4rum
| Joined: 5/10/2008 Msg: 1 | |
| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 9:25:35 PM | Front page news, Sunday paper.
It's sad days to lose so many of one family to crime. Three brothers and one cousin aged 10, 11, 15 and 17 in a stolen car. Driving at 130kph.
My thoughts ran like this -
-What the hell are they doing out at that time of night? Little sh*ts. -Where the hell are their parents? As if the parents care! My sons at that age never ever thought about stealing, let alone stealing a car. Hell they can't even break into their own house. I bet those little sh*ts could. -I assumed their race. I know that's not nice. Sorry.
It's sad days to lose so many in one family on a single day. Four killed, aged 10, 11, 15 and 17. No one wants to hear that babies have been killed. Nothing is sadder than a mother crying for her baby. What a waste. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 9:28:36 PM | Hopefully it's the same little shits who broke into my house and destroyed my peace of mind, among other things, it's called Karma
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 9:35:32 PM | Natural selection at work. They were not wearing seatbelts.
The only thing that disturbs me about it really is this:
They are investigating if the car's owner briefly chased the boys. That implies the owner of the car may somehow be blamed for these clowns throwing a little chlorine in the gene pool. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 9:41:20 PM |
a little chlorine in the gene pool probably the first time I've ever agreed with CT and yes it does seem harsh but before you attack me or him, consider the fact that it could've been your car, your house they broke into, or your family driving the other way minding their own business...
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 9:49:06 PM | Ronda...
Oh No, What happened ? Are you ok ?...surely you dont mean that..karma over 4 deaths ???
But yes very sad and I agree, what were they doing out late at nite ?, where were their parents, what kind of society do we live in now that allows for fate to come together to cause this to happen...they should have been at home in bed or on the computer playing whatever, not out stealing bloody cars !!!.. ...sadly we will never know the WHOLE truth here just bits and pieces and in a weeks time after the funerals their deaths will slip from our sights and they will become stastitics..no matter what they did, no parent should bury their child, irrespective of circumstances...its somehow very very wrong...
Im also very grateful that no other "innocents" were killed as a result of these stupid kids......thank god... | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 10:07:30 PM | Hey Pooks :) I'm fine, just a little bitter and twisted, obviously, after my new home I worked so hard for, moved into and felt so contented, was broken into while I was at work earning money as opposed to stealing. The cops said probably kids, no hope of catching them or finding my grandmother's jewellery among other irreplaceble stuff they probably sold for a coupla bucks or drugs. obviously they have nothing better to do, if their parents don't want to be burying them they should do a better job teaching them respect and supervising them so they're not out all night doing this kinda shit
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 10:39:24 PM | I have to agree that I wonder what these kids were doing out at that time of night stealing cars. Where were their parents?? But on the other hand to lose a child let alone 4 is terrible. I would imagine its something the parents will feel guilty about for the rest of their lives. Or maybe not, but lets hope its a lesson learnt the hard way and if they have any more children they will begin to take better care of them. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 11:39:47 PM | I ache whenever I hear a child has died. It reverberates through me on such a deep level.
Raising kids is one of the toughest jobs I've known, and all any parents can do is try to instill their values and raise the best people they can. At some point, (it has little bearing on age) kids decide they are going to start thinking for themselves, and even Mother Theresa can't make a difference once that happens.
Sometimes, without warning, everything you taught them, just seems to go out the window, and you stand there looking at your kid, wondering what the hell you did wrong and scratching your head or throwing your hands in the air... certain you raised him/her smarter than that, with better morals, standards, more self respect or common sense...
And the teenager turns into a 5 year old for a flashing moment, and you hear those words again "...but it was an accident. I didn't mean it."
The parents will understand what I am saying. Those who don't will no doubt be dragged into reality sometime.
You can call it karma... call it justice....call it life.. call it whatever... but there's a family hurting like few would understand right now. Blaming them, blaming the older cousin, blaming the roads, blaming the time, blaming anyone... won't ease that pain. I couldn't wish any more on them.
