his life didn't appear to be Christian, would make him angry. It's almost like it's only a badge to some people.

Perhaps it's too hard a religion to teach or follow properly.
I have no idea. But Ghandi said it best...
http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1905

This quote sums up what I'm saying here...
http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/493
 Guy Named Ray

Joined: 2/19/2008
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Posted: 6/22/2008 10:40:41 PM
It's easy to be a Christian in Church.

Matthew 7:24-27 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. "And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. "Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand."The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell-- and great was its fall."
 chthonic warrior

Joined: 5/20/2008
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Posted: 6/22/2008 10:46:35 PM
That's odd. I won't date a christian, i would only date pagans, especially satanists. Satan girls WOULD DEFINITLY PUT OUT!
 85 For Fighting

Joined: 3/24/2008
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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:41:40 AM

Perhaps it's too hard a religion to teach or follow properly.
I have no idea. But Ghandi said it best...
http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1905

which is...

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -- Mahatma Gandhi


To me, this is among the silliest of arguments to support Christians not being Christ-like.

Christ was born without win, and was sinless, while man is the opposite. Of course they're unlike.

For those that do come into the Christian walk, it happens at whatever time for a reason. For me, I live a much more Christ-like life now than I ever did. Sure, I still fall off the saddle now and again, but we all do.
 sassyaquarius

Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 6/23/2008 12:00:08 PM

I consider myself to be accepting, so therefore I will date a person of virtually any religious denomination. Perhaps a better 'encouragement for others' is to be more accepting of those who believe differently rather than suggest that being Christian automatically means that one is unable to date non-christians.
Beautiful! Wish it were more widely embraced, but hey.. I have had to learn to open my mind and heart a little wider myself, so I am no one to speak...

I will say it again, that I have learned a lot in that regard from you, thanks Rock
 kindapicky

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Posted: 6/23/2008 2:02:13 PM
Does any other Christians feel this way? I have many female friends that complain about the way men treat them. And have seen "Christian" men playing the ladies.
When are we going to start being an encouragement for others and not just out for our selfish wants?

Back on subject:
As a Christian, I think we should be an encouragement for others. I have seen christian men and women with almost no morals. The men just laugh and the women complain it's double standards. I usually stand back and watch and listen and decide if I want that person to be a part of my life. Why would I want an irresponsible spouse or friend?
 janofc

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Posted: 6/23/2008 9:53:42 PM
Just like it takes more than someone being called Dad or Mom to be a real Dad or Mom. It takes more than being called a Christian to be a Christian.
 hobbiest1944

Joined: 7/17/2007
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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:58:37 PM
It is for this exact reason that Jesus said the following words:

Mat 20:16 . . . . many be called, but few chosen.

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

What people who believed in Jesus cast out? Why? Because they were lawless. They did not follow God's rules.

Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Both hear the word, and some respond and do it. Others, coast thinking Jesus did it all for us. I know some will disagree, but I point out the next verse:

Mat 7: 28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:

If these sayings are true, then some who teach otherwise will be astonished.

Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Most have been taught that there is nothing to do but accept that Jesus is the Savior. The truth is that accepting Him actually means following Him. Living like He lived.

Jesus is going to marry the Church. Do you really think He will marry just anyone who wants to? Or is is going to marry those who think , believe, and live like He lives.

Art
 southernlass

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Posted: 6/24/2008 1:10:11 AM
I don't think it's easy to walk a truly Christian walk these days. There are so many seductions that abound. There are so many temptations that tantalize even the most devout of Christians. One has to be really plugged into the Lord to see through what's going on. Morality is in great decline in this nation. Christianity is not popular, nor are Christians, yet Christians seemingly abound; but true Christianity is Christ-like or at the minimum, the sincere striving and attempt to be so. We will all fall short, of course, but the test is in the striving.

