| FOX NEWS: Lying to America? [Thread Closed - Derailed]
Posted: 6/23/2008 6:40:45 PM | Fox News makes the claim of fair and balance reporting. I often hear the term *Liberal media* used to describe CBS and NBC, but having watched Fox during this election cycle I am really appalled at how biased they are in their reporting in favor of the Republicans. Today I found a compilation of Fox News stories on a website called Outfoxed.com.
I'm sure there are a plenty of Democratic minded people that will read this and agree that Fox is biased, but I'd really like to hear the opinions of the conservatives as well. Do you feel you are being manipulated by Fox's reporting? | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 6:48:49 PM | | slowride, I believe that the media in general whether it is fox or the "liberal media" manipulates us towards their personnal agenda. I am almost starting to see the news more as an entertainment venue rather than really reporting. One thing that I do see with the media though is that both sides keep the flames stoked and the American people at odds with each other. We are to busy fighting and arguing to pay attention to what is happening to us and the politicians both left and right are robbing us blind. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 6:54:11 PM | outfoxed, whats their agenda?
try msnbc, they are openly rooting for the democrats
as is nbc on the today show, where they spotlighted the dems on every 7:15 am political segment.
somebody here made me laugh, talking about how msnbc should rename themselves "democrat today" and how one can watch chris matthews have the obama thrill "go down his leg." | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 6:56:17 PM | | Personally, I see that Fox news is more inclined to report the news and the facts. Liberals are so you to distortion and biased that they label it biased on the right. To me the truth is biased to the right and liberals prefer to be spoon fed the standard liberal fare and are uncomfortable with anything else. That's why your hearing about attempts to shut down certain talk radio programs etc. to silence anything outside of liberal editorial instead of news. Don't be afraid of information - its good for you! | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 6:58:18 PM | ... seems as easy as following the money... once you start doing that you see more bias towards the right wing agenda...
...with Mcllelens new book there has been admissions from news reporters of being pushed to stay with a pro war stance....
anybody hear of any news people saying they were pushed to sticking to a left wing agenda?
thats a great site you referenced...another one is media matters, run by a former right wing strategist who saw the light.... | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 7:01:47 PM | | Every media outlet has a bias of some sort. It's quite simple, really-- if you cannot notice the bias, it simply means that its bias is the exact same as your own. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 7:05:28 PM | http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/article/312732
At this point, even Rupert Murdoch, owner of right-wing media outlets such as FOX News, is predicting a landslide win for the Democrats in 2008. I wonder how the pro-Republican FOX News network is going to report this?
...maybe that's why Faux is spinning so hard... | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 7:05:57 PM | I'm not a Conservative or a Liberal, I am not even American.
But I can say FOX is a joke. Fair and balanced? Lol right..
From what I have seen most News outlets do have their own slant, but FOX really stands out.
Anyone who takes Bill O'Reilly seriously and actually likes him has issues, and probably not a very high IQ either. I put O'Reilly on the same page as Jerry Springer. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 7:13:45 PM | I never vote to delete a thread (excect one blatant spammer) but aren't all threads from now up until election time going to be somewhat redundant ?
I only watch Red Eye on Fox. Get all the unabashed twisted bias I need on pof forums. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 7:21:20 PM | Fox Bias gets worse by the day! Now they have another conservative hosting a show, Laura Ingram "Just In". They are so flooded with conservatives its a joke to ever say its fair and balanced. I watch Fox, Msnbc, and Cnn and flipping back and forth you can see the bias so much easier. Msnbc is definitely bias towards the left. Cnn tends to be the closest to the center of news .
What makes me sick with Fox is I notice anytime there is bad news towards John McCain or the Bush Administration, Fox barely covers it and you have to listen to the other news channels to hear about it. I've noticed them blantantly do this repeatedly and its nothing more than "cherry picking" news that they want to cover that favors the right wing agenda. At least the other news stations are covering all the news even if it doesn't favor a candidate and not hiding it like Fox does! Also they are only running support John McCain ads, while nothing on Obama. Real fair and balanced | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 7:27:25 PM | I stay away from any network news except for McNeil Lehrer.
