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 redee2tryagain

Joined: 9/13/2006
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He is only 15 years old, but what a thing to ask for...........
Posted: 7/1/2008 1:30:18 PM
My 15 year old has asked me to buy him a stab/bullet proof vest....how awful is that..

I have tried to explain to him, that by buying such a thing it could actually make him a target, with people wanting to see how effective it is....

It could also of course have the effect, that he will think he is invincible, and actually initate trouble thinking the "vest" will somehow save him for all things......

He of course can't see the bigger picture and where this might lead...

With so many youngster being attacked and killed, it is truely becoming a frightening world out there for our children...

If things got any worse, (thou at the moment, it seems bad enough) would you buy some sort of protection for your child? or leave it well alone, and hope it never happens...........?

Views please............
 BoredDavid

Joined: 5/30/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 1:33:14 PM
Get him a bigger knife and sum lessons to fight back and win...........
 mofwtmy

Joined: 4/18/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 1:36:01 PM
YDY ..........................

(Why Don't You! - remember?), tell him to get of the couch, stop watching TV and go out and do something less boring instead?

Is he is influenced by TV viewing in this request - media spin, or is it life experience that makes him ask such an unusual request?


Think your approach is spot on though!
 Bubblie70

Joined: 10/31/2007
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Posted: 7/1/2008 1:47:30 PM
I think i would look at why he has asked for this, is he being bullied for example, or does he think his life is in danger for some reason ???
 andrew_charlton87

Joined: 6/7/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 1:48:44 PM
Buy him one of these:

http://www.weaponsblog.org/images/professional-grade-jin-roh_58.jpg
 TallGraham

Joined: 4/5/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 1:59:38 PM
Oh dear! That must be a bit worrying.

People don't often say when they are being bullied. I never did all the way through secondary school. Much to everyones disgust when they found out later on.

If he is concerned for his safety then maybe suggest some self defence classes. Wing Tsung is a very good martial art for this as it is not as aggresive as Karate or kick boxing. One of my friends is one of the highest instructors in the UK for Wing Tsung, I think there are only 8 above him or something like that. I've been to classes and they are more about fitness and defence.
 willow

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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:13:59 PM
Its a terrible thing that your child feels he needs to have such an item, but why has he asked for it in the first place.

I would be more concerned to the reason why he has asked, do you live in a knife crime area, etc.
 redee2tryagain

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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:15:12 PM
Yes he does watch TV, but he also goes out.............and I think that is what he is worrying about........

No by todays standards it's probably quite a nice area............and I know he is not being bullied...

Not many of these kids stabbed seemed to have been out causing or getting into trouble............

He has done self defence, but is that going to be enough when there is a crowd and normally it's the one standing behind you, who gets you.......

I think I would prefer he stayed on the couch....it seems a lot safer sometimes.......
 Hot and cold

Joined: 10/6/2007
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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:18:05 PM
Bit of molly-coddling with cotton wool is what I would go for. May rob them of their fun teenage years (if you call that fun), but at least there's a good chance of them living to an adult life.
 TallGraham

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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:19:17 PM

He has done self defence, but is that going to be enough when there is a crowd and normally it's the one standing behind you, who gets you.......


Yes I promise you that proper self defence will help. If taught properly it's all about being aware of your surroundings and moving in such a way that you don't get surrounded. Most self defence involves a lot of running away, which is very sensible in todays society. Hence all the fitness training they do.

Only as a last ditch effort do you fight to save yourself. I'm sure my friend will know an instructor local to you if you wanted to know more. If so them please feel free to PM me. As someone who got bullied through my teens I'd hate to see it happen to someone else.
 andrew_charlton87

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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:23:34 PM
He's probably just been watching too much 24 and wants to kill some terrorists.

Buy him an Ak-47 instead.
 Geordie Colin

Joined: 5/27/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:25:23 PM
Damn,this frightens me.thankfully at the moment my girls feel safe enough.
As a mum do you not feel that you should take steps in passifying there fears that your forcefull mothering will not turn into violence?
 mofwtmy

Joined: 4/18/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:26:48 PM
Yes I promise you that proper self defence will help. If taught properly it's all about being aware of your surroundings and moving in such a way that you don't get surrounded. Most self defence involves a lot of running away, which is very sensible in todays society. Hence all the fitness training they do.


Got to take a contrary stance here, Indulge me.....


