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Posted: 7/6/2008 9:03:18 PM | | Hey guys, also ladies, how important is the height discrepancy? Guys, have you gone out with a woman who was taller? Do you feel uncomfortable looking up? Ladies, the other question: have you gone out with a guy shorter than you? And this: guys, are you lying about your height online? I'm only five eight, I shouldn't be eye level with somebody who says he's five eleven! | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 7:14:36 PM | Many guys lie about their height because male height is very important to women but female height is not important to men. So they lie in order to increase their chances.
Most men do not care if their woman is taller than them.
Also, why use the term "height discrepancy"? Does the "discrepancy" only refer to women who are taller than men or does it also refer to men who are taller than women? People simply come in different heights and that has no meaning other than what other people give it.
Oh, and I personally do not feel uncomfortable looking up to a woman. Why would I? Though, very few women are taller than me without four inch heels.
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Posted: 7/9/2008 3:11:56 AM | I don't think I'd have a problem dating a woman who is taller than me. At 5'5" it probably wouldn't help much if I did.  | |
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Posted: 7/10/2008 8:35:21 AM | | This is a good one for me to answer. I'm 5'11 1/2. I've always gravitated towards dating men that are taller than myself. It does limit the pool of men that are out there for me....but it is what it is. I've gone out with plenty of men that say they are 6' tall...and they are shorter than me. I'm here to tell you that men lie about their height, no question. When it comes down to it...it seems to me that most people seem to fudge the facts in one way or another in their profiles...just like on the resume! The plain truth doesn't always seem to be good enough for many. | |
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Posted: 7/10/2008 5:08:56 PM | | see...I think lying about something like your height is silly. People are going to see how tall you are when they meet you. | |
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Posted: 7/10/2008 7:32:29 PM | ^^^
True. But by that same logic...it doesn't matter if you lie about your height because the people who would reject you for being your natural height are the same people who wouldn't even give you a chance upon reading your real height. Therefore, you've lost nothing by lying and you've gained an opportunity by lying.
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Posted: 7/10/2008 7:34:44 PM |
The plain truth doesn't always seem to be good enough for many.
Are you talking about the liars or the people doing the rejecting?
I don't see any evidence that people (i.e., men) lie about their height because they dislike their natural height. They do so because some women will dislike their natural height. And if the guy is very short, a LOT of women will dislike their natural height and so they gain opportunities by lying about their height.
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Posted: 7/10/2008 10:23:44 PM | | I think that we can see here that women continue to base their femininity on the height of the man they are with and are unable to feel feminine on there own. They need outward forces to support something that should come from within. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 9:12:14 AM | | lying online is stupid , and besides being dishonest where is it going to get you ? If your starting everything off with a lie ( by lying about how tall / short you are ) you set everything up to be based on lies , which is the setting up anything meaningful that could have been to be doomed to failure from the get go. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 5:22:58 PM | ^^^
Which makes perfect sense if you're 6'1".
But what if you're a guy and you're 5'4" or even 5'7". In that case, most of those women would breeze past your profile anyway, so what does it matter if you lie? Sure, you are setting up anything meaningful to be doomed...but there wouldn't have even been "anything" to get doomed at all if you had been honest. So it's a wash with a slight advantage to the lie.
Because if a short man lies about his height, at least there is an off chance at meeting a woman who isn't hung up on his height. If the woman rejects him because he lied about his height, then she wouldn't have chosen him if she knew his real height anyway...so he's lost nothing, but gained an outside chance at finding a special lady.
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Posted: 7/13/2008 2:51:24 PM | Lying about height is negating the expectation we have when we meet people. I don’t care how short or tall a man is, but when I read that someone is 6’3”, I expect to meet a man who is taller than me (5’11.5”). If you’re 5’8”, that’s fine if I know upfront that you are shorter than me.
It’s like going to a restaurant and being told I’m getting steak for dinner but get served chicken instead. Its not that chicken is bad, it’s just that I was looking forward to, and expecting, steak. | |
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Posted: 7/13/2008 4:15:43 PM | | And really it's a little bit dishonest and I think that's a poor way to start off a relationship with someone. | |
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Posted: 7/13/2008 4:43:44 PM | | At 6 ft my preference is men 6'2 -6'4 . For me....I rarely have an attraction to a man shorter than me. For those that lie...its rude. I do not like dishonesty nor do I like having my time wasted | |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 7:05:55 PM |
Lying about height is negating the expectation we have when we meet people. I don’t care how short or tall a man is, but when I read that someone is 6’3”, I expect to meet a man who is taller than me (5’11.5”). If you’re 5’8”, that’s fine if I know upfront that you are shorter than me.