Let's face, most news is corporate media. They are not interested in news, they are interested in profit, ratings, share, and since the liberal cause is often anti-corporate there's a confilict of interest.
Even before the advent of Fox News, I was dissatisfied with the right leaning of Corporate News. Over the years you could see the very little integrity of the American press that existed wither away. Now with all the corporate consolidation, the situation is laughable. Although in a world of perposterous news reporting, I do think Fox takes the cake.
Although, I blame the American public for not informing themselves and not seeing any virtue in the ability to think critically. If the quality of pro or college football were in decline, Americans would be in an uproar. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:21:02 PM | I'm a conservative-
It's funny that you use the word "lying." I would say they are telling the other side of the story-the side that isn't covered by any of the major networks, cable networks, Newsweek, Time, or most of the major city newspapers.
When they use the motto "Fair and Balanced" I take it to mean an attempt to counteract every single other news source, which only gives America liberal lies.
So unbiased? No. But I challenge anyone to point to an unbiased news source. Attempting to create a balance in American media? Yes and I'm glad they are out there. Unfortunately, the balance still favors the left in mainstream media. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:36:46 PM | | if you watch fox, notice that they have a liberal on EVERY opinion segment. what other cable or net can say the same? | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 8:43:15 PM | | ^^^ those aren't real liberals, generally, but token libs they know can't find their own ass and can make look like dorks ...but Thom Hartman interviews REAL conservatives on his show quite often...Randi Rhodes also takes loads of calls from conservatives with a policy of letting them in first.... neither of whom make pretenses and asses out of those who believe Faux is "fair and balanced".... Thom and Randi call it what it is, the truth....... | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:46:47 PM | show me please,
I guess you don't watch Fox in the evenings where every night they have on either Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, or Dic Morris on with no opposition. At least Morris remains objective. Newt and Rove are featured guests constantly on the primetime shows. You don't consider all their opinions with no opposition as one sided?
Name me any liberal featured guests they have on constantly with no opposition like the conservatives I've mentioned? I bet you can't! | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 8:56:13 PM | Did you say that****morris is objective?? Fell off my chair for that one.
I do think Fox should be taken to task for the active role that they play in purposefully diseminating patently false information.
Example: an overwhelming majority of fox viewers believed that sadam hussein had something to do with 9/11. there is no other way to explain that except that Fox News policy was to actually LIE in order to support the president.
There is a word that, PROPAGANDA!
- other propaganda pushed by fox: swiftboaters, whitewater, vince foster murder, troopergate, etc.
It's sad that people actually trust this propaganda and relinquish their critical thinking for partisan purposes. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 9:02:11 PM | Did you say that****morris is objective?? Fell off my chair for that one.
Let me clear that up eriksfbay, compared to Newt and Rove, Morris is objective in the sense that sometimes I at least hear him criticize the Bush administration and McCain. Morris clearly favors the right and is why he along with the others mentioned are constantly promoted on Oreilly and Hannity&Colmes shows. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:34:10 PM | People right here in this thread are just comparing Fox News to abc cbs cnn msnbc time newsweek and all of the rest of the so called free press.
I think everyone here is intelligent enough to know that we're being lied to on all sides.
What for do ? Shut down all media and make it a capitol offence to lie ? | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 10:09:09 PM |
It's funny that you use the word "lying."
I posed it as a question and not statement of fact. I think when Fox says "Fair and Balance" I don't believe they are saying, "Counteracting the liberal media by distorting stories in the other direction" as your post suggests. Fair and balanced means just that, telling the story without an spin or biased opinion. Please visit the website that I linked in this article and kindly share your opinion of that site. It's what made me post this thread.
