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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/29/2008 5:27:18 PM | US gives 'major' boost to covert ops in Iran: report WASHINGTON, June 29 (AFP) Jun 29, 2008
The United States gave a major boost to covert operations against Iran with Congress's approval last year of President George W. Bush's request for 400 million dollars, a US magazine reported Sunday.
The move reveals a "major escalation" in clandestine operations aimed at destabilizing the Islamic republic's religious leadership amid concerns over Tehran's nuclear ambitions, said the report in the New Yorker magazine citing former military, intelligence, and congressional sources.
Among the methods being used are increased US support for minority and dissident groups and intelligence gathering about Iran's nuclear facilities, said the article, written and reported by Seymour Hersh.
Although such covert activities in Iran are not new on the part of the United States, the magazine said the "scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded."
The Congress approved Bush's request for funding late last year, according to sources with knowledge of the top secret Presidential Finding, which by law must be issued when covert intelligence operations get underway.
The Presidential Finding is conveyed to a select group of Congressional leaders and their intelligence committees, otherwise known as the Gang of Eight, the report said.
"The Finding was focused on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change," and involved "working with opposition groups and passing money," the report said, quoting an unnamed "person familiar with its contents."
The report said some lawmakers were skeptical of the administration's aims, and there was "a significant amount of high-level discussion" about the Finding before the funding was eventually approved.
http://www.spacewar.com/2006/080629061113.bfvpwct9.html
What if anything does this signal? | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/29/2008 7:19:16 PM | .... good question...
it seems to me that they are going to mess with the Iranians no matter what. they may be even trying to draw them out more. i've read that a lot of incursions by special ops have been coming in from the kurd areas as they are more friendly to the US than the other parts of Iraq. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/29/2008 7:38:51 PM |
The move reveals a "major escalation" in clandestine operations aimed at destabilizing the Islamic republic's religious leadership amid concerns over Tehran's nuclear ambitions, said the report in the New Yorker magazine citing former military, intelligence, and congressional sources.
Seems to me that if a foreign national is on our soil committing illegal acts to disrupt our way of life, we get to call them a terrorist and whisk them off to a country that practices torture. We would call it state sponsored terror and starve that country into submission.
So if the Iranians capture a covert operative, what international law would be called on to support transporting them to yemen for enhanced interrogation. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/29/2008 8:22:43 PM | It seems somewhat ironic to me that if this article is true, wouldn't printing an article about it, defeat the purpose of 'covert' operations? Unless of course, it's just a mindf**k on the Iranians.
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/29/2008 9:47:41 PM | | ... sometimes banquo the truth is best disguised out in the open..... this is not new news.... and Sy is pretty bullet proof.... | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 12:34:49 AM | Yes it seems to me to be altogether “WIERD”.
I’ve been trying to understand this relationship that the US has with Israel but it never seems to make common sense. Sure I understand the hierarchy of the US Gov’t is all staffed by Zionists and so therefore they can steer US policy to favour Israel and in this manner the Israeli Gov’t can dictate US foreign, defence and treasury policy. So Israel gets to use the US as a puppet to perform its deeds. But surely US citizens and politicians know all this? So why does it continue? Will it stop when the US has created the Israeli dream of the “Greater Israel”. A somewhat expanded Israeli Homeland vis-à-vis half of Egypt to the west and half of Iraq to the east with bits of Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and Syria thrown in? If that dream is ever fulfilled I don’t think there’ll be much left of the USA or most of the Northern Hemisphere nations either.
I’m thinking that perhaps there needs to be a secular gov’t in the US. There needs to be separation of religion and state like here in Australia. I’m leaning this way because it states somewhere in the Bible that everyone must support Israel and this must be the reason for the US marching to Israeli tunes? After all the US was settled by religious nutters thrown out of Europe and those fundamentalists have a huge say in the gov’t with even the US Pres exclaiming that God talks to him and that he is on a crusade.
From now to Nov will be interesting times on Earth. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 5:31:41 AM | We've been supporting an anti-mullah terrorist group--ironically, one Saddam also supported--for some years now, at the behest of Newtie if I remember correctly. They were blowing stuff up during the last Iranian election, which probably made hard-liner Amadinijad (sic) look good.
It says what its always said--we think we're the only ones that'll get democracy in Iran. If Obama gets elected, you can almost be sure there will be bombing. If its McCain, they may relax and let him try to carry it out. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 5:45:10 AM |
It seems somewhat ironic to me that if this article is true, wouldn't printing an article about it, defeat the purpose of 'covert' operations? Unless of course, it's just a mindf**k on the Iranians.
My thoughts, as well.