I think there are many false teachings about and no lack of false prophets. Those who love God, who have received the salvation of Jesus Christ, need to move slowly and cautiously. Dating shouldn't be a hurried activity. It's important to be equally yoked, especially now in the times we're living in. Trust God and keep your eyes on Him. Be aware of what's going on around you. If we're steadfast, I don't think we'll falter and we'll be led to our future mate in due time.
 kindapicky

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Posted: 6/24/2008 2:23:29 PM
Msg, 9, 10, and 11, I agree. I tell my female friends, a man can not see your heart walking down a hall. He sees you smile, body, and etc. That is what gets his attention. The way we each dress, talk, where we go and the people we hang out with.
If a woman acts a little trampy, that's it for me I'm gone. And I think the ladies should demand we men treat them with respect. If we push the sex issue, I tell my friends to tell the men you will not have sex until married, then watch the men.
I have read some posts on here from a few women that claimed to be Christian but were posting all kinds of statements about the kinds of sex they liked??? I am thinking, is she a wh***. I would not tell that to almost no one..
I guess the bottom line, I am so tired as a Christian, trying to live a Christian life and see the evil of this world.
 strawberi50

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Posted: 6/24/2008 4:51:47 PM
It's not about denomination or people...they always seem to fail you one way or another. It's truely about a personal experience with God. There will always be those who say "Lord, Lord" but deny the power inside. It's time to go back to the hillside and get re-aquainted with the 'real thing!' Once you have felt that changing touch you will never be the same...that, my friend, is a genuine Christian, not just an Ebay special!
 southernlass

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Posted: 6/24/2008 6:31:34 PM

I guess the bottom line, I am so tired as a Christian, trying to live a Christian life and see the evil of this world.


I understand, Kindapicky. And the thing is, it's going to get even worse before it's over. Just strap yourself in, keep your eyes on Him, and hang on for the ride. We're seeing a total and complete meltdown of morality and family values. It's all been written about in the Bible but never before have things been quite this bad. I've been taking note of how really bad television is becoming as immorality begins to actually take over the family viewing hour and local channels that were once off-limits to it.

Men and women are becoming addicted to internet porn at an alarming rate. There are millions addicted to it and they are unable to keep themselves from looking at it even when they are at work, doing it even on their employer's dime!

Marriage isn't something many want to do anymore. Some say it will soon become obsolete. The majority of men these days are completely turning away from it, but they are still expecting instant sexual intimacy, along with expecting women to be completely equal, pay their fair share, yet still take care of their children after working all day. These men will live with a woman but not marry her. When they have enough, they walk, leaving her alone to take care of the kids. Many have no intention of paying child support. The roles of men and women have become completely reversed and are murky and difficult to grasp. This is even causing problems in terms of a simple date.

Everything must now be "politically correct." Christians are beginning to be persecuted all over the world for standing up for their beliefs. I believe we are getting close to the one world goverment, global state of being that has already been forecast. There are so many varied signs that are now occurring, that have been written about.

Child abuse is getting worse and far more common, elder abuse and exploitation, children rebelling against their parents, a complete acceptance of immorality that would never have been acknowleged or accepted before. Even Christians are being seduced by the immoral.

We, as Christians, know what all of this means. Stay close to God, trust Him, and pray for this country and this world with all of your might. I think the time is short. Keep your eyes open and be aware. And take heart... we are not alone.
 alwaysDreaming2

Joined: 6/30/2007
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Posted: 6/25/2008 7:04:13 AM
I liked the title of this thread and thought it would enlighten me…instead all I have is sorrow at the hypocrisy by the OP, the footsteps of Jesus are too large for most humans to follow, I struggle everyday for I am only human.




I consider myself a Christian, so therefore I will not date a person who does not believe in Jesus


OP you have every right to decide what is acceptable to you or not, but to judge someone on religious beliefs (to my dismay I have been guilty numerous times, was terrible as a non believer and not much better as a believer) is extremely judgmental. If you believe, only God can be the judge? If you believe in Jesus, even He saw beyond morals and loved Mary Magdelene.



