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President George Bush signed off with a defiant farewell over his refusal to accept global climate change targets at his last G8 summit.

As he prepared to fly out from Japan, he told his fellow leaders: "Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter."

President Bush made the private joke in the summit's closing session, senior sources said yesterday. His remarks were taken as a two-fingered salute from the President from Texas who is wedded to the oil industry. He had given some ground at the summit by saying he would "seriously consider" a 50 per cent cut in carbon emissions by 2050.

©independent.co.uk
By Andrew Grice, Political Editor in Hokkaido
Thursday, 10 July 2008
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/bush-to-g8-goodbye-from-the-worlds-biggest-polluter-863911.html

Funny, except that it's not true anymore. We are NOT the world's largest polluter. China has overtaken us!

Funny, except that it's not true anymore. We are NOT the world's largest polluter. China has overtaken us!

I imagine that a per-capita comparison would restore the title to its rightful owner.

"Mr Bush gave his strongest support for an immediate agreement to his fellow G8 leaders. "We were looking for a signal from Bush and we got one," one British source said. "It's not in the bag but there is now a real push for a deal."

True that America is not the worlds largest polluter. China has over taken us and is on the fast track to distance itself from the U.S. by wider and wider margins.

China will never sign the Koyoto treaty.

India also will not sign. They are also of the belief that Man Made Global Warming is a fallacy. So they won't do anything about it either.

I am also sure that if you take the Indians and Chinese who live in mud huts and include them in the "per capita" that would put their individual population as using less per person.

That STILL does not change the fact that China is much worse and getting even more worse.

The U.S. is bad, but is getting better with each year, without signing any outside agreements.

India, is also getting worse.

The focus should be on the countries that get worse with each year and less on the ones that get better.

Of course, that would make to much sense and the Hate America crowd would never buy that simple logic.

...ah, another 'I hate Bush' thread, replete with the usual suspects. Is there a point to this, other than Bush bashing?
Oh, wait...the usual suspects....no p0int.

"simple logic" would indicate that maybe the worst polluters per capita should make some movement before expecting countries with low standards of living who are attempting to improve it do?

Shirley, you jest! This group IS the Hate America crowd, just read some of the posts.

They passionately love this country but hate the direction it is taking and are willing to speak their discontent rather than accept what is fed to them. They remind me of this country's founding fathers. They are true patriots.

It's worth noting that while western countries are wrestling with the problems and costs of converting their infrastructure to lower emissions technologies, the Chinese and Indians are right now embarked on a huge effort to expand their power plants, factories and transportation networks. If developing countries continue to employ high pollution technologies for the next several decades as they expand their economies, by the time their standard of living exceeds that of the West, they will be equipped with huge, pollution intensive infrastructure that will be prohibitively expensive to convert. Or, at the very least, it will require further decades before it can be converted. Anyway, by the time the Chinese have North American living standards, it will be, according to many climate change activists, too late: irrevocable damage will have been done to the environment. Effective action requires that all parties contribute.

Shirley, you jest! This group IS the Hate America crowd, just read some of the posts.

I don't get the current administration mixed up with the people inside your country or the identity of the State itself. Why do you?

It's worth noting that while western countries are wrestling with the problems and costs of converting their infrastructure to lower emissions technologies, the Chinese and Indians are right now embarked on a huge effort to expand their power plants, factories and transportation networks. If developing countries continue to employ high pollution technologies for the next several decades as they expand their economies, by the time their standard of living exceeds that of the West, they will be equipped with huge, pollution intensive infrastructure that will be prohibitively expensive to convert. Or, at the very least, it will require further decades before it can be converted. Anyway, by the time the Chinese have North American living standards, it will be, according to many climate change activists, too late: irrevocable damage will have been done to the environment. Effective action requires that all parties contribute.

I see it differently. They passionately love this country but hate the direction it is taking and are willing to speak their discontent rather than accept what is fed to them. They remind me of this country's founding fathers. They are true patriots.

"simple logic" would indicate that maybe the worst polluters per capita should make some movement before expecting countries with low standards of living who are attempting to improve it do?