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Posted: 7/7/2008 11:43:26 PM
Toddlers who dislike spicy food 'racist'

By Rosa Prince, Political Correspondent
Last Updated: 10:15AM BST 07/07/2008
Toddlers who turn their noses up at spicy food from overseas could be branded racists by a Government-sponsored agency.
The National Children's Bureau, which receives £12 million a year, mainly from Government funded organisations, has issued guidance to play leaders and nursery teachers advising them to be alert for racist incidents among youngsters in their care.

This could include a child of as young as three who says "yuk" in response to being served unfamiliar foreign food.

The guidance by the NCB is designed to draw attention to potentially-racist attitudes in youngsters from a young age.

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It alerts playgroup leaders that even babies can not be ignored in the drive to root out prejudice as they can "recognise different people in their lives".

The 366-page guide for staff in charge of pre-school children, called Young Children and Racial Justice, warns: "Racist incidents among children in early years settings tend to be around name-calling, casual thoughtless comments and peer group relationships."

It advises nursery teachers to be on the alert for childish abuse such as: "blackie", "Pakis", "those people" or "they smell".

The guide goes on to warn that children might also "react negatively to a culinary tradition other than their own by saying 'yuk'".

Staff are told: "No racist incident should be ignored. When there is a clear racist incident, it is necessary to be specific in condemning the action."

Warning that failing to pick children up on their racist attitudes could instil prejudice, the NCB adds that if children "reveal negative attitudes, the lack of censure may indicate to the child that there is nothing unacceptable about such attitudes".

Nurseries are encouraged to report as many incidents as possible to their local council. The guide added: "Some people think that if a large number of racist incidents are reported, this will reflect badly on the institution. In fact, the opposite is the case."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/education/2261307/Toddlers-who-dislike-spicy-food-racist%2C-say-report.html

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I cannot be the only one who thinks this is ridiculous.
 nexthyme

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Posted: 7/7/2008 11:55:01 PM
OMGOSH, you have got to be kidding me...

My oldest is half hispanic, she has hated anything spicy since I started feeding her solids... That is the craziest thing I have heard, especially since my oldest is NOT racist against anyone.

Someone in the government has a major screw loose...
 CharlesEdm

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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:18:08 AM
I want to see some independent confirmation of this, because it is nuts, and we've gotten all pissed off with this kind of thing in the past and later found out it was nothing of the sort.
 Wherefore Art Thou?

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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:34:19 AM
It's worth pointing out for those who fail to notice the web address of the article, this is not in the United States.


"# Britain's No.1 quality newspaper website"


I hope those British childcare workers and teachers also get some training on how to deal with the parents of the children who display "racist" attitudes. That could get a bit tricky!
 mfrotyl

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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:36:07 AM


And what "Toddler" ever eats everything on his/her plate???

They are all racist???



Okay I feel much better now.......................

So what happens when a toddler will not eat "non-spicey" food???

Quick lock them all up for life, before they commit a "hate" crime....LOL
 Wherefore Art Thou?

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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:43:42 AM
This is a related article on the same website:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/education/2258882/Schools-used-for-%27social-engineering%27%2C-claims-headteacher.html

Schools used for 'social engineering', claims headteacher
By Graeme Paton, Education Editor
Last Updated: 6:34AM BST 07/07/2008
Teachers are being turned into "social workers and surrogate parents" under Labour, according to the headteacher of the country's most popular school.
Rod MacKinnon, the head of Bexley Grammar School
JONATHAN LODGE
Rod MacKinnon: children need to be nurtured, educated and cared for, not thrown into the frontline of social reform

A leading headmaster who is leaving one of the most popular schools in the state system to work in the private sector has accused the Government of turning teachers into "social workers and surrogate parents".

Rod MacKinnon, the head of Bexley Grammar School, south-east London, said schools were being forced to shun traditional lessons as ministers manipulated the education system for the purposes of "social engineering".

He said schools "cannot solve all of society's ills" and should be left to teach.

His comments came just days after ministers published new guidance requiring schools to monitor obesity rates, drug taking and teenage pregnancy as part of a new duty to promote pupil "wellbeing".

According to figures obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, Bexley Grammar is the most sought-after school in England. Last year, 1,927 parents named it as their first choice – for just 192 spare places. It means the school rejected nine pupils for every one it admitted.

It emerged that four of the 10 most popular schools were grammars and two were faith-based schools, indicating that a strong emphasis on academic rigour and traditional values were highly rated by families.

