| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 5:29:38 AM | | I have ridden motorcycles and been a passenger. I am no longer going to do so. I've seen and heard too many tragic endings, even with riders who are safe and sane. I would say that about 80% of the profiles I read have men posing with their bikes, something about riding in their titles and a paragraph about riding in the body of the profile. I've stated in mine that I won't ride on one, but don't mind if you do, however many times I've gotten email that says, "Too bad you won't ride or I'd date you." Is it really that important? | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 7:25:28 AM | | It's a craze with older men these days {not just in WA}. I swear I know 6 guys who have had a bike and license for less than a year ... and think it's ok to ask someone to ride with them!!! I feel safe with another friend whose had both since he was a kid, and I enjoy riding with him. No one has the right to insist you ride with them if they don't have enough experience. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 8:32:56 AM | I guess it can be that important since it's happening to you. I would say it's the same deal with men anywhere and motorcycles. Or any interest, for that matter. Some people--men and women--want a partner that shares a particular passion or interest. It's a choice. If you aren't interested in riding on my motorcycle, then I'm not interested in you.
Consider it a good thing. You learned about a potential conflict before it happened. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 9:21:34 AM | Hi Curls22,
Don't feel bad, girlfriend. Count me in as one of the women who will Not get on a motorcycle. (My brother has permanent injuries from a motorcycle wreck.) If a man doesn't want to date us because of THAT, then they are not the kind of man we are seeking anyways... | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 9:25:08 AM | Per vehicle mile you are about 34 times more likely to die on a motorcycle than in a passenger car. Not using your seatbelts in a car only doubles your risk of death. So riding a motorcycle for 10 minutes puts you at the same risk of death as about 3 hours of driving in a passenger car without wearing your seatbelt.
These numbers don't deal with injuries, only death.
It's not just guys, I notice a lot of women list motorcycles in their interests. Much higher numbers than I ever came across outside of pof. Due to high gas prices, expect motorcycles to continue to become even more popular. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 9:27:43 AM | | WOW...yes, of course it can happen to experienced riders too. That must have been devastating, not something I want to experience in any way! As the previous poster stated, not the kind of man you want to date anyway!! Each person has their own 'must haves' in a partner. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 10:11:59 AM | I did do a search on the subject before posting, so not sure why someone is trying to vote this topic deleted for redundancy. I am specifically curious about WA, hence my choice to post it in this particular forum. Sour grapes perhaps? I agree if it's a make or break thing, then it isn't someone I want to date in the first place. I guess I'm pretty open minded and don't put many limits on who I'll date. Also my profile does state I don't care if he rides one.
Anyway, I appreciate the feedback and welcome more of it. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 11:41:56 AM | Motorcycles are the cheapest way to have great performance.
Where else are you going to get to go 0-60 in 4 seconds without paying over
10 thousand dollars? I wouldn't mind having a bike but I'd only ride in the summer
and on fairly light roadways.
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 4:45:31 PM | Bless you abc, but you simply are missing the male psyche here. Mere mortals can ride the bus and go from 0 to 60 in 34 seconds. It is only the male drive that allows us to reduce the required to improving the efficiency of transit from home to say the end of the driveway by a factor of two, whilst increasing the hydrocarbon burn rate by a factor of 10. This is important, this is progress, this is efficiency. The faster we use up fossil fuels, the sooner we will become independent from OPEC!
Even I who was not allowed by my mother to ride a motorcycle, tried to remove the governor on my moped so I could be the stinking light on Clinton Street in Walla Walla on my way to work at the reservoir when I was in college. Dumb thing topped out at 27 instead of 25, so I never did beat it. But I envision myself as still datable for the women of Washington, because even on my moped I wore a helmet, much to the ridicule of my dorm buddies. However, I did crash my moped three times and conked my head on the pavement the third time, so it seemed like a reasonable precaution.
But in general ladies, if you have a need for someone to spend 25 days to figure out the most efficient way to put up an afternoon's worth of gutters on your house, I am one of those capable people. Finite element modeling, snow loads, earthquake resistance, impacts of global warming and solar flares in the presence of a meteor shower could be thrown in at a reduced rate, of course. Just because we can ....
I don't know if there is a particular smiley that indicates sarcasm, shall we go with  or  | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 6:44:43 PM |
But in general ladies, if you have a need for someone to spend 25 days to figure out the most efficient way to put up an afternoon's worth of gutters on your house, I am one of those capable people. Finite element modeling, snow loads, earthquake resistance, impacts of global warming and solar flares in the presence of a meteor shower could be thrown in at a reduced rate, of course. Just because we can
Well, I don't know about anybody else, but that sure excited me!!
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 8:28:42 PM | But in general ladies, if you have a need for someone to spend 25 days to figure out the most efficient way to put up an afternoon's worth of gutters on your house, I am one of those capable people. Finite element modeling, snow loads, earthquake resistance, impacts of global warming and solar flares in the presence of a meteor shower could be thrown in at a reduced rate, of course. Just because we can
Well, I don't know about anybody else, but that sure excited me!!
I didn't get it, still don't get it, and not even sure it was relevant to the conversation. I figured someone would explain it sooner or later. :help: | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 8:42:02 PM |
But in general ladies, if you have a need for someone to spend 25 days to figure out the most efficient way to put up an afternoon's worth of gutters on your house, I am one of those capable people. Finite element modeling, snow loads, earthquake resistance, impacts of global warming and solar flares in the presence of a meteor shower could be thrown in at a reduced rate, of course. Just because we can ....