I was the second youngest Ju-Jitsu Black Belt in the UK. How proud was I?
Just gone up to high school.
My local paper did the full back page on me, pic doing a flying kick......Came out on the Wednesday.
Thursday lunch time at school, I got the biggest kicking of my life - it seemed all the bigger kids wanted to fight 'Honk Kong Phoey!'

As for running away, rarely works - I was taught from an early age that the buggers can out run me!

No easy answers here.

Make sure he has a mobile phone when he goes out, he knows the emergency service number and you know where he is.

It's a different world today.

Could it be as simple as he wants one cos he thinks they look 'cool?'
 gladitssummer

Joined: 4/26/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:28:31 PM
you obviously know that buying a stab vest isnt the answer, self defence might help with confidence and with any time when he is confronted. Ultimately he like everyone, is living in a risky world, more risky than some places , less risky than others. you need to talk to him about how to minimse risk, stay away or avoid risky situations as much as is practical. there isnt an easy solution and any parent will share your concerns.
with regard to the self defence, it would boost his confidence so that would be a god starting point.
 TallGraham

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Posted: 7/1/2008 2:42:27 PM

Got to take a contrary stance here, Indulge me.....


I was the second youngest Ju-Jitsu Black Belt in the UK. How proud was I?
Just gone up to high school.
My local paper did the full back page on me, pic doing a flying kick......Came out on the Wednesday.
Thursday lunch time at school, I got the biggest kicking of my life - it seemed all the bigger kids wanted to fight 'Honk Kong Phoey!'

As for running away, rarely works - I was taught from an early age that the buggers can out run me!

No easy answers here.

Make sure he has a mobile phone when he goes out, he knows the emergency service number and you know where he is.

It's a different world today.

Could it be as simple as he wants one cos he thinks they look 'cool?'


Crikey, well after what you went through then I don't blame you for having a different stance on what I said.

Congratulations on what you achieved though. I hope you were proud. You should be.

I think your situation was a little different though as it was splashed all over the papers. They may as well have just put a big target and a neon sign on you.

I was lucky in the fact that I could always run fast. But as long as you can run, the decent self defence people teach you about that too. It's not how fast you run it's all about where you run too. Like into the middle of the nearest busy shop. Always run to where there are people, and never down places you don't know where there could be blind alleys etc.
 roger_roger

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Posted: 7/1/2008 3:22:59 PM
I think.......that........perhaps it would...................be a good idea............cause then it would................protect him if he gets stabbed..........no one need know he's wearing it..........if he gets a covert one.............
 MrJohnnyB

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Posted: 7/1/2008 3:49:15 PM
Jus tell him to join a gang. Gang culture is cool mmm k? Id be more worried as to why he wants one, I'd only ask for one if I knew/thought strongly I may well get stabbed!
 fluffyluv

Joined: 6/18/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 4:20:17 PM
omg. one suggestion. Get the heck away from where you are living, and be safe. Take care
 BoredDavid

Joined: 5/30/2008
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Posted: 7/4/2008 5:16:44 PM
Remember, Guns dont kill people Rabbits do...........................

Bring a gun carry law into the UK and get a big gun.
U will be safe.
Just look at Dirty Harry he was!!
Watch this, get a gun today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujfFSW9074c
 Toby

Joined: 7/17/2006
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Posted: 7/4/2008 5:27:38 PM
Isnt there a company making hoodies lined with kevlar to make em stab proof couldnt u get him one of those?
 nortyraskull

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Posted: 7/4/2008 7:07:27 PM
Stab/bulletproof vests are becoming a fashion accessory in certain circles, I know you say its not a rough area that you live in, but well to do/middle to upper class areas are a target for the criminal element, perhaps a little bit of monitoring of the people he is meeting or knocking around with may be the way forward?
 funpete123

Joined: 5/25/2008
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Posted: 7/4/2008 10:26:00 PM
stab vests are one of the most uncomfortable things to wear buy him one bet he stops wearing it in a week!!!
 Saturdays_Child

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Posted: 7/5/2008 1:29:51 AM
A person wearing a stab vest can be stabbed in other places on their body and face, which leaves them injured and weak and consequently vulnerable for more attack. A vest isn't the be all and end all in body protection.
 BoredDavid

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Posted: 7/6/2008 7:28:07 AM
Alternatively make him stop in all the time and get friends online and get his life skills form Wikipedia and sex experience from dirtysally.com and he will evolve into a nice odd lad who stays at home till he is 56 them marry a 70yr old.

Or get him a gun and let him see life
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