Something really covert doesn't get published, unless everything hits the fan and there's no way to deny it. Even dissenting military people won't speak to a reporter about it, because they know it's going to mean people in their brotherhood are going to get killed , wounded, or captured.
If people were on the ground there, in the types of operations that are being mentioned - I'd say we'd never hear a word about it.
It may just be a means of keeping the pressure on the Iranians, and forcing them to divert resources they could be using elsewhere. It could also force people to use means of contact that are being monitored, to see who's saying what to whom.
It could also be a prelude to keeping Iranian resources busy on the mission, without any hope of finding or doing anything productive, until they "get used to it" and start to relax. At that point the next part of the plan would be triggered - whatever that is.  | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 6:21:29 AM |
Something really covert doesn't get published, unless everything hits the fan and there's no way to deny it. Even dissenting military people won't speak to a reporter about it, because they know it's going to mean people in their brotherhood are going to get killed , wounded, or captured.
That's not entirely the case. You're overlooking the fact that things cost money. Even though the pentagon doesn't operate on the same year to year budgeting schedule that every other government agency runs on (it makes the numbers not look so bad on paper), they still have oversight. Between FOIA and all the oversight agencies looking at them, it doesn't require some sort of rogue general leaking information to the press. It just requires that somebody who's job is to pay attention to this stuff, pays attention to this stuff.
That alone wouldn't be terribly much information though. So what happens is the pentagon gives briefings and reports about large parts of this stuff or leaks a more favorable interpretation of what's going on. Because journalists don't really do the whole "journalism" thing anymore. They are part of the entertainment industry and only exist to sell us their product (there is a court ruling in re:FOX News that actually states that news channels don't have to be truthful because they are entertainment). So, if the pentagon doesn't get their side of a story out there, somebody is going to make something up. This isn't early in the Cold War, the news doesn't consider it their job to keep things secret for the "good of the country."
On a somewhat unrelated note. Why can't we just get along? Why do we have to go out of our way to just start poking emotionally unstable foreign dictators in the eyes? If we were a second grader who just ran around picking on bullies until they hit us, just so we'd get in less trouble when we beat the ever living crap out of them, teachers would very quickly realize we're the bigger bully. On top of that, nobody on the playground would like us anymore. Eventually, that second grader will grow up and realize what he's doing is making his life miserable and stop doing it. Then, we he transfers to a middle school he'll act differently so as not to get the same reputation. Why can't we learn that? Do we need to hire a 4th grader to beat up Bush or something? | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 7:53:55 AM |
Iran's Ahmadinejad issues new threats against Israel, U.S.
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BY ADAM NICHOLS DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Sunday, September 23rd 2007, 4:00 AM Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ahmadinejad (3rd from left on dais) looks at anti-Israel and anti-U.S. slogans on jeeps yesterday. Iranian leaders made a show of their military might, including this Fateh 110 missile. On the eve of his trip to New York City, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood before a banner blaring "Death to America," showed off his military might and declared his extremist regime will not bow to Western pressure.
"Those who think, that by using such decayed tools as psychological warfare and economic sanctions, they can stop the Iranian nation's progress are making a mistake," Ahmadinejad said yesterday outside of Tehran.
As the hatemonger spoke, a parade of anti-aircraft guns, missiles and military hardware moved before him. Three jet fighters flew overhead.
In a menacing move, Ahmadinejad's military henchmen said the medium-range missiles could reach Israel and U.S. bases in the Gulf.
Ahmadinejad, who is coming to New York to address the United Nations General Assembly, is expected to land at Kennedy Airport today.
The White House and U.S. military leaders have accused Iran of supplying training and weapons to terrorists who are attacking and killing U.S. troops in Iraq.
Large protests will greet Ahmadinejad - an accused terrorist, Holocaust denier and member of the Axis of Evil - when he speaks at Columbia University on Monday and when he addresses the UN Tuesday.
Ahmadinejad sparked outrage last week by requesting an official tour of Ground Zero. The proposed visit, which was promptly rejected by the NYPD, sickened victims' relatives and U.S. leaders.
Ahmadinejad said he was "amazed" by the negative reaction. But he has said he will abandon his plans to lay a wreath on the hallowed ground where nearly 3,000 people were killed by terrorists - an attack he has suggested was an inside job carried out by U.S. intelligence agents.
Columbia has refused to cancel Ahmadinejad's appearance at its School of International and Public Affairs. University President Lee Bollinger has vowed to challenge Ahmadinejad on his denial of the Holocaust, his alleged sponsorship of terrorism, his pursuit of nuclear weapons and the imprisonment of journalists and scholars in Iran.
