| 2008 Summer may see first ice-free North Pole
Posted: 6/28/2008 9:32:32 AM | Another article for Al Gore Alarmists to hop and shout "We told you so!" eh?
#1. They quote 3 scientists in this article. There are what, 1000's to several 1000's of scientists that study the poles and the ice but the liberal press make a hay day from the opinions of 3 scientists that the North Pole might be ice free? Grasping for straws maybe?
#2. They seem to have failed to mention that (Alaska specifically) is having an abnormal COOLER then normal summer. We are usually in the mid sixties to mid seventies and we are barely hitting the high 50's to low 60's. That would also indicate cooler temperatures for the northern parts also.
Summer may see first ice-free North Pole
Spot itself isn't scientifically significant, but there's symbolic importance
The Associated Press
updated 2:39 p.m. AKT, Fri., June. 27, 2008
WASHINGTON - There’s a 50-50 chance that the North Pole will be ice-free this summer, which would be a first in recorded history, a leading ice scientist says.
The weather and ocean conditions in the next couple of weeks will determine how much of the sea ice will melt, and early signs are not good, said Mark Serreze. He’s a senior researcher at the National Snow and Ice Data Center and the University of Colorado in Boulder, Colo.
The chances for a total meltdown at the pole are higher than ever because the layer of ice coating the sea is thinner than ever, he said.
“A large area at the North Pole and surrounding the North Pole is first-year ice,” Serreze said. “That’s the stuff that tends to melt out in the summer because it’s thin.”
Record ice melt
Preliminary February and March data from a NASA satellite shows that the circle of ice surrounding the North Pole is “considerably thinner” than scientists have seen during the five years the satellite has been taking pictures, NASA ice scientist Jay Zwally said Friday. He thinks there is slightly less than a 50-50 chance the North Pole will be ice-free.
Last year was a record year for ice melt all over the Arctic and the ice band surrounding the North Pole is even thinner now.
There is nothing scientifically significant about the North Pole, Serreze said. But there is a cultural and symbolic importance. It’s home to Santa Claus, after all. Last August, the Northwest Passage was open to navigation for the first time in memory.
A more conservative ice scientist, Cecilia Bitz at the University of Washington, put the odds of a North Pole without ice closer to 1 in 4. Even that is far worse than climate models had predicted, which was 1 in 70 sometime in the next decade, she said.
But both she and Serreze agree it’s just a matter of time.
Warming climate partly to blame
“I would guess within the next 10 years it would happen at least once,” Bitz said.
Already, figures from the National Snow and Ice Data Center show sea ice in the Arctic as a whole at about the same level now as it was at its low point last year in late June and early July.
The explanation is a warming climate and a weather phenomenon, scientists said.
For the last couple of decades, there has been a steady melt of Arctic sea ice — which covers only the ocean and which thins during summer and refreezes in winter. In recent years, it has gradually become thinner because more of it has been melting as the Earth’s temperature rises.
Then, this past winter, there was a natural weather shift called the Arctic Oscillation, sort of a cold weather cousin to El Nino. That oscillation caused a change in winds and ocean that accelerated a normal flushing of sea ice in the Arctic. That pushed the older thicker sea ice that had been over the North Pole south toward Greenland and eventually out of the Arctic, Serreze said. That left just a thin one-year layer of ice that previously covered part of Siberia.
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| 2008 Summer may see first ice-free North Pole
Posted: 6/28/2008 9:43:29 AM | I read that and the next article I ran across was the one below....seems National Geographic mentions thick ice in their article. They seem to think that there is thick ice up there.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080626-arctic-volcano.html
Arctic Volcanoes Found Active at Unprecedented DepthsKimberly Johnson
for National Geographic News
June 26, 2008
Buried under thick ice and frigid water, volcanic explosions are shaking the Arctic Ocean floor at depths previously thought impossible, according to a new study.
Using robot-operated submarines, researchers have found deposits of glassy rock—evidence of eruptions—scattered over more than 5 square miles (15 square kilometers) of the seabed. | |
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| 2008 Summer may see first ice-free North Pole
Posted: 6/28/2008 10:13:25 AM | http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=POLAR+ICE+CAP+NEWS+&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=11&ct=title
I watched a video of Tony Blair ex prime minister and President GWB's cohort, it seems like he, GWB, SBO, SJM and many other's seem to support the premise that global warming is having an impact on our environment, Let's see President Bush is a oil man (pollution) and he may be a position to accumulate and gather information from the best qualified scientist in the world (and he should be) so if he feels that their may be a problem and Tony Blair and Seantor John McCain and Senator Barrack Obama all feel from the information that they are gathering that we may have a problem maybe there is a problem
So let's say they are wrong but they react to the potiental by starting to reduce air pollution that contributes or could contribute to global warming what will happen?
Lets see what are the possibilities
Nothing!!!
Cleaner air!!!
Cleaner drinking water!!!!
Less lung disease !!!!
Less cancer!!!!!
Now lets say they are right but they don't react to the potiental what will happen
Nothing!!!!!!!!!!
More pollution!!!!!!!!
Less potable water!!!!!!!!
More lung disease!!!!!!!!!!
More cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So I think looking at the potentials that maybe we should start to make a real effort to clean up our environment, what do you think? | |
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| 2008 Summer may see first ice-free North Pole
Posted: 6/28/2008 10:39:06 AM | Earlpz, I think I want to argue relentlessly for the protection of large corporations and their bottom lines, ignore reality and enter into denial, live in my bubble world and never leave it, and continue to pollute and ruin the biosphere in the name of my "way of life".
Next? | |
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| 2008 Summer may see first ice-free North Pole
Posted: 6/28/2008 11:14:41 AM | TheStepano Thank goodness WE all live in a free society, where WE still have the right to pursue what ever makes US happy, Don't worry just build your bubble on high land and out of bricks and mortar, maybe the threat of global warming is why all of OUR jobs are leaving following all of the american corporations, maybe its not corporate greed maybe it's corporate fear. Maybe it's land mass hysterial that is behind OUR invasion of Iraq and not corporate greed
Just in case global warming is a threat I will keep lobbying and blogging for cleaner air, new technology, more job opportunities and more government involvement to solve OUR economic crisis | |
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