I tend to avoid MSNBC and Fox. I generally read CNN, BBC, and if a story interests me I then go read the MSNBC and Fox versions as well as a kind of cross check to see where the distortions are. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 11:05:47 PM | It's never a good idea to expect truly "honest" reporting from a news source that exists first and foremost as a profit-making venture. I personally consider Fox to be as bad as it gets (of the mainstream news networks), and there is no pretense (that I've seen) of investigative journalism there, but where it (actual investigative reporting) exists in mainstream media it doesn't exist MUCH. I tend to accept the seriousness of certain people in their reporting (Christiane Amanpour on CNN, for example, is more "credible" to me than Soledad O'Brien on the same network, and NOT because of the network), but these networks all exist to make money and they do that by appealing to populist low thinking, providing the kind of journalism that can be processed without much thought.
But when it comes to Fox, I see it as specifically designed to appeal to right wing prejudices, and I haven't seen mainstream programming that appeals, similarly, to the left. It seems to me that in the mainstream there's centrism, and then there's right- wing bias, but even the more centrist networks (like CNN) have their demagogues. Our problem as a society (IMO) is that too many people want to be spoon-fed "news" that appeals to their pre-existing prejudices...and Fox has perfected that kind of reporting. NOBODY who isn't a hyper conservative takes that network remotely seriously, and that by itself should tell you something. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:11:09 PM | I used to think CNN was fair but after watching Wolf Blitzer's fawning worship of Obama all during the primary and listening to them cover Obama incessantly while not giving the same consideration to Clinton, I realized what was going on. This was my first real introduction to what I now term "the liberal media."
You see, at one time I was a democrat so I honestly didn't notice the bias. It wasn't until I began to take notice of the raw deal they were giving Hillary that I discovered just how biased they are. I had to actually start watching FOX NEWS on cable to get an equal distribution of Hillary and hear the truth about what was going on with her campaign etc. All of the other news channels, including the cable news channels, were so sickeningly in favor of Obama that I really found myself surprised..and disappointed, to say the least. I thought the news would simply be more fair. Not so. MSNBC really is the absolute worst. They'll make you gag. But CNN is highly disappointing to me now. I'll never look at them the same way again.
Anyway, now that the primary season is over and I've become Independent, I'm not sure where to get my news from. Since I'm planning on voting McCain in Nov, I don't mind watching Fox news. Though it leans to the right, it's the only one I'm aware of that does. And at least there, I know I'm getting some kind of balance. All of the rest are going to be to the extreme left so I just keep that in mind when I click between them and return back to FOX.
Perhaps some sites on the computer are less biased. I sure hope more of you will provide potential links to some truly fair news sources -- that is if there are any out there anymore.
Edit: I forgot to say that Lou Dobbs is the one redeeming individual I've managed to find on CNN. At least he's for real. He shoots it straight. And he's Independent as well, so I know I'm getting a more balanced perspective from him. Without him, they could throw CNN in the trashcan with the rest.. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/23/2008 11:15:32 PM |
All of the rest are going to be to the extreme left so I just keep that in mind when I click between them and return back to FOX.
Not to argue just for the sake of argument, but there is no such thing as an "extreme left" mainstream news source in this country. One of the problems here is actually defining terms....and perhaps we should all do that....but while you might see what you detected in CNN coverage of the democratic primary as overly pro-Obama (and thus, in your view, too "liberal"--although what that means for an "independent" McCain convert is unclear), there is no way that CNN is anything even remotely resembling "left" (much less "extreme left").
Since I'm planning on voting McCain in Nov, I don't mind watching Fox news. Though it leans to the right, it's the only one I'm aware of that does. And at least there, I know I'm getting some kind of balance.
But it's interesting that you say this: NOW that you are voting for McCain, you don't mind watching Fox, because they are supporting the candidate you support? Catering to ideas that you already hold? And you see the fact that they "lean to the right" as a guarantee of some kind of "balance" in reporting? How is that balanced?
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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:26:12 PM | uh, they attacked and hated ron paul: a republican................
fox news: unfair and unbalaced | |
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