Best to just be grateful for our kids with all their quirks, and their live and learn attitudes, and hope they don't get caught up in an accident too big to walk away from. May they all rest in peace. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 11:58:23 PM | Great post Bionic....I think you just about summed it up perfectly. I don't think there would be many of us here who haven't done something stupid at one time or another in there youth. I don't mean planned deliberate crimes against society more the impetuous decisions such as driving with mates when they have had a few to many or tried such and such a drug. (not me of course) I have often reflected on some of my mates who are no longer around and thought sometimes it just boils down to timing and fate. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/28/2008 11:59:34 PM | | Hey I'm not totally heartless, and of course no family deserves anything this tragic, I guess what makes me so angry about stuff like this is that at least 3 of these kids should not have been in a position for this to happen, and the 17 year old probably didn't have adequate supervision (either at the time or his entire life), and bad as it turned out, it could've been a perfectly innocent family who just happened to be on the road at the same time who got taken out with them. Never should've happened but a lot more innocent people could've suffered. | |
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Hagars
| Joined: 4/20/2008 Msg: 11 | |
| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 12:20:39 AM | Hopefully it's the same little shits who broke into my house and destroyed my peace of mind, among other things, it's called Karma ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
no its not totally heartless its sick. | |
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TLC_
| Joined: 1/26/2008 Msg: 12 | |
| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:01:52 AM |
They had great smiles, they had great personalities...They were so nice, so polite, so respectful'''good little footy players
wheres the part that says 'THEY WERE THEAVES' | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:04:03 AM | | If i remember my childhood years correctly, what probably happened was that they had guests at there place and the adults were socialising and the kids were probably outside playing, the older one probably came up with the great idea of stealing a car, and if they just drive the car for a little while and come back, the parents won't notice they were gone and won't get into trouble. Unfortunately this happened and mum and dad must be so angry and kicking themselves. The older one probably hangs out with the wrong crowd, so knew how to steal the car, and the others just tagged along. Having said this, it wouldn't suprise me if the discipline around the home isn't as strict as it should be, but the parents wouldn't have expected them to do this im sure. | |
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TLC_
| Joined: 1/26/2008 Msg: 14 | |
| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:13:35 AM | | so the older one is a theath, and the others are just idiots that went along? ... | |
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4rum
| Joined: 5/10/2008 Msg: 15 | |
| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:21:45 AM | Had they not crashed, they would've been slapped on the wrists for stealing a car, driving without a licence, speeding and not wearing seatbelts. And, gone on to break more laws.
Had they been adults, we wouldn't be so sympathetic. That they're all children is the tragedy.
There is someone without a car. It's an older model so even if it's insured he won't get that much. I hope that he isn't being blamed if he did chase them.
Someone's got to pay for the replacement pole; us, the taxpayers. On a bigger scale, we're always paying for crimes in one way or another.
I'm the eldest of 9 children, single income family. I knew from an early age that I had to set a good example for my little brothers and sisters. My parents took full responsibility for anything we did wrong and boy did we get it if we did something wrong. I'm glad for my upbringing and the legacy I pass onto my own children. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:23:58 AM | I didn't see the acrticle but I blame the parents.
Not only would that "opportunity" have not been available to me as a child, I knew the trouble i'd get into wouldn't be worth it!
I'm not saying it's always the parents fault. I know kids can get into enough trouble on their own. I do wonder how they have raised their children though?? | |
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TLC_
| Joined: 1/26/2008 Msg: 17 | |
| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:31:40 AM | how can you plame the parents milly?
the parents didnt pinch the car, the oldest of the kids was old enough to know better. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:32:15 AM | | i so agree with that sxylikeavampire, my parents always expected the best of behaviour from me and my brother. It leads to a much better community when kids and then later as adults know what the right thing is which makes them positive members of society and people don't get hurt for nothing, whether that be physically or mentally. When kids don't know what is right or good for them everyone pays. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:35:28 AM | If only we could put wise old heads on young shoulders | |
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TLC_
| Joined: 1/26/2008 Msg: 20 | |
| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:36:55 AM | yep, trouble today is that parents cant give their kids a thick ear or slap on the butt for missbehaving. hell i got a few wacks when i was a kid for swiping lollies or other little things from a shop. it stoped me from progressing to bigger crime. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 1:55:29 AM | Any suggestion that theses kids got what they deserved is just repulsive.
Hopefully it's the same little shits who broke into my house and destroyed my peace of mind, among other things, it's called Karma maybe the break in was the Karma?
what kind of society do we live in now that allows for fate to come together to cause this to happen Do we allow fate? Isn't fate something that is beyond our control or is that destiny? | |
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TLC_
| Joined: 1/26/2008 Msg: 22 | |
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4rum
| Joined: 5/10/2008 Msg: 23 | |
| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 2:14:40 AM | I'm sure rainbow didn't actually mean the much quoted line of hers . Hands up if you've had your home invaded and robbed. You'll know how she feels and where that comment came from.
I stand by this; good parenting was amiss last night. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 2:58:57 AM |
Any suggestion that theses kids got what they deserved is just repulsive. I suppose you would sympathise with thieves, given your criminal activities and all. | |
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| In the news today Posted: 6/29/2008 3:06:58 AM | they were kids born into certain families.....................could it possible if they were born in another type of family things would have turned differently for them???
Have you met nice families with good values that had children who were actually very nice but naive and got involved with bad types and ruined themselves and their family??? I have met such families and their life was destroyed as much as they did their best not for it to happen.
I am not sure how life works and things happen but sometimes bad things happen to good people and good happens to bad too.
I hope whatever they were and whatever bad they did it won't happen to our families.
I suppose no matter what …..I like to say god bless them regardless. | |
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