| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 12:25:53 AM | According to POF politics are #5 on the list of topics that men do not want to discuss on a date. Marriage was #10. I've talked about politics with a number of guys and never noticed a problem. Personally, I'd run towards a political debate and away from a marriage discussion. I can certainly see the conversation getting rough if your views are polar opposites but is it really in the top ten worst?
Do you like or dislike talking about politics? If you don't, does it make the top ten least favorite? | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 12:27:23 AM | Lol I think it depends on where the other person stands. If they disagree with my views, it's going to make a horrible first-date topic.  | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 12:44:27 AM | | I like to talk about politics. I know the difference between debate and argument. I just have to make sure the person I am debating these types of topics know the difference as well. I usually won't talk about politics on the first meeting, besides, I am too damn busy trying to figure out who the hell the person is to get into politics or marriage. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 1:10:27 AM | Yes politics are absolutely horrible at present. The New World Order is coming. Who cares which Presidential puppet gets elected this year? Oh to discuss? Go to infowars dot com ! I would think there are better topics to discuss when first meeting someone. | |
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| Talking about politics...
Posted: 7/12/2008 1:24:23 AM | I can learn more about our potential compatibility if we talk about politics and religion than if we talk about the bolded items below:
Women’s Top Ten Favorite Conversation Topics
1. Hopes and aspirations
2. Hobbies/interests in general
3. Music
4. Dreams
5. Romance
6. Friends
7. Travel
8. Vacations
9. Movies
10. Entertainment | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 1:30:28 AM | | Politics is something to talk about via e-mail before there's a date, partly to determine whether there will be a date or not. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 1:43:48 AM | | I don't think it's a bad topic. To me it shows that someone pays attention to the world outside of themselves. I may be conservative. You may be liberal. No reason to not talk about it. Plus it can lead to much deeper levels of conversation. Let you now someone's true values, ethics and morals. Good things to know about each other. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 2:50:54 AM | Politics can end up in a very heated debate, and unlike you, many don't relish debating. I am one of those. I don't need to change someone's mind about where they stand, and I don't want them to change mine.
I am unlike many people, in the fact that I actually do research before I vote for even a local candidate. I read up on the policies of that person, how they voted on items, etc.
Politics and religion...never good date material, except superficially. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 3:49:48 AM | | If a women talked about politics with me I would find it a good thing, I'm not especially interested in that subject, but I think that any deep discussion is good if you want to gel with someone. Anyway, it beats the normal chit chat, what is your favorite colour, do you like spiders type nonsense. Talking about marriage is scary! | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 4:19:57 AM | | I would think you will get a fairly skewed answer here. In general I have the feeling that those of us that participate in the forums are more open to debate, and thus there are probably few topics that would put us out. But I would have to agree with the list that in general politics would be one of the more dicey topics. I was riding on an airplane with a very nice young college student. She mentioned in our conversation that she was leaving the country and would miss out on the elections this year. I said that it was nothing terribly regrettable. She took me to task that it was an historic year when either the first woman or first black candidate would receive the nomination for president. My response was, yes, but neither of them will act like they are either a woman or black in order to get elected. Probably a mistake on my part, because I was showing a cynical side that should have been hidden from someone that had some genuine excitement in a campaign. It was thoughtless of me to dampen her spirits. Fortunately we steered the conversation elsewhere for the balance of the flight. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 5:04:32 AM | Which politics conversation are we talking about?
a) Trade misinformation we heard on TV
b) Project personal prejudice onto the world at large
c) Pose as overlords of political wisdom who see through the lies
d) Reds or Blues at odds
e) Reds or Blues agreeing the enemy is bad
f) Intellectually stunted patriots swelling with pride
g) Idealistic Utopians swelling with fantasies
h) Candidate worship
i) Iconoclasm
j) all of the above | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 9:53:24 AM | | I think politics and religion and all the other important things in one's life SHOULD be discussed at length. Do you really want to date someone who feels very diffferent about things that matter to you? | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 9:59:41 AM | | As I personally couldn't give a damn about politics one way or the other, it would be a definite buzz kill on a date, especially a first one. I'd rather not turn the date into a C-Span discussion as I would rather just try to have some fun. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 3:06:53 PM | I like talking about politics but it is important to know if the person is argueing/preaching or discussing/debating. The discussing/debating is great and I would love to be able to learn a few things on a political subject while on a date, although there are a lot of people who have zero interest in politics at all.
