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 Sardonis
Joined: 9/28/2007
Msg: 1
Why is porn bad for children?Page 1 of 9    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)
I was watching some news show, and one person was saying porn is bad because it is on the internet and children have easy access to it.

And I just thought so what?

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to push porn on anybody's kid. But when I was a kid I saw the occasional porn mag.

Why do people act like kids should never see a naked person or see sex?

Why does it seem like it is more ok for kids to watch some horrorific slasher flick than for kids to watch porn?

Is seeing how they were made so much worse than seeing people get brutally murdered?
 Pamperpooch000
Joined: 11/7/2007
Msg: 2
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 1:45:16 AM
OP I can remember when I was a kid watching a sexual educational film at school, and I swore blind I was never going to have a 'relationship' with anyone. I thought it had put me off for life but I guess I overcame the trauma. I don't think sex should be pushed onto kids until they're ready. I think they associate being murdered as the 'bad guys' doing bad things, but when they see multiple couples romping around on the screen they aren't painted as villains, they're painted as the norm, so maybe it's the association that normal people romp around with different people that could possibly give them a slightly skewed look on sexual relations, or maybe it's just cos if they're anything like I was when I was a kid they'll find it completely Eewwy. Also, the main concern over the whole internet thing is more about kids being lured to meet sexual perverts after stumbling onto some of these sites by accident.
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
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Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 2:11:26 AM
It is a strange dichotomy we have about sex and violence.
In Denmark they rate movies according to the violent content but not the sex.
In the US we rate movies just the opposite.
A movie has to be over-the-top violent before we think twice about letting small children see it. We allow children to play very violent video games. Yet, with even the most mild pornography, we recoil in horror that a minor should glance at it.

We have a rather dumb, Spartan like attitude, in that exposing children to violence somehow builds character while exposure to sexuality brings weakness.
 Pamperpooch000
Joined: 11/7/2007
Msg: 4
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 2:53:13 AM
We have a rather dumb, Spartan like attitude, in that exposing children to violence somehow builds character while exposure to sexuality brings weakness.


I don't think it's so much that exposure to sexuality brings weakness, more that it can possibly make people (boys more specifically) see people as meat rather than human. Most pornography (not all) is geared to appeal to guys as in the general domination and animalistic use of women i.e male power (not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with a bit of animalistic, but it could possibly skew a boys general perception about women, and it could possibly skew a girls perception about how she should be treated sexually and in general). Of course I'm no expert, in fact it's not something I've ever really stopped to think about, but I can see the difference because it is seen as accepted, whereas crime is seen as wrong and evil. Some boys do aspire to the bad guys, but they're still more likely to realise that it's not a path that they should specifically follow whereas with pornography it's a little different.
 DerKunstler
Joined: 7/28/2008
Msg: 5
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 2:55:58 AM
My dad gave me my first porn mag when i was 8 or 9 ! I thought it was funny :P
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 8/6/2008 3:33:23 AM
If you just flick through a porn mag maybe once or twice, that isn't a problem. There is no attachment. The real issue only occurs is when you get turned on by the porn, and especially if you jack off to it. Then your subconscious relates getting turned on to the porn, and the next time you see the porn, you get turned on, but when you see women, they aren't porn, so your body doesn't get turned on. Keep watching porn, and some men get to a point where they don't get aroused by their partner unless they are watching porn at the same time.

Also, even if you aren't aroused by the porn, but the images are around you regularly, then you just get used to the images in a porn mag as examples of sexuality. You then act out those images, and so your sex life can end up more like a porn film, and that would be very, very difficult for a loving relationship.

I don't want to mention names, but there is a very famous female celebrity in the UK, who has had a history of being unable to establish intimacy in relationships, with a string of failed marriages behind her, and a massive sex addiction, that left her very unhappy, very unfulfilled and very, very empty. She went to see a sex therapy clinic and they discovered that it worked all the way back to porn she saw as a kid, because her dad had a lot of very explicit pictures that he left around the house. She showed the clinic process on TV to help people better understand her behaviour, which was all over the press, and to help others with sexual addictions.