I have read some posts on here from a few women that claimed to be Christian but were posting all kinds of statements about the kinds of sex they liked??? I am thinking, is she a wh***. I would not tell that to almost no one..


and may I remind you of your recent words in another thread…

I think each woman is different. One big boobed lady I was with she loved me f^^king her boobs. She also thought I was a breast feed baby


sometimes one climb on that hill is not enough to meditate and reflect for a revelation/insight, I still see mountains and *leaves in heavy sighs*
 AQUALOVE

Joined: 6/13/2007
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Posted: 6/25/2008 9:02:50 AM
kINDA pICKY
It is nice to read from a woman who wants to follow the Christian Beliefs
and Share the good News "'
Yes there is Bad News too '' There are Bad women in the BIBLE too !
And there are Bad Men as well '' Remember what was written about the Babylonians ""EVIL 'they were '''''' But also there fate was not so glorious
God conquered and had to be rough & tough for the rest the world and for us !
With God on our side how can we go wrong !
Yes This postee has posted some Questions to Ponder and do it to offer
Good news and in hopes to open doors and eyes with thoughts ^THINK ^about what else there is or may be outside the Box !
It is not so much as to what I think '' need or am even like ''Sometimes its because of
what is going on in the world that a change of venue may be in order . or shining a Brighter Light ''Insight or just a dose of Wisdom now and then .... We people Today are Our Childrens of Tommorrows
"'Question is "'?? What are we adults teaching & bringing to the Table as far as the Children are concerned .... ? Christianity is a Journey ''to become more like Jesus !
We are sinners ''But once we know the truth and we continue to sin "'It becomes more than SIN ............

The Good Good News is with God on our side ^^^^ how can we go wrong ?
 hereshecomesagain

Joined: 3/20/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 10:27:35 AM
"Christianity" is a bundle of contradictions and hypocrisy. so how can you hope to walk that line? Open the Bible and find justification for just about everything. I am particularly fond of the Eat Drink and Be Merry of Ecclesiasties, yet the jerk also says that all women are worthless whores and can't be trusted.... Good to know that the Good Book validates what many men think of women....

Let's start with the fact that his name wasn't "Jesus" it was most probably "Yeshua" but there was a misprint and so it goes.... so how there can be "power in the name of Jesus" and no "power in the name of Yeshua" baffles me. He hasn't fullfilled ANY of the definitions of "Messiah", which is what "Christ" means, so it's a misnomer from the start.

I believe in Yeshua. He walked this earth, he taught, he most certainly transcended - because the secular history documents that the people who saw the event would not change their story even under torture, and did not contradict each other. It's psychological impossible then, for this story to be false.

I believe that you can appeal to Him for help and you will get it. I believe that all of his lessons (but maybe not all of Paul's....) have value and the whole "What would Jesus do?" philosophy is a very good way to approach life's choices. I am not, however, a "Christian", I don't trust "Christians" and I can't comprehend why they put their trust in a path that is so convoluted that a GPS wouldn't keep you from getting lost.
 romanticoptimist

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Posted: 6/25/2008 11:26:35 AM

I am particularly fond of the Eat Drink and Be Merry of Ecclesiastes, yet the jerk also says that all women are worthless whores and can't be trusted.... Good to know that the Good Book validates what many men think of women....

While I'm familiar with the somewhat cynical "Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die" sentiments expressed in Ecclesiastes, I'm unaware where the writers states, "that all women are worthless whores and can't be trusted". Could you tell us where that passage is so we can read it for ourselves? After all, that's quite a damning statement to make without any evidence, isn't it?

As for your "Jesus" v "Yeshua" comments, the one is an English name that translates the original. The name remains the same. Just like "Petros" (Greek) and "Peter" (English) and "Pierre" (French) and "Cephas" (Aramaic?) are the same but expressed differently in different languages. there's no "misprint". By the way, "Yeshua" is actually an anglicised transliteration of the name, technically as inaccurate as "Jesus".
 kindapicky

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Posted: 6/25/2008 2:49:20 PM
I guess what I am saying. I fail a lot, but it just seems as another post stated, things are getting worst. We as Christians should stick together. We should not let the other people of this world drag us down.
 rockondon

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Posted: 6/25/2008 3:22:52 PM