Mr MacKinnon said the school had a firm uniform and behaviour policy, offered Latin, Japanese and Russian, and placed a strong emphasis on traditional subjects. It offers the International Baccalaureate as an alternative to A-levels and last month it announced that it wanted to be become the first state school in England to offer the more rigorous International GCSE.

But writing in The Daily Telegraph today, he insisted that ministers maintained "unrealistic expectations" of what schools could achieve – pushing children towards educational "failure".

"There are those who wish to use children and schools as social engineers with a view to creating a different society but we should not even be trying to do such things," he said. "Children need to be nurtured, educated and cared for, not thrown into the frontline of social reform. Muddled thinking is guaranteeing failure for the noble aspirations we all commonly hold for the education of the young."

Mr MacKinnon, who becomes head of fee-paying Bristol Grammar School in September, said there was a "disturbing lack of clarity" about the education system as ministers presided over a "muddle" of different aims. He insisted that good schools had to focus on "learning, achievement and values", but were increasingly being asked to do parents' jobs.

"Teachers simply do not have the contact time to 'create' behaviours and attitudes within children," he said. "They are not – and cannot be – social engineers and social workers and surrogate parents, as well as subject teachers, all rolled into one."

It follows claims this week from Bernice McCabe, the headmistress of the independent North London Collegiate School, that the education system was leading to the "cultural and intellectual impoverishment" of a generation of children as ministers focus on "woolly" goals.
Toddlers who dislike spicy food 'racist'
Posted: 7/8/2008 1:51:41 AM
Ah, yes. I read that one too. Thank you for posting that, Wherefore.
 Last not Least

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Posted: 7/8/2008 5:51:37 AM
If schools were true bastions of actual learning and not social engineering training grounds, maybe Johnny wouldn't have trouble learning to read.
 Rachelle~C

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Posted: 7/8/2008 6:11:55 AM
Your joking right? Racist babies. My God there really are many people out there who literally see racist everywhere , including in babies. People who believe like this are dangerous and should be stopped. They are quite literally insane and belong in an insane asylum.
 *~Krysteene~*

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Posted: 7/8/2008 6:29:10 AM

I cannot be the only one who thinks this is ridiculous.


Nope. It is ridiculous.


Krys
 dwayne88

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Posted: 7/8/2008 6:50:22 AM
I really hope this is all a joke. And it's just sarcasm. Because if it is not. Good Lord!

Not to sound like an ass but if this is true. Does that mean that white people now aren't even going to be allowed to even dislike a certain food without being called a racist?

This is some serious brainwashing.

Can't wait till they start calling smelly farts racist.
 Wookie50

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Posted: 7/8/2008 7:00:23 AM

This could include a child of as young as three who says "yuk" in response to being served unfamiliar foreign food.


In other words that is an assumption about something that hasn't happened.


It advises nursery teachers to be on the alert for childish abuse such as: "blackie", "Pakis", "those people" or "they smell".


That would be racist, wouldn't it?
 Topgear1

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Posted: 7/8/2008 9:02:56 AM
So, if this is all true then one can no longer say racism is a taught trait entirely? Because somone as young as three hasn't the understanding to know what racist means. So effectively racism according to that veiw would mean it's genetic...

If it's genetic then it can hardly be racist it just mean they don't like certain people. Wow, imagine that not liking someone and being labeled a racist because of it...

I think this whole crap is nonsense and the ones behind such ideas are in fact the ones who are nuts...
 pretty moon

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Posted: 7/8/2008 9:08:34 AM
Poppycock........Children just as adults have preferences in food just as we all do certain traits in people. My kids were raised the same.....what one would eat the other would spit out........

What they didnt eat as babies and toddlers they now eat..........

WHAT NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 printer2

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Posted: 7/8/2008 9:27:28 AM
What we really need is a clothing line for toddlers with skinhead and KKK influences. Actually you could probably include soccer club colours considering this comes from Britain.

Next someone will complain that the kids are being harmed by not being able to express their emotions. Nothing is black and white. Oh no, was that last line racist?
 Ezzee

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Posted: 7/8/2008 9:38:32 AM
So, I'm not a big fan of American food. Does that make me racist too?
 dwayne88

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Posted: 7/8/2008 10:30:56 AM

So, I'm not a big fan of American food. Does that make me racist too?


No, it makes you a xenophobe.

Your dislike of my people's food worries me.

I think you should be detained and put in a camp for thinking like that.