It’s like going to a restaurant and being told I’m getting steak for dinner but get served chicken instead. Its not that chicken is bad, it’s just that I was looking forward to, and expecting, steak.
This is true, but you must be a very special lady. Most women pass over profiles of men who are shorter than some height requirement. Most women actually do think that shorter men (and especially short men) are "bad" or at least much worse than tall men.
So you can at least understand why a short man would lie about his height. By doing so, he will attract women who don't care if he is short or not....he will also attract women who might prefer taller men but not require them. Of course, he will also attract women who hate short men, but those women wouldn't have paid any attention to his profile if he had told the truth anyway, so they are a wash.
The only type of women that lying hurts him with are the women who don't care about height but highly value honesty. These women are extremely rare though.
Most women wouldn't care if a man claimed to be 5'7" and showed up to the date as 6'1"....but most women WOULD care if a man claimed to be 6'1" and showed up to the date as 5'7". Therefore, it's not the honesty that matters....it's the height. And smart short guys know this and you can't really blame them for lying about it.
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Posted: 7/16/2008 7:08:04 PM |
At 6 ft my preference is men 6'2 -6'4 . For me....I rarely have an attraction to a man shorter than me. For those that lie...its rude. I do not like dishonesty nor do I like having my time wasted
You may not like it, but those men don't owe you anything. They don't owe you the truth any more than you owe them your attraction. It's O.K. that you aren't attracted to shorter men, and it's O.K. that men lie about their height.
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Posted: 7/17/2008 8:54:11 AM | | I don't believe there's anything to be gained by lying. I also think that when you put a "Slot" on height you miss out on a lot of good people. I've gone out with women shorter and taller than me. The ones that were taller were very self-assured and confessed that they had never really dated a shorter guy until I came along. So it all comes down to giving people a chance IMO. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:09:43 AM | [No one owes anyone anything. ]
Very untrue, everyone owes everyone honesty and respect! | |
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:26:34 AM |
Very untrue, everyone owes everyone honesty and respect!
Nope.
respect has to be earned, and you shouldn't put your trust in complete strangers.
Otherwise, we run into the strange double standard in which short men owe women honesty, but women don't owe short men a chance. Or, a standard in which fat women owe men complete honesty about how much they weigh, but men don't owe fat women a chance.
It's better to say that no one owes anyone anything. That keeps everything consistent.
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Posted: 7/17/2008 5:44:58 PM | ^^^
Typical ad hominem and a poorly worded one at best.
I agree no one is entitled to respect. respect must be earned as for honesty no one is entitled to that either
a complete stranger does not owe you honesty or respect
a complete stranger does not owe you anything get use to it.
just because you demand something does not mean you are entitled to it. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2008 7:17:14 PM | Dear Lord...I do hope the 2 of you are the exception
To anyone else reading this thread
How bout it?? | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 12:11:45 AM | ^^^^
The exception?
I'm not saying that I lie about my height. I don't need to lie about my height because I am of a height that very few woman would reject me because of it. My point was that it makes a lot of sense for short men to lie about their height because so many woman would reject them automatically otherwise.
And I don't think it is any more "immoral" to lie about your height than it is "immoral" to reject another person based on his height. So, it's a wash and I don't see how there is anything wrong with men lying about their height. By doing so, they increase there opportunities because many more women are willing to give men who are taller than "X" a chance than are willing to give men who are shorter than "X" a chance.
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Posted: 7/18/2008 9:54:24 AM | "Dear Lord...I do hope the 2 of you are the exception"
brace yourself for disapointment we're not. if you believe a complete stranger who you were going to reject anyway for a trait he has no control over owes you honesty and respect you clearly have an overdeveloped sense of entitlement in that case Paris Hilton and her ilk are that way ______>
You reject him for something he has no control over and he lies to you so they both cancel eachother out, I however am not lying about being 5'7'' because A I'm not here for dating and B even if I was I'd still rather tell the truth about my height so I can weed out all the shallow ones.
it's fine if you're not attracted to short men but trust me they don't owe you anything. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 2:03:13 PM | | I just think that it's silly to start off meeting someone by being dishonest. I was always taught you speak your mind, speak the truth, be a straight shooter. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. Respect means having manners. Respect means saying Please and Thank You. Respect means saying Excuse Me if you bump in to someone. If you go through life with the attitude that you don't deserve to show people common courtesy then don't expect it from anyone else. Not lying I think is simple courtesy. I'd hope that the ladies on here would be as honest about themselves as I am about myself. If we start off without telling the truth about ourselves then I don't think any relationship has much of a chance on those foundations. Call me old fashioned if you want to. That's the way I see it. | |
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