I suggest just asking the person if they are into politics or if they like talking about it. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 4:22:32 PM | | Depends on how flexible the person is on the topic. Personally, if I'm looking to get laid, I'll converse politics and bend my views to accompany hers. If I believe she's stalker material, I'll lean in her ear, and whisper these words as delicately as possible, "I donated twenty thousand dollars to McCain." | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 4:32:37 PM | | i cudnt care about it but its a general list of things from an average ranking, it doesnt mean every single person hates it. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 4:39:19 PM | | I wouldn't mind talking about politics once in a while ( unless a person tries to shoves their viewpoints down my throat ). However I wouldn't want to talk about politics all the time. It's not my favorite topic of discussion. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 5:42:40 PM | | For me, I suppose it all depends. I think have some unique political views, so I don't mind talking about them. I've never been much of a people-watcher, so half the time, I don't know which candidate supports what, but I like talking about the issues as long as everything stays clean. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 5:53:57 PM | If politics was that bad to talk about then why the hell does Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart have jobs?
It's not the subject that's the problem - it's how it's talked about. My guess is that most people don't know how to make politics interesting or funny. Either that or making fun of Bush must be getting old lol. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 5:55:24 PM | If you like to talk about politics, and if you are looking for a long-term relationship, you shouldn't wait too long to have a political discussion. If you clash, or if one of you is dogmatic, or one of you is glib, you want to find out before you waste 3 months.
If I am seriously interested in the woman long-term, I tend to mention a political issue on date 3 or 4 and see how it goes.
I totally avoid politics on date 1. Date 1 is about chemistry and getting to know one another. By dates 3 and 4 you are both past the first date jitters. You are asking deeper questions. The answers will mean something. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 6:03:31 PM | OP,
I don't know where they come up with these lists but I don't mind talking about politics. I do admit I don't have vast knowledge of politics but I wouldn't shy away from the topic I might learn something in the process. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 7:49:23 PM | I have no problem talking politics; in fact, I enjoy it. I think it only becomes a problem when you're dealing with entrenched tribal types who start getting intolerant and personal in their disagreements (as a conservative, I don't much enjoy being called a racist/sexist/homophobe).
We can have different views. We can disagree vehemently. But good people are to be embraced and ***holes are to spurned regardless of who they voted for. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 8:34:31 PM | | I think the reason it's bad is because of the way it can destroy chemistry. In a relationship I think it's healthy to discuss political views and its natural that not everyone is going to agree on everything. On a first date if you hit a spot where things were very different it could easily throw a wrench into what could have been a very good time. That said if you waited until later you could more likely agree to disagree on some topics. Also, I don't think it would be taboo to discuss a recent or upcoming election if it were on the forefront of people's minds. You'd have to be careful of the content. | |
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| Is politics really that bad?
Posted: 7/12/2008 8:38:28 PM | Sir Awesomus Maximus's guide on political discussions:
You're pro choice.
You love the environment.
You care for poor people, even if this is the land of opportunity.
Philanthropy is a must.
Big business is filled with greedy douches with no respect for lower-class citizens.
You volunteer at homeless shelters and make motivational speeches every once in a while.
You are against drilling oil in Alaska.
You hate anything that seems modestly conservative.
Feminism = Awesome. Not really.
You're proud of being in a political party that relies of pop culture icons to bend a minority vote in their favor. True story.
Guns are bad news bears. But they're good for shooting pesky bears.
Animals are awesome. Depending on the animal.
Smacking a mosquito is bad, because you are pro-life, after all.
Soup kitchens are also a great place to pick up women on community service. | |
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