*Sarcasm*.
 James_in_SD

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Posted: 7/8/2008 11:10:01 AM
The NCB also advises nursery teachers to be on the alert for attacks of diarrhea in response to eating unfamiliar foreign food, as such attacks are clearly racist.

Incidentally, isn't spicy food bad for toddlers?
 sanderick

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Posted: 7/8/2008 11:15:10 AM
More evidence that Politically Correctness is ruining life for just about everyone on the planet.

 Wherefore Art Thou?

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Posted: 7/8/2008 1:59:44 PM

So, if this is all true then one can no longer say racism is a taught trait entirely? Because somone as young as three hasn't the understanding to know what racist means. So effectively racism according to that veiw would mean it's genetic...

If it's genetic then it can hardly be racist it just mean they don't like certain people. Wow, imagine that not liking someone and being labeled a racist because of it...
No, not exactly. Toddlers repeat what their parents say. That's how they learn about the world. Duh. Hence my point above that these teachers had better also have the skills to manage the p!ssed-off parents who don't like what their kids bring home from the school. I don't dispute the good intention here, but I do wonder about the real-world practicality of it.



Cut-n-Paste is a dangerous thing...
Why is that? Does documentation of a source pertinent to the discussion scare you or something? Does the information to do further research if needed offend you?
 verygreeneyez

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Posted: 7/8/2008 3:24:51 PM
Good grief. I'm about as causasion as it gets, likewise, so is my son. He has LOVED spicy foods since the dawn of time. I don't know where that comes from, but it's fact. Racist ~ oh dear me.
 huukdonfoniks

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Posted: 7/8/2008 3:35:58 PM
A once great nation slides further and further into the multi-culti abyss. I give Blighty 10-15 years before Sharia is instated.

Gone is the Bulldog spirit of days past... Maggie Thatcher had bigger balls than all of today's toads in Parliament combined.
 Wherefore Art Thou?

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Posted: 7/8/2008 6:00:58 PM

This could include a child of as young as three who says "yuk" in response to being served unfamiliar foreign food. ...
...The guide goes on to warn that children might also "react negatively to a culinary tradition other than their own by saying 'yuk'".

Upon closer re-reading of the article in the initial post I caught a small word that didn't first register - "could".

Chances are "an unfamiliar foreign food" isn't going to be served to children as young as three in a daycare or school setting, right?

Using this example as the headline, however, implies or suggests to the casual reader that this situation would be common and the PC police in their jackboots are hovering behind every school cafeteria line, making sure your children and mine keep their natural inclinations bottled-up. Not the case.

While I can appreciate the educators' frustration in being expected to monitor so much in the students' behavior besides academics, I doubt the guidelines are quite as onerous as the headline suggests. Without reading the 366 pages in the document, I can't really offer a well-reasoned opinion. I don't think any of us can.

On the other hand, the following would seem common-sensical for the teacher to address, whether bigoted parents like it or not:
It advises nursery teachers to be on the alert for childish abuse such as: "blackie", "Pakis", "those people" or "they smell".
More and more school districts in the good ol' USA are putting "anti-bullying" curricula in place because mental health experts have shown that many kids who have ended up bringing guns to school and blowing away their aggressors and innocent bystanders have, in fact, been bullied. Call it PC if you like, but educators have been struggling to find ways of preventing in-school violence. Remember what the NRA says: Guns don't kill people! People kill people! We can't have it both ways, folks!

Now, for the burden of solving all these social problems to fall on the shoulders of educators is quite heavy, indeed. But I suspect many who scream about PC rules going too far are probably screaming about teachers' unions, too. [Hello, Rush?]
 Last not Least

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Posted: 7/8/2008 6:48:08 PM
No matter how you dice it, the inmates are running the asylum. The PC nannystate ninnies have pushed for assorted bans and programs of this type for awhile now. As time goes by it has snowballed and gotten more and more ridiculous.
The only thing that really needs to be banned is this idiotic social engineering. Taxpayers are footing the bill for all this sort of thing remember. Do you want to pay for this idiocy?
 17456

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Posted: 7/8/2008 7:40:26 PM
If my child were in a school that attempted this kind of attack on heritage and culturalism I would immediatly remove my child from that environment. To suggest to a toddler that their food preferences are 'bad' or inflict some sense of guilt upon them for expressing an awareness of differences borders on abuse. I would not want my child trained to be a faceless robot.

We all derive a sense of identity from our appearance and our culture and our heritage. It becomes racist when these things become associated with hatred and fear not unlike the fear these people are creating in toddlers who will become fearful of being singled out for not liking certain foods.
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