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 9:50:24 PM | I don't know what the deal is - but I'm not complaining. I find nothing wrong with that mode of transportation. In fact, I quite like being a passenger on a motorcycle with a capable operator. I think it's a sense of freedom...
If the men want to share something with you that they are passionate about (and yes, they can be passionate about riding) then it's better to understand that up front than to learn about it later on.
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/12/2008 10:28:20 PM | Relevance to conversation is always elusive. I've been accused of having relatively obscure references at times. This would qualify.
1.) The overarching question is targeted to the reasonableness of male fascination with the relatively unsafe means of speed thrills in the open air.
2.) My wonderful friend, Ms. abc, pointed out that one could settle for something a bit safer and still get the thrill.
3.) I countered that to limit male innovation is to undermine our substance (that was the "Just because we can ..." reference). Do any of you remember the end of Richard Anderson's narrative at the end of the opening for the Six Million Dollar man? "Gentleman, we can rebuild him ..." Nonsense really. Truly, there would be many 1970s females that would have lost out on the wonderful presence of Lee Majors, but hardly worth 6 million 1970s dollars. Still they could rebuild him, so they [bold]had[/bold] to.
4.) And briefly: in structural engineering, we analyze important structures that have been designed in a complex way - thank you architects - with sophisticated math models called "finite elements". We would analyze them under different loads, snow loads, loads due to their own weight, wind, earthquake etc. Scrutiny is being considered for changes in these traditional loads, because of the increase in the frequency of extreme weather, high winds, increased rainfall and flooding that many attribute to global warming. But considering unreasonable events like a simultaneous solar flare that would likely cause the extreme weather event at the same time that a meteor shower occurs would be foolish. And finally, no engineer would design gutters for 50 times longer than it would take someone to put them up. They wouldn't even design the gutters, because they don't carry any loads, thus, homeowners are on their own.
5.) Sorry for the length and the weird references. It remains the fact - in my mind - that the male thought-process is filled with significant amounts of illogical passions. As even some females have mentioned here, they get it when it comes to motorcycles. I have heard females argue a few times to that the increased health risk for heart attacks when men take Viagra is something they "get" too. Thus, my extreme examples were hints that our illogical passions cannot be discounted, indeed that may be a part of what draws females to us. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/13/2008 3:29:39 AM |
The overarching question is targeted to the reasonableness of male fascination with the relatively unsafe means of speed thrills in the open air.
Perhaps~My original question had more to do with why it knocks me out of contention as a date simply because I won't ride with them.
But thank you for explaining. I do get the reference now. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/13/2008 5:55:08 AM |
My original question had more to do with why it knocks me out of contention as a date simply because I won't ride
Don't take it so personally. It's a choice, my dear, and we all get to make them. It's like smoking. If I smoke, I might not want to date someone who doesn't because of all the challenges. A man who rides might not want to ride alone, so why start a relationship with someone when there is already one passion he will not be able to share with you. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/13/2008 6:49:14 AM | | Didn't think I was taking it personally...merely curious enough to ask around. I honestly didn't expect it to be an issue. Goodness knows there are much more important things to take personally than someone passing me up simply because I'm not willing to climb onto the back of his motorcycle! I'm not a whiner and abhor negativity. I hope my postings reflect this. I appreciate your input AK Transplant. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/13/2008 8:31:36 AM | | Sweetie, there are people out there that will make a mountain out of a mole hill on the silliest things. It's just riding vs. long hair, or like a guy I recently was contacted by...the amount of eye shadow a woman wears. Where I used to live in So Cal, it seemed as if it was more dangerous for bikes down there. They are able to go in between cars on roads and freeways. Freaked me out first time it happend! And I agree that when it comes to gas prices, there are going to be more and more people trying to ride. New riders as well as experienced. And then they may create that mountain out of that molehill again. | |
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/13/2008 8:46:35 AM | Didn't think I was taking it personally...I'm not a whiner and abhor negativity. I hope my postings reflect this.
Good and you are neither a whiner nor one who loves negativity. You're (to all readers: Replace with 'your' if you don't know what a contraction is) a Gemini and you absolutely MUST have two sides. You can't help it.
Fish away, pretty Snohomish lady. I would date you. Alas, I am too far...
But look at it this way: Your home is closer to MY home than mine is.
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| Seriously, what is the deal with men in WA and motorcycles?
Posted: 7/13/2008 9:24:02 AM |
My original question had more to do with why it knocks me out of contention as a date simply because I won't ride with them.
From your profile, curls:
I am not a fan of motorcycles for myself, but if you ride one, it's fine.
I wonder if you were to just delete that statement from your profile, whether you might be more in contention? Sometimes people read more into statements made in dating profiles (or forum postings) -- especially the negatives -- than was originally intended. My theory (although I'm no expert on this), is that profiles that highlight the positives (what you DO like) versus the negatives get a better response because the person appears more glass-half-full. The stuff you DON'T like to do can be hashed out over subsequent e-mails or that first coffee date. Who knows, once they find out how much more you have to offer off the motorcycle, the motorcycle thing may not even be an issue with them any more. | |
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