There are 2 other problems that make life very difficult for children who watch porn.

Sexuality is most often set by our initial experiences. So if your first sexual experience is straight, gay, paedophilic, bestial, or any other, even if it is not complete sex, even if it happens as a child or a baby, that seems to have a much stronger hold over the sexual desires we have for the rest of our lives than almost anything else.

The other issue is that porn doesn't work like other forms of sex. According to modern sexual therapists, the quickest and most effective way to get over sexual addictions and sexual dysfunctions is to simply give up sex for a year. However, psychologists have done brain scans that shoed that images of porn don't go away even over time, and remain etched in the brain. So you can engage in orgies, or bestiality, or other types of sex, but if you give it up, then the more time that passes, the less you seem to crave it. So you remain preferring porn to other forms of sex, and so other types of sex just fall by the wayside, only leaving those people with porn and little else.

So when children view porn regularly and/or get aroused by that porn, it is a bit like injecting a baby with heroin. The desire for porn becomes your greatest sexual desire, and it doesn't lessen over time, but it becomes the only form of sex you are interested in.

You can get over it, but it is a big problem currently with a lot of young men who prefer porn to sex, and they just don't seem to be able to have a loving relationship as a result.
 Pamperpooch000
Joined: 11/7/2007
Msg: 7
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 3:53:16 AM
Thanks for that Scorpiopower. I didn't realise the true significance, I was just guessing, but what you say makes sense to me.
 Vancer
Joined: 10/29/2006
Msg: 8
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 4:54:44 AM
What age of child are we talking about?
Because most children who haven't reached a certain stage of biological development are going to find porn pretty uncomforting.
 Sanguis Dominus
Joined: 3/9/2008
Msg: 9
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 5:28:30 AM
"Some boys do aspire to the bad guys"

That'd be me. I idolise people like Sephiroth, Darth Vader and Sauron.

Either way, exposing kids to porn is just like preparing them for peados. Generally a bad idea.
 Sardonis
Joined: 9/28/2007
Msg: 10
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 9:45:32 AM

but it could possibly skew a boys general perception about women, and it could possibly skew a girls perception about how she should be treated sexually and in general).


While that is a compelling argument, I think the whole "Sex is bad for children to see" mentality predates that logic.

When I go out in the world, I see plenty of women sexually objectifying themselves.

And there is the whole "Nice Guy" phenomenom of guys not busting moves because they want to be respectful and then the girl thinks he is a wimp and/or thinks there is something wrong with her.

Also if a woman does not think she is anything more than sex, that is not my fault nor my problem.
 magpiesmn
Joined: 4/26/2006
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Posted: 8/6/2008 9:55:31 AM
IMO children should be shown only what they ask for... I have yet to have a kid ask me if they could watch porn... Not that im around a ton of kids but its just not something the kid says. Heck porn is just plain bad for everyone imo so its obv bad for children too... Also just because you might have been able to handle porn at an early age does not mean every other kid can so dont tell me you now want every kid in the world to know what porn is?
 Sardonis
Joined: 9/28/2007
Msg: 12
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 10:08:46 AM
The real issue only occurs is when you get turned on by the porn, and especially if you jack off to it. Then your subconscious relates getting turned on to the porn, and the next time you see the porn, you get turned on, but when you see women, they aren't porn, so your body doesn't get turned on.


I am speaking for myself and I think I speak for most guys, that this is not a problem.


You can get over it, but it is a big problem currently with a lot of young men who prefer porn to sex, and they just don't seem to be able to have a loving relationship as a result.


A lot of men may prefer to look at porn and whack off rather than deal the headaches of trying to get in a relationship with women. But I guarantee if they felt they had a choice in the matter to have sex with a real live girl rather than beat off to a porn mag, they would choose sex.

And guys are not alone, a lot of women prefer to stay home with their books and their BOBs rather than deal with the headaches of trying to get in a relationship with men. Did porn turn them off too?