We as Christians should stick together. We should not let the other people of this world drag us down.
And so begins the 'us vs. them' mentality that leads to intolerance towards anyone who believes differently. Metaphorically speaking, if Jesus' path is one of love, your 'Christian walk' has branched off that path and now follows a trail of pride and hate. (in my opinion).
 southernlass

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Posted: 6/25/2008 4:20:04 PM
Rockondon,

I don't think Kindapicky means to create an "us versus them" mentality through what the OP says or through subsequent posts that follow. Let's face it though -- Christians are to be set apart, according to the Bible. They will stand apart from the world in many respects, if they are attempting to be as the Bible instructs, or as Christ Himself instructed. That is likely to create separation in and of itself. Don't you agree?

There was a thread started in Relationships about why women insist that men must love God in order to date women who love God. Various and many women explained that they preferred to seek other Christian believers, or people who love God like themselves to date and get involved with. This notion was derided and criticized by many, though it makes perfect sense to me and made sense to the others of us that believe.

When one walks a "Christian walk," one will be set apart from his or her fellows. For example, when the majority of men and women deem it appropriate to enjoy pornography with their partners or by themselves in a relationship, and a scattering of Christians speak out and say, "no, this is not appropriate," we tend to stand out in the crowd. Often we are insulted and jeered at for our differences on this topic and many others.

And therein likes the path to what those who do not believe call "intolerance." I do not believe we are intolerant, however; I believe we are merely following the guide to our spiritual beliefs, the Bible. We are attempting to be like the One our beliefs are named after and we know that there is strength in numbers and support in staying close to one another. There are extremely trying times ahead for all of us and these times may eventually be quite dangerous as well. I see nothing wrong with reaching out for support from one another, or in expressing our feelings over the state of the times we are living in.
 kindapicky

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Posted: 6/27/2008 1:45:25 PM
Southernlass is correct about what I am referring to, I am not comfortable at a party when some one is getting drunk. No it has nothing to do with me, but that is when bad things start to happen. What about our Christian friends, and one decides to start an affair, do you not say any thing to them, or continue to act as nothing is going on. What about someone stealing at work. Are we not to help each other with our accountability??
I fall as much or more as the next. I am encouraged when my christian friends are an encouragement to me.
It is time we stop straying, stop playing games, and ENCOURAGE each other.
 average_anomaly

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Posted: 6/27/2008 3:32:43 PM
This is funny, but people are like you are the reason I stay away from christians.

I like what Rock had to say- kudos!
 sassyaquarius

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Posted: 6/27/2008 3:58:59 PM

We as Christians should stick together. We should not let the other people of this world drag us down.
Wow.

As though you have to be a christian in order to have morals and want to be a good person? Non-believers just drag down all of the virtuous christians? Spare me. Your very own thread implies otherwise

I need no encouragement from others who think exactly like me in order to fulfill my desire to be an honorable person... the only encouragement I need is my relationship with God.. as my relationship deepens, an increased intimacy in my relationships with others, this world and my own being permeates everything... that is all the reward and encouragement I need... yet I am no christian.

BE the change you wish to see in this world ;)

Oh, and Alwaysdreaming.. thanks for pointing out the hypocricy! Good eye ;)
 sparxarebad

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Posted: 6/27/2008 6:12:48 PM

I consider myself to be accepting, so therefore I will date a person of virtually any religious denomination. Perhaps a better 'encouragement for others' is to be more accepting of those who believe differently rather than suggest that being Christian automatically means that one is unable to date non-christians.


Hey, I am accepting of all people but I realize that there will probably be difficulties if I were to date someone that wasn't a believer in Christ like myself.


For example, when the majority of men and women deem it appropriate to enjoy pornography with their partners or by themselves in a relationship, and a scattering of Christians speak out and say, "no, this is not appropriate," we tend to stand out in the crowd. Often we are insulted and jeered at for our differences on this topic and many others.


Tell me about it, I asked one guy at work to NOT send me anymore pornography six months ago and it seems like he sent it to everyone else in the entire company. I stopped getting any emails whatsoever from anyone. I just keep reminding myself of what Jesus said "I may have to live in this world but I am not of it!"
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