But several political leaders and religious groups have slammed Columbia for inviting the madman to mouth off.
"Anyone who supports terror, pledges to destroy a sovereign nation [Israel], punishes by death anyone who 'insults' religion ... denies the Holocaust and thumbs his nose at the international community has no legitimate role to play at a university," Catholic League President Bill Donohue said.
The State Department has issued Ahmadinejad an extremely restrictive C-2 visa. It lasts 29 days and the holder must remain within a 25-mile radius of Columbus Circle.
The NYPD and a Secret Service detail will accompany Ahmadinejad during his visit - and protect him despite his repeated threats against the U.S.
At the military parade in Iran yesterday, the head of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, Mohammad Ali Jafari, said Western powers would regret it if they attacked the Islamic republic over Tehran's nuclear activities.
"They will regret it, as they are regretting it in Iraq," Jafari said.
Asked how Iran would respond if a neighboring country let its territory be used to launch attacks, Jafari said, "You have seen the missiles - just pull the trigger and shoot."
anichols@nydailynews.com
This is a country that has no gay people as told by Ahmadineejad....why? because their killed when it's discovered. For anyone to live in a fantasy world of make believe that this mad man is not a threat to the US and Israel is simply out of touch with reality.
Furthermore this country supports Terrorism and funds efforts to kill Americans! and publicly brags of doing so! Are they a threat? well the UN... EU.....France and many other countries think so.... The only ones who don't are those who get their news from You Tube and college professors The Uninformed | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 10:51:18 AM |
What are they going to do?! Kill their leader and have him replaced by someone far worse...
They are trying to discover something they can use to cause another 'regime change' and use it to feed the ditto heads for regurgitating back onto the masses for justification. It's much easier to infiltrate the target country and find the radical dissenters and arm them to do our 'dirty work' for us.
If we don't create a good excuse for going to war beforehand, we'll look worse than we already do to the world. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 5:54:10 PM |
It seems somewhat ironic to me that if this article is true, wouldn't printing an article about it, defeat the purpose of 'covert' operations?
... i'm somehow reminded of Valarie Plame...
more from sy -
Preparing the Battlefield The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran. by Seymour M. Hersh July 7, 2008
Operations outside the knowledge and control of commanders have eroded “the coherence of military strategy,” one general says.
L ate last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership. The covert activities involve support of the minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations. They also include gathering intelligence about Iran’s suspected nuclear-weapons program.
Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of “high-value targets” in the President’s war on terror, who may be captured or killed. But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded, according to the current and former officials. Many of these activities are not specified in the new Finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature.
Under federal law, a Presidential Finding, which is highly classified, must be issued when a covert intelligence operation gets under way and, at a minimum, must be made known to Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and the Senate and to the ranking members of their respective intelligence committees—the so-called Gang of Eight. Money for the operation can then be reprogrammed from previous appropriations, as needed, by the relevant congressional committees, which also can be briefed.
“The Finding was focussed on undermining Iran’s nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change,” a person familiar with its contents said, and involved “working with opposition groups and passing money.” The Finding provided for a whole new range of activities in southern Iran and in the areas, in the east, where Baluchi political opposition is strong, he said.
Although some legislators were troubled by aspects of the Finding, and “there was a significant amount of high-level discussion” about it, according to the source familiar with it, the funding for the escalation was approved. In other words, some members of the Democratic leadership—Congress has been under Democratic control since the 2006 elections—were willing, in secret, to go along with the Administration in expanding covert activities directed at Iran, while the Party’s presumptive candidate for President, Barack Obama, has said that he favors direct talks and diplomacy.
The request for funding came in the same period in which the Administration was coming to terms with a National Intelligence Estimate, released in December, that concluded that Iran had halted its work on nuclear weapons in 2003. The Administration downplayed the significance of the N.I.E., and, while saying that it was committed to diplomacy, continued to emphasize that urgent action was essential to counter the Iranian nuclear threat. President Bush questioned the N.I.E.’s conclusions, and senior national-security officials, including Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, made similar statements. (So did Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee.) Meanwhile, the Administration also revived charges that the Iranian leadership has been involved in the killing of American soldiers in Iraq: both directly, by dispatching commando units into Iraq, and indirectly, by supplying materials used for roadside bombs and other lethal goods. (There have been questions about the accuracy of the claims; the Times, among others, has reported that “significant uncertainties remain about the extent of that involvement.”)
Military and civilian leaders in the Pentagon share the White House’s concern about Iran’s nuclear ambitions, but there is disagreement about whether a military strike is the right solution. Some Pentagon officials believe, as they have let Congress and the media know, that bombing Iran is not a viable response to the nuclear-proliferation issue, and that more diplomacy is necessary.