I don't think porn is the problem with people not finding good loving relationships. I think there are just a lot of selfish, immature people who take people for granted and then others who expect more than they can offer.

But I am just talking about this idea that sex is considered a taboo thing in our society. We are more comfortable with graphic violence than sexually explicit images.

Nipoleon gets it.
 Sardonis
Joined: 9/28/2007
Msg: 13
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 10:13:16 AM

IMO children should be shown only what they ask for... I have yet to have a kid ask me if they could watch porn...


Why would a child ask an adult to watch porn, when a child knows that it is "bad" to do so?


so dont tell me you now want every kid in the world to know what porn is


Can you not read? 3rd sentence in my Opening Post reads: "Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to push porn on anybody's kid."
 NERO1
Joined: 3/8/2008
Msg: 14
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 10:25:23 AM
EDITED BY USER .
 Pamperpooch000
Joined: 11/7/2007
Msg: 15
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 10:51:58 AM

While that is a compelling argument, I think the whole "Sex is bad for children to see" mentality predates that logic.

When I go out in the world, I see plenty of women sexually objectifying themselves.

And there is the whole "Nice Guy" phenomenom of guys not busting moves because they want to be respectful and then the girl thinks he is a wimp and/or thinks there is something wrong with her.

Also if a woman does not think she is anything more than sex, that is not my fault nor my problem.


If this is your steadfast belief op, why did you feel the need to ask for the opinions of others? You ask, therefore you receive, whether you chose to take notice or not is your prerogative, but the wisest people of all are those who ask questions in order to get and take into consideration general answers IMO.
 INTOART
Joined: 3/12/2008
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Posted: 8/6/2008 10:54:37 AM
The only people who could concievably be harmed in any way by porn are those who act in it (and they get paid.)
 Dr. Gazebo
Joined: 3/24/2008
Msg: 17
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 3:57:54 PM
Lets just let things be as they are. SEX IS BAD!!!!!
Teach your kids to hate their bodies!

Booyah!
 Paumanok
Joined: 6/15/2008
Msg: 18
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Posted: 8/6/2008 4:25:26 PM
Porn is bad for children because they are short and should not have to know what lurks at eye level behind the clothes their parents are wearing.
 M_clud
Joined: 5/27/2008
Msg: 19
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 7:36:41 PM

If you just flick through a porn mag maybe once or twice, that isn't a problem. Blah blah blah, arse arse arse...
<---scorpiomover

Wha a crock of sh*it scorpiomover. Do you have no understanding of your own sexuality? Men get turned on by porn because it shows.... (big surprise) naked female bodies!! Men are turned on by naked female bodies. Is this news to you?

I admit porn alone cannot satisfy a man's desires. It is empty and unfulfilling. in the end a man needs a woman to love, and to bring sexual gratification. But is a woman available, or even the possibility of a woman, or a long term relationship at age 12 when you start getting wet dreams? No. Don't lie to me scorpiomover.

Does that mean that a man's biology should be repressed until he somehow falls into a relationship (arranged by his parents maybe)? No!

Contrary to what you say, if a man is surrounded by sensual images regularly, he will become DESENSITISED to them. They will not mean anything at all.
As far as children go, i can remember jacking off to smuggled porn magazines in a "christian" housold as long as I knew what a bonor was. That doesn't mean I think of women as mere objects to this day, quite the opposite, the body just sometimes gets ahead of the mind. It's not ours to know the where or why, only do or die. Quit trying to fit the human biology into your cozy little world view, and instead expand your undertanding to include human nature as it really is.

As for your fifth and sixth paragraph, just let me say you are %100 wrong. A man will gravitate to whatever is in his understanding and desire to gravitate towards. Pornography becomes a dim flicker in the background as a man matures, watching mere images of female bodies doesn't mean anything at all. A man will eventually need real reconcilation with the female person, provided he hasn't turned out gay or some other form of sexuality. Don't even ask me to comment there.


So when children view porn regularly and/or get aroused by that porn, it is a bit like injecting a baby with heroin. The desire for porn becomes your greatest sexual desire, and it doesn't lessen over time, but it becomes the only form of sex you are interested in.
<---------scorpiomover

Wrong again, porn has limited appeal, but a very real appeal for a blossoming young male sexuality, which is active long before the possibility of a real woman.
 FriendlyIntense
Joined: 8/20/2007
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Posted: 8/6/2008 8:10:59 PM
The porn you saw as a kid is no longer considered porn. It is constantly being refined into more and more powerful forms that more closely resemble crack than straight cocaine. There is a very insightful, easy-to-read, section in "The Brain that Changes Itself" that discusses solid research on how porn affects the brain -- causing one to become addicted and, ironically, needing less and less of the actual porn and more of the SEARCH/CHASE for it. In other words, people eventually get aroused simply chasing after more and more powerful forms of porn.... with less emphasis on actually getting it.

To allow this to happen to a child's brain when it's in it's earliest formatory stages is both a travesty and a crime.
 M_clud
Joined: 5/27/2008
Msg: 21
Why is porn bad for children?
Posted: 8/6/2008 8:31:41 PM

The porn you saw as a kid is no longer considered porn. It is constantly being refined into more and more powerful forms that more closely resemble crack than straight cocaine. There is a very insightful, easy-to-read, section in "The Brain that Changes Itself" that discusses solid research on how porn affects the brain -- causing one to become addicted and, ironically, needing less and less of the actual porn and more of the SEARCH/CHASE for it. In other words, people eventually get aroused simply chasing after more and more powerful forms of porn.... with less emphasis on actually getting it.

To allow this to happen to a child's brain when it's in it's earliest formatory stages is both a travesty and a crime.


What a bunch of bullsh*it. Men seek fulfillment with women. What do you think porn leads to? Rape? Torture? Abuse? I dare you to come right out and say it. I doubt you have any experience with an actually addictive substance. You are talking out your arsehole. Men have a desire built in them. It will express itself in one way or another. The more holes you try to plug the more places it will spring forth. It's nigh time everyone just came to terms with their sexuality without conviction.
 Vancer
Joined: 10/29/2006
Msg: 22
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Posted: 8/6/2008 8:37:05 PM
It's more than likely the same reason why children shouldn't be given unrestricted access to what they can eat.
Sexual arousal releases chemicals into the system, and easy access to sexual stimulus, plus the nature of long term diminishing returns in stimulant indulgence, can lead to addictive behavioural patterns.
 M_clud
Joined: 5/27/2008
Msg: 23
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Posted: 8/6/2008 8:43:57 PM
I guess we should all just plug ourselves into the machine and let someone else look out for what's best for us. Seeing as that's worked so good in the past.

Forget about freedom, let's have control already.
 Vancer
Joined: 10/29/2006
Msg: 24
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Posted: 8/6/2008 8:52:28 PM
M_clud, I'm not on the side of denying anyone knowledge or understanding of sex at any age. But unrestricted access to that type of thing is not good at a young age.
Just look up information on 'process addictions' and how they alter the brain over time.
 DietCoke┬«Guy
Joined: 3/13/2005
Msg: 25
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Posted: 8/6/2008 9:19:52 PM

The real issue only occurs is when you get turned on by the porn, and especially if you jack off to it. Then your subconscious relates getting turned on to the porn, and the next time you see the porn, you get turned on, but when you see women, they aren't porn, so your body doesn't get turned on. Keep watching porn, and some men get to a point where they don't get aroused by their partner unless they are watching porn at the same time.

I think that some men might be affected that way, but my guess would be it is a pretty small percentage. That is like banning alcohol because some people can't handle it. I think I read my first porn mag (and almost certainly jacked off to it) in my very early teens. In the ensuing 30 years or so, I have continued to occasionally peruse porn and get turned on by it, but if there is a willing woman around, the porn holds very little interest to me.

I think Jack Handy had it right when he said:
"I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children's children, because I don't think children should be having sex.
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