A Democratic senator told me that, late last year, in an off-the-record lunch meeting, Secretary of Defense Gates met with the Democratic caucus in the Senate. (Such meetings are held regularly.) Gates warned of the consequences if the Bush Administration staged a preëmptive strike on Iran, saying, as the senator recalled, “We’ll create generations of jihadists, and our grandchildren will be battling our enemies here in America.” Gates’s comments stunned the Democrats at the lunch, and another senator asked whether Gates was speaking for Bush and Vice-President****Cheney. Gates’s answer, the senator told me, was “Let’s just say that I’m here speaking for myself.” (A spokesman for Gates confirmed that he discussed the consequences of a strike at the meeting, but would not address what he said, other than to dispute the senator’s characterization.)
The Joint Chiefs of Staff, whose chairman is Admiral Mike Mullen, were “pushing back very hard” against White House pressure to undertake a military strike against Iran, the person familiar with the Finding told me. Similarly, a Pentagon consultant who is involved in the war on terror said that “at least ten senior flag and general officers, including combatant commanders”—the four-star officers who direct military operations around the world—“have weighed in on that issue.”
The most outspoken of those officers is Admiral William Fallon, who until recently was the head of U.S. Central Command, and thus in charge of American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. In March, Fallon resigned under pressure, after giving a series of interviews stating his reservations about an armed attack on Iran. For example, late last year he told the Financial Times that the “real objective” of U.S. policy was to change the Iranians’ behavior, and that “attacking them as a means to get to that spot strikes me as being not the first choice.” | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 6:35:33 PM | Hersh has done a lot of good reporting over the years, but investigative reporters, including Hersh, sometimes get it wrong.
He's been wrong on Iran before. A few years ago, Hersh and Scott Ritter had me and others believing that an invasion of Iran was imminent. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 6:41:12 PM | There seems to be a simple solution to the Iran "problem" (if in fact there is one) unless I'm missing something. Simply condition the extinguishing of sanctions against Iran on granting unconditional access to any and all nuke facilities in Iran. Our government has already said Iran is entitled (as should any country who can) to use nuclear power for electrical power (which they might in fact really need because even their oil won't last forever).
The United States and its allies have accused Iran of trying to develop nuclear weapons under the cover of a civilian nuclear program. Iran has denied the U.S. charges, insisting that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-06/30/content_8466393.htm
So if it's ONLY electrical power they want, let a U.N. inspection team in there any time. End of story. If Iran refuses, THEN we'll have something to talk about (i.e. they really DO want to develop nuclear weapons). That way we'll have much more credibility before the U.N. and the world if we have to bring more pressure to bear.
What I see is Ahmadinejad playing the same gambit Saddam played in allowing us (and the rest of the world) to THINK he had WMD and when we couldn't pin him down to shrubs liking through the AIEA, then it's a setup for war and nothing else. Looks and sounds like a familiar ploy. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 6:48:21 PM | http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh
Seymour Hersh says that the black ops are operating in Iran RIGHT NOW, there has been a spike in violence within Iran, they are working with dissident groups there, etc. and the idea is to create enough chaos and provoke Iran enough to make a case for an invasion.
It sounds pretty insane. Oh, and Cheney is directing it all.....
All so we can bankrupt our country, financially and morally, and get really, really expensive gasoline..... $25, do I hear $50 a gallon? Got an afternoon to spend in line at the gas station?  | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 6:59:43 PM | @Crash
Don't get me wrong, sir; I'm not questioning the credentials of the reporter; in fact, it is my understanding, that Mr. Hersh is perhaps one of the few remaining 'credible' journalists remaining in your country. It just seems odd to report on something that should remain 'secret'.
(from the second article you posted)
Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of “high-value targets” in the President’s war on terror, who may be captured or killed. But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded, according to the current and former officials. Many of these activities are not specified in the new Finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature.
(from another article posted in this thread)
The White House and U.S. military leaders have accused Iran of supplying training and weapons to terrorists who are attacking and killing U.S. troops in Iraq.
Setting morality aside for a minute; what is the difference in these two statements?
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 7:52:05 PM |
they are working with dissident groups there, etc. and the idea is to create enough chaos and provoke Iran enough to make a case for an invasion
Geeeez. Didn't we do this before by installing the Shah? And look how well that worked out. When oh when is this country going to learn to mind it's own damned business. We have so many problems here (enough to concern us for the next hundred years) that we should have NO time, energy, money, dead soldiers to start this adventurism again. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 8:18:47 PM | Iran does let in IAEA inspectors. They don't allow it "at any time" but instead they offer windows and require notice, exactly like the US.
And when you look around, even the US intelligence agencies know that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. The only reason there is any traction on this is because the average person doesn't know a single fact: enriching uranium to power grade and weapons grade are two completely different things. 2% enrichment versus 80% enrichment. On top of the fact that when you look, there is a big difference in those numbers, the technology used to enrich uranium at low levels doesn't scale up very well and Iran doesn't have the technology to do it the "better" way. It is still possible to do it though, it just requires abhorrent amounts of time and energy. Enough so that it won't legitimately be possible for a decade. And as long as they are letting in inspectors, and are sloppy enough for the US intelligence community to get in, we'll know ahead of time.
And Saddam didn't let us think that. He said repeatedly he didn't, let the UN look around, and the UN said, no there isn't anything there. Yet we just went LA LA LA LA and covered our ears saying things about 9-11 and what not. But it does sound like a familiar ploy. The Bush admin convinced the American people that someone Bush disliked is a dangerous bad guy. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 8:30:29 PM | http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/US/story?id=5281043&page=1
Pentagon Official Warns of Israeli Attack on Iran U.S. Offical Sees Two 'Red Lines' That Could Prompt Strike
BY JONATHAN KARL WASHINGTON, June 30, 2008
Senior Pentagon officials are concerned that Israel could carry out an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities before the end of the year, an action that would have enormous security and economic repercussions for the United States and the rest of the world.
A senior defense official told ABC News there is an "increasing likelihood" that Israel will carry out such an attack, a move that likely would prompt Iranian retaliation against, not just Israel, but against the United States as well.
The official identified two "red lines" that could trigger an Israeli offensive. The first is tied to when Iran's Natanz nuclear facility produces enough highly enriched uranium to make a nuclear weapon. According to the latest U.S. and Israeli intelligence assessments, that is likely to happen sometime in 2009, and could happen by the end of this year.
"The red line is not when they get to that point, but before they get to that point," the official said. "We are in the window of vulnerability."
The second red line is connected to when Iran acquires the SA-20 air defense system it is buying from Russia. The Israelis may want to strike before that system -- which would make an attack much more difficult -- is put in place.
Some Pentagon officials also worry that Israel may be determined to attack before a new U.S. president, who may be less supportive, is sworn in next January.
Pentagon officials believe the massive Israeli air force exercise in early June, first reported by the New York Times, was done to prepare for a possible attack. A senior official called it "not a rehearsal, but basic, fundamental training" required to launch an operation against Iran.
"The Israeli air force has already conducted the basic exercise necessary to tell their senior leadership, 'We have the fundamentals down.' Might they need some more training and rehearsals? Yes. But have they done the fundamentals? I think that is what we saw," the official told ABC News, adding that if Israel moves closer to military action, he expects to see more exercises like the one conducted in early June.
The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, was in Israel over the weekend for a series of meetings with senior Israeli military officials, including, Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi, the chief of staff of the Israeli Defense Forces. According to a military spokesman, Iran's nuclear program was "a major topic" of discussion.
The widely held view among Pentagon officials is that an Israeli attack would do only temporary damage to Iran's nuclear program, and that it would cause major problems in the region and beyond, prompting a wave of attacks on U.S. interests in Iraq, the Persian Gulf and elsewhere. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 8:36:49 PM |
The only reason there is any traction on this is because the average person doesn't know a single fact:
Exactly my point. The masses are asses (or have been).
Pentagon officials believe the massive Israeli air force exercise in early June, first reported by the New York Times, was done to prepare for a possible attack. A senior official called it "not a rehearsal, but basic, fundamental training" required to launch an operation against Iran.
When will these neanderthals learn that you can't solve problems with bullets? Well, that too was rhetorical. I'm sure the pentagon is giving them the go ahead. But I'd be willing to bet Lieberman is right there cheering them on. | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 8:44:17 PM | | lol...anything other than daily kos is suspect and the hero of the left, Lieberman, in the Gore 2000 is suspect because he won't go along with Move on, daily kos, or huffington post. The whole democrat party is turning into the dom-ocrat party...either do what we say or we will punish you...get the whip!!! | |
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| An Increase In Covert Ops Against Iran? Posted: 6/30/2008 10:02:46 PM |
I really don't think this information about Covert Ops should be out in the public.
Neither do I, which is why it seems suspicious; couple that with the Israeli 'exercise' earlier this month, which also probably shouldn't have been 'reported on', but was. There was a huge deal awhile back about the media 'outing' Prince Harry in Afghanistan; yet, no one appears to have an issue with these recent reports. It seems fishy; I dunno, I'm just sayin...
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